How do i counter Longbowmen with Mongols

[BlazeXI]

(early game and mid game)

[MisterSmellies]

Great question. Probably just have to bunker down and try to boom and hit castle then kill them with mangonels/archers made using improved seige engineering. Go silver tree on ovoo for trade boom/ to help reach castle quicker. If you want maybe harass them in dark age with 4 2x scouts or so.

[Cacomistle]

Spam more archers than they have longbow and/or go to castle age. I have no idea why they nerfed horsemen (who already weren't that great counter vs longbow).

[BlazeXI]

Originally posted by Cacomistle:

Spam more archers than they have longbow and/or go to castle age. I have no idea why they nerfed horsemen (who already weren't that great counter vs longbow).

yea, and everyone who said mongol is op in early just missed the part that they can build towers lol

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by BlazeXI:

Originally posted by Cacomistle:

Spam more archers than they have longbow and/or go to castle age. I have no idea why they nerfed horsemen (who already weren't that great counter vs longbow).

yea, and everyone who said mongol is op in early just missed the part that they can build towers lol

No they didn't. Watch for example the genesis finals. Mists built defensive towers against vipers tower rush, managed to keep conteol of his gold. Still lost. In fact people spammed towers that whole tournament across matchups.

I don't think mongols tower rush English in the first place, its considered good for mongols because like all other matchups they spam more units with +15% speed.

[Harris]

As English main, I love Mongols. First of all, raiding English is out of question. Khan will be sniped by vills, and I am not even joking. Mangudai will be decimated by longbows due to superior range.

The answer is just let the game reach imperial - English units fall off by then, longbows are useless (assuming you built something good like a lancer blob, ofc). English economy is trivial outside of Enclosures, which only kicks in imperial - you'll be able to outboom it with all those boni to trade and the ability to build double vills or double traders with stone. Then just amass bombards and lancers and wipe English from the map.

If they rush you early, they're already not on the strong foot - they won't have Network to benefit from, and they'll surely bring infantry along with their rams - longbows and m@a or maybe spears since you're Mongol. So plan accordingly. Worst case scenario, you should be able to relocate your most important assets.

But really, this is no rocket science. English only get a single power spike in feudal because of the ability to vomit longbowmen. Once you survive that they become trivial to deal with.

[Subtle Butt ( >ω<)っ ♡]

For mongols this is actually defensive matchup. You secure your resources with outpost then go into castle with MAA, Mangonel, Springald. You build siege weapons with the MAA after improved siege engineering.