Delhi Sultanate shouldn't be muslim

[M1A2C Abrams]

Unlike the Abassids who were majority Muslim the Delhi Sultanate was a minority Muslim but majority Hindu. Considering how big of a nerf it is to not have access to boars it would be a good way to buff a weak civilization by allowing them access to boars.

[Narcissistic Cannibal]

Literally the first line from Wikipedia: "The Delhi Sultanate was an Islamic empire based in Delhi that stretched over large parts of the Indian subcontinent for 320 years".

[Cacomistle]

I don't really know much about the history or religion so I won't get into whether it makes sense from that perspective (my minimal understanding though is that it does). But from a gameplay perspective its a buff not a nerf.

The thing is, they get a bonus to berries to compensate. The 25% bonus to berries and +100% resources on berries is better than having access to boar.

If they're in the game position to safely take boars they're in the game position to take sacred sites anyways and delhi does not need a buff when they've got access to sacred sites. So it would only help them in games they're already winning.

[Thunder]

I have never farmed a boar but I have farmed berries (they are usually near your town center). Their berry buff seem sufficient if not more useful.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Cannibal:

Literally the first line from Wikipedia: "The Delhi Sultanate was an Islamic empire based in Delhi that stretched over large parts of the Indian subcontinent for 320 years".

You don't understand. Most muslim states didn't force people to convert so you had muslims rulers over a majority population of another religion. That is why groups in the Balkans, Iberia and India existed with large Christian and Jewish groups.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by Narcissistic Cannibal:

Literally the first line from Wikipedia: "The Delhi Sultanate was an Islamic empire based in Delhi that stretched over large parts of the Indian subcontinent for 320 years".

You don't understand. Most muslim states didn't force people to convert so you had muslims rulers over a majority population of another religion. That is why groups in the Balkans, Iberia and India existed with large Christian and Jewish groups.

And it is the rulers who make/enforce the laws.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by lynpinette:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

You don't understand. Most muslim states didn't force people to convert so you had muslims rulers over a majority population of another religion. That is why groups in the Balkans, Iberia and India existed with large Christian and Jewish groups.

And it is the rulers who make/enforce the laws.

They wouldn't force non-muslims to not eat pork. The only people who would historically be the imam and elite military forces.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by lynpinette:

And it is the rulers who make/enforce the laws.

They wouldn't force non-muslims to not eat pork. The only people who would historically be the imam and elite military forces.

Okay I will take your word for it, as obviously me (and you) can not ask them. Current/recent muslims ruling in areas of the world definitely do not force non-muslims to obey their laws.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by lynpinette:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

They wouldn't force non-muslims to not eat pork. The only people who would historically be the imam and elite military forces.

Okay I will take your word for it, as obviously me (and you) can not ask them.

Muslim countries had mameluke slave soldiers equivalent to knights which would be muslims and a imam is a muslim priest.

[Cpl. Burden R 3294]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Cannibal:

Literally the first line from Wikipedia: "The Delhi Sultanate was an Islamic empire based in Delhi that stretched over large parts of the Indian subcontinent for 320 years".

You're right. I am afraid the OP is a known troll. Goes by many names, and does the same thing no matter what game forum they are in; posts ridiculous counter-factual statements, waits for people to correct them. If they never do, or even agree with their insanity, they move on. If they bite, they start posting more counter-factual garbage (for example "having the Delhi Sultanate as Muslims would make as much sense as having the Teutons as Germans, because we all know they were actually....." insert something insane.

And so the cycle continues.

Or if you want a "fun" (I use the word quite wrongly) experiment, ask them what tank their profile picture is.

[Harris]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

You don't understand. Most muslim states didn't force people to convert so you had muslims rulers over a majority population of another religion.

Didn't force per se, yet they had other methods to incentivize conversion, namely taxation and career opportunities. And in case with Islam, it is as much a code of laws the state lives by as it is a religion.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Cpl. Burden R 3294:

Originally posted by Narcissistic Cannibal:

Literally the first line from Wikipedia: "The Delhi Sultanate was an Islamic empire based in Delhi that stretched over large parts of the Indian subcontinent for 320 years".

You're right. I am afraid the OP is a known troll. Goes by many names, and does the same thing no matter what game forum they are in; posts ridiculous counter-factual statements, waits for people to correct them. If they never do, or even agree with their insanity, they move on. If they bite, they start posting more counter-factual garbage (for example "having the Delhi Sultanate as Muslims would make as much sense as having the Teutons as Germans, because we all know they were actually....." insert something insane.

And so the cycle continues.

Or if you want a "fun" (I use the word quite wrongly) experiment, ask them what tank their profile picture is.

Why are you posting on this forum when you don't even play AOE4?

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Harris:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

You don't understand. Most muslim states didn't force people to convert so you had muslims rulers over a majority population of another religion.

Didn't force per se, yet they had other methods to incentivize conversion, namely taxation and career opportunities. And in case with Islam, it is as much a code of laws the state lives by as it is a religion.

Well even if they did in the case of the Delhi Sultanate they were majority Hindu and Hindus eat pork.

[Cpl. Burden R 3294]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Why are you posting on this forum when you don't even play AOE4?

You don't get to tell me to stop :)

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by Harris:

Didn't force per se, yet they had other methods to incentivize conversion, namely taxation and career opportunities. And in case with Islam, it is as much a code of laws the state lives by as it is a religion.

Well even if they did in the case of the Delhi Sultanate they were majority Hindu and Hindus eat pork.

See? This is what he does. Did it with his "Graufuchs" account too. And "Teen Male Succubus" and various weird anime usernames that got banned.

[Harris]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Well even if they did in the case of the Delhi Sultanate they were majority Hindu and Hindus eat pork.

Please re-read what I posted. Islam was its state religion. Whatever the majoriy one was is irrelevant in this case.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Cpl. Burden R 3294:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Why are you posting on this forum when you don't even play AOE4?

You don't get to tell me to stop :)

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Well even if they did in the case of the Delhi Sultanate they were majority Hindu and Hindus eat pork.

See? This is what he does. Did it with his "Graufuchs" account too. And "Teen Male Succubus" and various weird anime usernames that got banned.

A succubus is a female demon so a male would be an incubus.