引用自 FilthySouls：

I'm sorry Devs, but looks like I'll have to unfollow & remove it from wishlist. I was looking forward to deckbuilding or at least turn-based combat in a dark fantasy world. If I want a good fantasy open world rpg - I'll just go back to The Witcher 3. Good luck, but it should't come as a surprise when/if many people lose interest now.

There is actually a different TG game that is a rogue lite deck builder.

It is great that we are getting two new games! That being said, I'm really sad that it is coming at the cost of the digital game Kickstarter backers were promised. I have very limited table space for the physical game and have been looking forward to the digital version for this reason. So yay RPG, but boo to cutting the digital version of the tabletop.

引用自 Death_By_Cupcakes：

It is great that we are getting two new games! That being said, I'm really sad that it is coming at the cost of the digital game Kickstarter backers were promised. I have very limited table space for the physical game and have been looking forward to the digital version for this reason. So yay RPG, but boo to cutting the digital version of the tabletop.

They never promised a digital port of the board game, they always said it would be an adaptation. to Quote the update:

Tainted Grail will go digital (PC)! Not as a simple board game port, but a totally new experience crafted from the grounds up for the digital medium.

They never said it would even feature the same story. The early plans previewed in the demos was using the boardgames premise and characters, but lead you down different routes in order to not spoil the board game, so it was never meant as a boardgame replacement, but rather an extension.

Link for reference:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/awakenrealms/tainted-grail-the-fall-of-avalon/posts/2375160

引用自 daemonnnn：

wtf this is a complete pivot! It looks great but this is not the game I wanted! Like at all! I loved the preview campaign you guys had made ages ago before conquest was even a thing. This is literally a whole different new game from that. It kills me to see that the original Tainted Grail is completely left in the dust, which we'd been promised wouldn't be the case. This is nothing like that and I am extremely bewildered by the complete pivot and redesign. Even the core design structure is different!

Uh the game you are currently playing is 100% different form the original game that we thought we were getting. I don't understand your issues. Many of us wanted a real campaign just like the BG but we didn't get that either.

引用自 Thomy013：

They never promised a digital port of the board game, they always said it would be an adaptation.

I think it could have been clearer in the Kickstarter. After all, there was a pledge for the digital on the original Kickstarter: "One Steam Code for Digital edition of Tainted Grail for PC" and in the very update you are quoting it said a lot of the writing would be used in the digital campaign. But now it sounds like the entire storyline from the campaign will not be used.

So while I agree it wasn't promised to be an exact port, I thought it'd be a lot closer to the tabletop game than what it sounds like it will be. And again, I'm excited for the game, just surprised at how different the final game is from what I was picturing based off the early descriptions.

引用自 Death_By_Cupcakes：

引用自 Thomy013：

They never promised a digital port of the board game, they always said it would be an adaptation.

I think it could have been clearer in the Kickstarter. After all, there was a pledge for the digital on the original Kickstarter: "One Steam Code for Digital edition of Tainted Grail for PC" and in the very update you are quoting it said a lot of the writing would be used in the digital campaign. But now it sounds like the entire storyline from the campaign will not be used.

So while I agree it wasn't promised to be an exact port, I thought it'd be a lot closer to the tabletop game than what it sounds like it will be. And again, I'm excited for the game, just surprised at how different the final game is from what I was picturing based off the early descriptions.

I agree, the early demos set a lot of expactations. But it not following the same story does not mean it wont use original parts of the writing. Even Conquest has a lot of passages that are directly taken from the boardgames, mostly narrative about location descriptions and a few dialogs.
But yeah, the total design change was a surprise :D lets see how it turns out :) and with it being even further from the board game, an actual boardgame port coming one day might not be too impossible 🤷‍♂️

This decision is absolutely out of the blue; i don't have anything against dark fantasy, but why this sudden change of direction? Good long carg games are far and between... Sad.

Your turning this first person? is it now an ARPG, is there a plan for gamepad support, wtf is this... this isn't anything like the game that came before.

Hey, this works for me. An open world full RPG Dark Arthurian fantasy game, hell yes.....SO LONG as you keep that original spooky dark fantasy feeling that the original deck building version of the game had, then ill be a happy camper. So PLEASE, don't try and make this a skyrim clone, We've ALL had enough of that. Keep that mysterious, dark fantasy twist thing going on that you guys started with, THAT is what drew me to this game and that is what has had me so looking forward to more. Ill tell you straight up, DO THAT, and I have ZERO issues with the STYLE changing from a deck builder to a first person RPG and i will FOR SURE buy what you release and support you. Weather the game is a deck builder, a first person RPG or a 3rd person action doesn't really matter a whole to me, although id much rather see it being some sort of 3rd person game, be it top down or over the shoulder rather then a 1st person. But what DOES matter the most in my opinion is the style and feeling of the original vision that made this game different then most other games. So please, keep that intact and i for one will be a fan.

yes can you please explain the decision behind this change, i know you don't have to explain anything, but it would really help.

I loved conquest, didn't expect to but gave it a shot and was damned impressed. I was very meh on the original design for Fall of Avalon but was blown away by the new design. Excellent trailer btw.
A Dark Arthurian Bethesda style RPG in the grim, warped world of Tainted Grail has me very excited.
You all did incredible work on Conquest but this is a whole new level. I have faith but be wary of biting more than you can chew. Go deep rather wide, consolidate and maximise a rich smaller world teeming with choices and possibilities rather a vast shallow expanse.
Fairly certain I qualify for the 2 for 1 deal but if not then the goodwill from Conquest has earned my support.

For the love of King Arthur please include third person! Character Customisation and First person are nipples on a bloke. It's a thing, sure but meaningless.

Lots of hard and stressful days are ahead of you all but also I hope plenty of satisfying and triumphant ones.

Best of Luck, may the Menhirs protect you.

I bought the game last year because i liked the idea to play a deckbuilding card game with the option to choose a story or a rouge-like campaign.
I really liked the story campaign and i was hoping to continue this campaign to find out more of the backstory of the two heroes.
Now the devs make the decision to change the game into another mainstream open world game and canceled the story-driven campaign game.
I´m sad about this because i´ve played enough skyrim- and rogue-like games and i will now refund both games.

引用自 Takenchi：

I bought the game last year because i liked the idea to play a deckbuilding card game with the option to choose a story or a rouge-like campaign.
I really liked the story campaign and i was hoping to continue this campaign to find out more of the backstory of the two heroes.
Now the devs make the decision to change the game into another mainstream open world game and canceled the story-driven campaign game.
I´m sad about this because i´ve played enough skyrim- and rogue-like games and i will now refund both games.

The story driven campaign game is not cancelled, its just redesigned :)

引用自 Thomy013：

引用自 Takenchi：

I bought the game last year because i liked the idea to play a deckbuilding card game with the option to choose a story or a rouge-like campaign.
I really liked the story campaign and i was hoping to continue this campaign to find out more of the backstory of the two heroes.
Now the devs make the decision to change the game into another mainstream open world game and canceled the story-driven campaign game.
I´m sad about this because i´ve played enough skyrim- and rogue-like games and i will now refund both games.

The story driven campaign game is not cancelled, its just redesigned :)

What I think he's saying is he hates the redesign and now no longer wants the games because of the redesign.

is this means character creation and build/deck customization like what conquest have?
if so then this is indeed great news