Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

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Soo what enginge does the game use? I will probably find that out sooner than I think I believe, also what good PC's that are more than enough are out there.?

I feel like it's probably not these 8.000 - 10.000€/$ PC's that you need to have a few years fun.

I will be excited to see my PC Die during the demo potentially, could also be that the parts just got weak. I have no better way to describe it but somewhere heard read or whatever, PC can behave that way too if the parts that would be normally enough are just not new and working well anymore.
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Trippie May 27 @ 12:58pm 
Its Unity, and unfortunately there's performance issues because of that, but not nearly as much as some people are saying.

My 5yo PC can run it on a radeon 5600xt
Last edited by Trippie; May 27 @ 12:59pm
there are suggested and minimum requirements on the store page
my pc is multiple years old and runs fine

other then that: what are you on about?
Texus May 27 @ 1:12pm 
Sorry can't concentrate to well tonight and got distracted, a friends birthdays, allergie, lack of sleep yep everything today in one way or another.

I can call my PC old now I suppose but usually it's Ultra enginge or what it was called that makes all the noise which I don't enjoy to much. Then there are some chases like Sonic Forces wich I don't remember if I tried it on PC or Laptop. Usually much works it is just noisy sometimes and I want to buy a new one at some point, I just have to figure out how much money I am supposed to pay for something good if I really start noticing bad performance.

Otherwies those were just many words to say I don't see myself as a PC bugg and assume many really expensive PC's might have a ton of extras you don't really need.
Originally posted by Trippie:
Its Unity, and unfortunately there's performance issues because of that, but not nearly as much as some people are saying.

My 5yo PC can run it on a radeon 5600xt


The issue is that people these days consider anything lower than a constant 120 fps as "bad performance".

60 FPS is enough for enjoyable gameplay. The game does have some optimization issues, the devs admitted that themselves - as they weren't experts in Unity Engine. They are working on that.

But it is by no means unplayable, like Oblivion Remastered is if you don't have god-tier hardware.

PS. If you have an AMD card capable of it - enable AFMF 2.0 Frame Gen - I have noticed 0 artifacts in game as a result.
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Trippie May 27 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by MonkInsane:
The issue is that people these days consider anything lower than a constant 120 fps as "bad performance".

60 FPS is more than enough for enjoyable gameplay. The game does have some optimization issues, the devs admitted that themselves - as they weren't experts in Unity Engine. They are working on that.

But it is by no means unplayable, like Oblivion Remastered is if you don't have god-tier hardware.

When I say my 5yo PC can run it, its on lowest settings, with 720p resolution scaled up by AMD adrenaline settings, and I get some mild stutters when like 7 enemies are on screen doing particle effects. locked at 60fps
Originally posted by Trippie:
Originally posted by MonkInsane:
The issue is that people these days consider anything lower than a constant 120 fps as "bad performance".

60 FPS is more than enough for enjoyable gameplay. The game does have some optimization issues, the devs admitted that themselves - as they weren't experts in Unity Engine. They are working on that.

But it is by no means unplayable, like Oblivion Remastered is if you don't have god-tier hardware.

When I say my 5yo PC can run it, its on lowest settings, with 720p resolution scaled up by AMD adrenaline settings, and I get some mild stutters when like 7 enemies are on screen doing particle effects. locked at 60fps

What HW do you actually have? Can your AMD card utilize Fluid Motion Frames?

I'm running on 1440p, no upscaling @ between 70 - 90 FPS (140 - 180 FPS with Framegen) on a R7 5800 XT + RX 7800 XT
Trippie May 27 @ 1:28pm 
32gb ram, amd 3700x 8-core processor, amd radeon 5600 xt graphics card
Trippie May 27 @ 1:36pm 
worst part is im not very PC savvy, so i dont know what graphics card that i should upgrade to thats going to last me the next 5 years qwq
Texus May 27 @ 1:37pm 
PS. If you have an AMD card capable of it - enable AFMF 2.0 Frame Gen - I have noticed 0 artifacts in game as a result.
I have an idea where to start looking at least, but for example my first reaction is okay what is it and what do I have.
Do you have any hompages or discord or whatever you like to visit for this stuff?, I just want to know about this stuff a bit better, feels like others had more to do with PC stuff than me growing up.

I really sleep before trying to look deeper into it, but I'm happy for everything you think I might want to look into.
Originally posted by Trippie:
32gb ram, amd 3700x 8-core processor, amd radeon 5600 xt graphics card

Also is it installed on a SSD or HDD?

Originally posted by Texus:
PS. If you have an AMD card capable of it - enable AFMF 2.0 Frame Gen - I have noticed 0 artifacts in game as a result.
I have an idea where to start looking at least, but for example my first reaction is okay what is it and what do I have.
Do you have any hompages or discord or whatever you like to visit for this stuff?, I just want to know about this stuff a bit better, feels like others had more to do with PC stuff than me growing up.

I really sleep before trying to look deeper into it, but I'm happy for everything you think I might want to look into.


AFMF only supported from 5700 XT and upwards. You could try Lossless Scaling (Available on Steam) for framegen for better FPS. Mileage may vary, I've found it laggy in the games I tested it on - but it varies. Some titles like it - others dont. I havent tried it on Tainted Grail since AFMF works great, and is built into GPU driver - so I use that.

Just know that Framegen does come at a cost - you need to be able to get 60 FPS relatively consistently, otherwise you will have higher FPS but bad input lag.
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Trippie May 27 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by MonkInsane:
Also is it installed on a SSD or HDD?

Sadly AFMF only supported from 5700 XT and upwards. You could try Lossless Scaling (Available on Steam) for framegen for better FPS. Mileage may vary, I've found it laggy in the games I tested it on - but it varies. Some titles like it - others dont. I havent tried it on Tainted Grail since AFMF works great, and is built into GPU driver - so I use that.

Just know that Framegen does come at a cost - you need to be able to get 60 FPS relatively consistently, otherwise you will have higher FPS but bad input lag.

Your GPU is a bit on the weaker side though, so dunno if there's much you can do aside from upgrading.

1) Installed on SSD
2) I'm using AMD FSR with my resolution set to 1280x720p, which upscales it to 1080.
3) Yeah I know my GPU is weak, dunno what to upgrade it to without breaking the bank, that will also last several years, unfortunately.
4) Realistically, all I care about in games like this is to have max view distance with no popin +60fps lmao, idc about graphics
Last edited by Trippie; May 27 @ 2:00pm
Originally posted by Trippie:
worst part is im not very PC savvy, so i dont know what graphics card that i should upgrade to thats going to last me the next 5 years qwq

It's difficult to give advice without knowing what budget you have to work with.

Bit of general advice - ru your games off a ssd or nvme - hot a spinning disk. You probably allready do - just thought i'd mention it.

There's also the issue of CPU bottlenecking. No point in getting a new GPU if the CPU can't keep up with the new GPU.

Before you buy I suggest looking up your CPU and GPU pairing on a Bottleneck calculator. It's not all that accurate as many factors contribute to a bottleneck - but it's good enough for a rough idea.

See: https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/

As for my recommendation - if you can get it I'd look at the RX 7800 XT - I have one and it's an awesome card. It does have a bit of a bottleneck with your CPU - but not that much.
Trippie May 27 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by MonkInsane:
See: https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/

As for my recommendation - if you can get it I'd look at the RX 7800 XT - I have one and it's an awesome card. It does have a bit of a bottleneck with your CPU - but not that much.
Thank you for the recommendations and tips :praisesun:
Texus May 27 @ 2:42pm 
Well it's clear that I forgot about the game, seems like I played it once already and it put me on high at the start, warm air, some noise that is probably not the worst but still there (have to see if headphones make it vanish. That's also the part where I believe my PC parrs are either to old or what I heard is that I can add new thermal paste and that might reduce noise.

So enough testing I see how the games moves but beside some normal looking loading lags it seems to work.
The noise however be it my tinnitus or not, i want to figure out what that's about, I guess I don't have a choice but put a hopefully trustworthy shop some money into the throat and ask them to fix something.

My confusion came from lack or knowing about that stuff, previous problems with stupid workers or bad PC shops in our area.
Thank you but it's clear that I should start looking deeper into it tomorrow.

I just heard the game is good and it looked like something I might have avoided for now either because of the price, because I don't play every game like that and I just assumed it won't work. Seems my PC works a bit better with the game than I thought even if my character is still in prison.
Unity.

I'm on a 4080 Super with a Ryzen 7 7700 32gb CL30 6000.

Game runs incredibly well at 1440p maxed out DLAA. My rig isn't 4000 dollars.
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