Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

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Is this game better than Oblivion?
I'm ignoring answers "yOu cAn'T ComPaRe tHe tWo" Because yes you can they are literally the same game just different studios. I just want to know which studio made a better Oblivion.
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kingsims May 24 @ 6:54pm 
Oblivion Remastered is the OG oblivion with bug fixes and a UE5 Engine on top of it. It has all the DLC as well. Modding will be better on Oblivion game due to modder experience, and the UE5 being so open.

It does have some bad things like level scaling of enemies, and weapon scaling (There are mods out now that fix this). Its quest lines are massive. you can easily sink 100 hours into it. (Id say its the best bang for buck you can get.

Its just as good as Skyrim if you played that but never played oblivion. Id say if you never played oblivion and your PC can handle it. Go for that instead (You can get it on Xbox Series X, but i would not recommend that due to PC Exclusive mods).

If i had to choose id say Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition > The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered> Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon (Just slightly behind). Skyrim only wins because it runs the best, is the most massive, and most polished out of all of these 3 games. Plus the modding community is massive.
Originally posted by kingsims:
Plus the modding community is massive.
Massive and jiggly*
Drake May 24 @ 6:56pm 
I wouldn't say same game. But same genre.

Other than that, oblivion has better NPC AI routine and it has spellcraft. That's what this game is missing the most, the spellcraft and enchanting freedom.
The skyrim approach to magic if the one thing they shouldn't have copied.
No not in my opinion Elder scrolls is a huge popular game. This is more a love letter to those games.. That said this is much newer so it does many things better.
Oblivion is a classic game that' pretty much defined the genre. Tough to beat. That said - it's buggy to this day and that includes the remaster. Oblivion is longer and will have more modding support. (Hell - allready 100's if not 1000's of mods for the remastered).

That being said, I prefer this over Oblivion - I stopped my remastered playthrough for this. Granted that may be because I've finished OG Oblivion multiple times.
PutridMeat May 24 @ 7:01pm 
Originally posted by GSPOTxJESUS:
they are literally the same game just different studios.

Doom and Halo are literally the same game just different studios.

Sometimes I wonder how many people in Steam discussions only ever wear crocs because they never learned how to tie their shoes, or tap on pictures in restaurant menus because they don't know how to read the words.
Ank May 24 @ 7:01pm 
It is absolutely not better than oblivion. it's good but it has glaring inadequacies.
Many doors and buildings are just art.
no pick pocketing
many NPC's cant be talked to. Does TES games have any you cant talk to?
3rd person is garbage and the animation is bad
combat stinks.

Game is worth playing though.
MonkInsane May 24 @ 7:03pm 
Originally posted by Ank:
It is absolutely not better than oblivion. it's good but it has glaring inadequacies.
Many doors and buildings are just art.
no pick pocketing
many NPC's cant be talked to. Does TES games have any you cant talk to?
3rd person is garbage and the animation is bad
combat stinks.

Game is worth playing though.

Combat does not stink. Oblivion's combat is far far worse lol.
Originally posted by MonkInsane:
Originally posted by Ank:
It is absolutely not better than oblivion. it's good but it has glaring inadequacies.
Many doors and buildings are just art.
no pick pocketing
many NPC's cant be talked to. Does TES games have any you cant talk to?
3rd person is garbage and the animation is bad
combat stinks.

Game is worth playing though.

Combat does not stink. Oblivion's combat is far far worse lol.
A lot of people like Oblivion combat i am one of them. Oblivion is beloved and a well known franchise so it must have a big following.
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by MonkInsane:

Combat does not stink. Oblivion's combat is far far worse lol.
A lot of people like Oblivion combat i am one of them. Oblivion is beloved and a well known franchise so it must have a big following.

Oh you misunderstand - Oblivion is fantastic - but it's combat is a bit of an acquired taste. It's extremely clunky, to be expected considering how old the game is - and they didn't touch the combat in the remaster.

Love it though.

Combat in Tainted grail is far better though.
Jyggalad May 24 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by GSPOTxJESUS:
I'm ignoring answers "yOu cAn'T ComPaRe tHe tWo" Because yes you can they are literally the same game just different studios.
I mean... Idk how to help you then. If you're not gonna specify what you want to know is better and you're not gonna accept someone pointing out they're too games in the same genre but not the same game, not sure what you're hoping for.
oblivion remastered high fantasy great technical combat mechanics, polished lighting graphics. bad writing bad voice acting, bad characters. deep rpg

Avalon dark fantasy, great technical combat mechanics, bad lighting/graphics, great writing good voice actin/characters. deep rpg
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UncleD May 24 @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by kingsims:
Oblivion Remastered is the OG oblivion with bug fixes and a UE5 Engine on top of it. It has all the DLC as well. Modding will be better on Oblivion game due to modder experience, and the UE5 being so open.

It does have some bad things like level scaling of enemies, and weapon scaling (There are mods out now that fix this). Its quest lines are massive. you can easily sink 100 hours into it. (Id say its the best bang for buck you can get.

Its just as good as Skyrim if you played that but never played oblivion. Id say if you never played oblivion and your PC can handle it. Go for that instead (You can get it on Xbox Series X, but i would not recommend that due to PC Exclusive mods).

If i had to choose id say Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition > The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered> Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon (Just slightly behind). Skyrim only wins because it runs the best, is the most massive, and most polished out of all of these 3 games. Plus the modding community is massive.

Honestly this is the perfect description and rating of all three games. I have to say I was disappointed in the graphics of Tainted Grail..It pales in comparison to the other two.
ΛΞL™⚡ May 24 @ 8:37pm 
The combat and writing is a lot better in Tainted Grail compared to Oblivion but the graphics and the world in Oblivion feels more open and sandbox this game is great its not on the same graphical polish and quality as Elder Scrolls or Kingdom Come Deliverance but its always good to have another "Scrolls like" title.
This is a grim dark fantasy game. i wouldnt compare it to elder scrolls at all.
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