Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

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I'm torn about the Queen Bee quest
There are potentially 3 rewards, 2 of which are very powerful:


1: Help Broc. Meh, you get a sword.
2: Help Queen. You get the same sword, a spell to summon Ghost of Broc Meala, and a very powerful helmet with high armor, damage and critical chance.
3: Kill Ghost of Broc Meala. You get very powerful helmet and armor with critical chance, magic regen and lifesteal. But you cannot proceed in the quest.

Ideally, you can achieve 3 and 2! Has anyone found a way to kill the ghost and still talk to the queen? It seems his dialogue is required to teleport.
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Nevermind, used unintended exploit, but solved!



In Broc Meala, use aoe or drain spells to get Ghost down to 1hp (many reloads will be required for accidental overkills)

Fire an aoe spell at the ground with a bleed ring or crit for bleed effect and talk to Ghost. Before the effect wears off, leave the conversation.

In the split second before you are teleported, the Ghost will die. Returning to Broc Meala after talking to the Queen, his body is still there.

All of the rewards:
Hiveborn Horror helmet: 8 armor, 10 mana, 5% life steal
Worker Bee's Robe: 10 armor, 5 mana regen, 15% critical
Queen's Protector Crown: 12 armor, spell power 20%, physical dmg 20%, critical 5%
Ghost of Broc Meala: Spell to summon him as minion
Sting: Poison on hit sword, meh
Question, how do you start the quest? I've explored pretty much all the map and spoke to almost everyone and I can't find it
Originally posted by Mad Engineer Kikoumaru:
Question, how do you start the quest? I've explored pretty much all the map and spoke to almost everyone and I can't find it

It started automatically for me after I walked north from where the guy is standing by the bridge. Just north of the fast travel point I got attacked by a swarm of bees and when I killed one it started.
Huh, weird, I walked around there a lot and it never happened. Must have missed the exact spot. Thanks!
Originally posted by Mad Engineer Kikoumaru:
Huh, weird, I walked around there a lot and it never happened. Must have missed the exact spot. Thanks!

At first I missed it too, you have to talk to Broc near the bridge south-east of the good druids home. That conversation triggers the next portion. Broc often gets chased away by the wolves and bears, so it's easy to miss him.
Alstaris Apr 23 @ 12:20pm 
I just wanted to post how I was able to get both rewards because I was having difficultly using AOE spells, as they were not actually hitting him, even with the bleed ring.

I used the pyroclast core (which I found in the shrine of a forgotten god).

1) got broc low using the drain from blood transfusion (probably like 1/3 hp), which gets him upset and he gets into a weapon sheathe loop which you cannot interact with him.

2) sat behind one of the houses until out of detection, quicksaved then reloaded which resets his aggro, but not his hp. (alternatively I'm pretty sure you can just run far enough away until he completely loses aggro, making it possible to skip this step)

3) went off and charged the pyroclast core on random enemies on the map, then teleported back to broc when it was charged

4) stood the appropriate distance away from broc and used it and talked to him, only leaving the conversation after he died.

The spell from pyroclast doesnt actually do any initial damage, just apply status, which is why he doesn't get upset when he is hit by it. Also, I did some testing on several projectile based spells/consumables with AOEs, but none of them actually hit him.

Things that did actually do damage were the life/blood transfusion heavies, flame torrent light and heavy, and thunderstorm.

Last edited by Alstaris; Apr 23 @ 12:22pm
Lawrence Apr 23 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by Alstaris:
I just wanted to post how I was able to get both rewards because I was having difficultly using AOE spells, as they were not actually hitting him, even with the bleed ring.

That's a good strategy. Yeah, looking back only certain AOE attacks seem to work to apply the status for that last bit of HP. Hopefully in 1.0 we can still get both rewards, they are all very good.
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