Character Creation Needs A LOT of work.

[True Patriot]

Believe me, I'm sure this isn't really a priority right now, but the character creation is horrendous. There's basically no attractive male or female presets and there's virtually no customization. I look like a foot in real life, I really don't need to look like one in a fantasy game. Again, I'm sure this isn't a priority, but it needs to be said so it can hopefully improve for full release next year.

[hugocarvalho90]

Publicado originalmente por stmpunk:

Publicado originalmente por hugocarvalho90:

so here is a little adjustment I made - https://ibb.co/fdsTfC5
hope the image works - with some comparisons - https://ibb.co/jfNf180

the head correction looks really good, the shoulder anatomy you are talking about isn't actually a fact. There's a wide range of body shapes that vary following genetics, if a woman's a swimmer the shoulders can be way larger than their waist too (body development variation). In-laid shoulders that are as pronounced as your correction tend to be for specific genetics or undernourishment during development (as kids / teens).

The woman ideal body proportion tends to have shoulders and waist nearly identical in size, so the difference between them must be very slight or none.

What makes for what would be a "manly" body shape would be for them having shoulders larger than their waists (which, as I told you, can happen with swimmers)

yeah I know, like I said in the heads tall, its not absolute rule, but is a base and less strange for people, I know heads, arms, legs all can look different, I study a lot of anatomy because I do art, but the common audience will like a more base one, maybe if they had 2 different bases, but I know its more labor since they need to adjust armor sets. the arms in same thing, I just put slitly and squised a little based on her body, but that was my preference, and in some minutes because if I was going to adjust I was going to draw in 7/5 heads... I dont like 8 heads tall characters... the male for example is 6 heads if I am not wrong, I made very fast the comparizon, but deleted because he looks more ok.

[hugocarvalho90]

the trapezius was the big problem I think

[Dave Johnson]

Publicado originalmente por likho1eye:

Publicado originalmente por True Patriot:

Why shouldn't it matter? You see your character literally every time you open the gear screen? How has character creation ruined or turned AAA games into a "sh*tshow"? There are an innumerable amount of reasons AAA studios have gone down the drain, but to put character creation among them is absolutely hysterical. Your, "why does it even matter" mindset is literally what allowed developers and AAA game studios to put gaming where it is. It matters because you paid for it.

Video game protagonists are either pre-crafted based on how the studio wants them to look, or can be hand crafted by the player as either an idealized version of themselves or for role playing purposes. That's what "RP" in "RPG" stands for. The characters here aren't pre-made by the studio, there is a character creator. It's just a bad one.

You need to come down. I didn't saying anything about doing things to your mother or whatever.
Secondly, it doesn't matter because you literally do not ever see your character in game. All you see is equipped armor and weapons, which will look the same no matter what character you've designed. You don't even get a third person view or cinematic dialogs.
Would it be better if those things were in game? Yes.... but given reality of finite resources to build video games, I would much rather see more variety in abilities and gear, and more branching quests and interesting locations.... than being able to create a black character in high fantasy setting with mastectomy scars.

"You need to *calm down"

Bro didn't say anything remotely aggressive towards you, wtf? lmao

[xPEDx]

Publicado originalmente por True Patriot:

Believe me, I'm sure this isn't really a priority right now, but the character creation is horrendous. There's basically no attractive male or female presets and there's virtually no customization. I look like a foot in real life, I really don't need to look like one in a fantasy game. Again, I'm sure this isn't a priority, but it needs to be said so it can hopefully improve for full release next year.

Yea , Not a priority, But i;d still like to see a bit more cosmetics. and maybe even a third person too , But For NOW , id just be happy to get more game :)

[stmpunk]

Publicado originalmente por xPEDx:

Publicado originalmente por True Patriot:

Believe me, I'm sure this isn't really a priority right now, but the character creation is horrendous. There's basically no attractive male or female presets and there's virtually no customization. I look like a foot in real life, I really don't need to look like one in a fantasy game. Again, I'm sure this isn't a priority, but it needs to be said so it can hopefully improve for full release next year.

Yea , Not a priority, But i;d still like to see a bit more cosmetics. and maybe even a third person too , But For NOW , id just be happy to get more game :)

the way they built the melee system doesn't seem very compatible with 3rd person, at best it'd be a stiff model mimicking 1st person animations. None the less I've seen other games go this route before and it never really bothered me, though some ppl might sheetpost on it relentlessly (specially if the game doesn't present 'woke' elements, most reviewers will attack it on every single minimal flaw it may present)

From a mkt pov they'll probably avoid giving fuel to those nutjobs, given the devs don't seem to be 'woke' lunacy adherents. In their shoes I wouldnt give a single F, but than again I don't know how their company MO works.

Now, without seeing their test builds and considering we seem to be at max 1 year from release, I still feel the game isn't ready - character models and detail must be improved, and we have loads and loads of graphical glitches and geometry bugs still present in this current version. There are also a few minor issues with balancing which can be adjusted without much effort (just playing with numbers really)

[disastro311]

It says WORK IN PROGRESS above the character creation menu, which is redundant since the whole game is a WIP. Taking that as a form of emphasis, I think there's good reason to hope for more options in the future. Side note, I definitely second the notion that female heads are way too small.

[Bloodwyrm Wildheart]

Publicado originalmente por likho1eye:

After the sh*tshow that that we've seen in some recent AAA games, I'd rather just have 2-3 pre-built characters and skip character creation completely tbh.

And I'd rather have better character creation in games. Aim a little higher, eh?

Publicado originalmente por likho1eye:

Ok first of all, character creator and RP are not the same thing.

The first RPG and game that established the genre (D&D) has you creating your own characters. It's been there since the very beginning and is a fundamental part of the RPG's identity. Character creation and RPGs are thus inseparable.
Lacking the former invalidates the game as an RPG.

[NorscanWarlord]

I couldn't care less if the characters are attractive or not, the thing that bothers me is the transparent hair, it annoys me a lot

[Chungo Beepis]

haha complaints by omission are my fav, if you're at the "character creator needs more work" stage then you've passed a serious milestone, well done devs!

[hgm1]

Good enough for me in a 1st person game.