Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

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Grimseethe Apr 7, 2023 @ 10:38am
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Game is starting to annoy me
Game is getting quite boring, the quests don't give you much to go on and it doesn't show who gave you the quest on the map so i have to look around for everyone, parts of the game seem to bug if you explore the world before questing, for example a guy asked me to bring back a deserter and the man sent to find the deserter from a stronghold, but ive already been there and cleared it out, couldn't find anything to do with the quest and just now before i quit game i was in some room fighting the mistbearer, but i couldn't do any damage to it, all it did was summon skeletons, after about 10 minutes i assumed it was bugged, but couldn't leave the room as i ported there and it had no door, had to quit game without saving.
You're sitting on gold here you really are, but there's a reason almost no one is talking about this game and why streamers like asmongold aren't playing or talking about it, even though its his genre, i was stunned when asmon didn't even mention this game.
I know you're a small team and i totally respect it, please work on what ive mentioned ignore everything else, ive been in the business 25 years, add what ive said and i can help you more, watch your playerbase triple.
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somedude Apr 7, 2023 @ 10:44am 
actually it's pretty easy to make a game that gets noticed by streamers inane banter to rake in cash, or nets in a lot of money and it doesn't have to be good or interesting at all quite the opposit just stamp out another "dark souls like" clone! I actually like these guys that they have their own concept of "old school fun" and stuck with it. The objective for them is to not .uk it up in EA trying to please everyone and become a mess NOBODY likes. Cult games for smaller teams can be actually more profitable since they stand out from the crowd, leave the AAA junk to the big corporate bots
Kyrios Apr 7, 2023 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by somedude:
actually it's pretty easy to make a game that gets noticed by streamers inane banter to rake in cash, or nets in a lot of money and it doesn't have to be good or interesting at all quite the opposit just stamp out another "dark souls like" clone! I actually like these guys that they have their own concept of "old school fun" and stuck with it. The objective for them is to not .uk it up in EA trying to please everyone and become a mess NOBODY likes. Cult games for smaller teams can be actually more profitable since they stand out from the crowd, leave the AAA junk to the big corporate bots

I agree with Somedude. Doing like everyone else will only cause the game to lose its soul.

Originally posted by jamie6429:
I know you're a small team and i totally respect it, please work on what ive mentioned ignore everything else, ive been in the business 25 years, add what ive said and i can help you more, watch your playerbase triple.

Please, don't be rude. Instead, you should help the dev team by filing bug reports and not discouraging them. And if you have a long experience in this field, why not make it a constructive subject? That would be lovely.
Last edited by Kyrios; Apr 7, 2023 @ 3:08pm
Grimseethe Apr 7, 2023 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by somedude:
actually it's pretty easy to make a game that gets noticed by streamers inane banter to rake in cash, or nets in a lot of money and it doesn't have to be good or interesting at all quite the opposit just stamp out another "dark souls like" clone! I actually like these guys that they have their own concept of "old school fun" and stuck with it. The objective for them is to not .uk it up in EA trying to please everyone and become a mess NOBODY likes. Cult games for smaller teams can be actually more profitable since they stand out from the crowd, leave the AAA junk to the big corporate bots
I'm asking for basic QoL not AAA features. When devs reinvent the wheel their game dies, instead perfect the wheel.
Grimseethe Apr 7, 2023 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Kyrios:
Originally posted by somedude:
actually it's pretty easy to make a game that gets noticed by streamers inane banter to rake in cash, or nets in a lot of money and it doesn't have to be good or interesting at all quite the opposit just stamp out another "dark souls like" clone! I actually like these guys that they have their own concept of "old school fun" and stuck with it. The objective for them is to not .uk it up in EA trying to please everyone and become a mess NOBODY likes. Cult games for smaller teams can be actually more profitable since they stand out from the crowd, leave the AAA junk to the big corporate bots

I agree with Somdedude. Doing like everyone else will only cause the game to lose its soul.

Originally posted by jamie6429:
I know you're a small team and i totally respect it, please work on what ive mentioned ignore everything else, ive been in the business 25 years, add what ive said and i can help you more, watch your playerbase triple.

Please, don't be rude. Instead, you should help the dev team by filing bug reports and not discouraging them. And if you have a long experience in this field, why not make it a constructive subject? That would be lovely.
1. Look at my comment about the wheel, not typing it again.
2. Wasnt rude in any way, shape or form, discussing issue draws attention and gets thing done faster.
What ive asked for is crystal clear.
Andycrapped Apr 7, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
You should have spend those 25 years practicing writing and shaping a paragraph. Your brick of text is so hard to read it's not funny. Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when your text literally hurts their eyes.
Kyrios Apr 7, 2023 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by jamie6429:
1. Look at my comment about the wheel, not typing it again.
2. Wasnt rude in any way, shape or form, discussing issue draws attention and gets thing done faster.
What ive asked for is crystal clear.

Enumerate problems is not solving them. Whatsoever your first intention, there are many ways to be hurtful or rude without using coarse language.
Last edited by Kyrios; Apr 7, 2023 @ 1:44pm
Andi5000 Apr 7, 2023 @ 2:15pm 
"i was in some room fighting the mistbearer, but i couldn't do any damage to it, all it did was summon skeletons, after about 10 minutes i assumed it was bugged," ... tells me you may have been doing many things "in this business for 25 years" but certainly not playing games. This was a very straighforward scene to be solved with a basic understanding of gaming concepts. Also, you do not seem to realize that this is a demo, not a full game yet. Who needs to mention how long they have been in the business in order to make their opinion matter, disqualifies themselves. Or in the words of Tywin Lannister "Any man who says 'I am the king' is no true king."
JJ Apr 7, 2023 @ 2:25pm 
Bloody hell, do some formatting, spell checks and grammar checks. This post is a nightmare to read.
You might have 25 years in the business, but it reads like you have two years in school.
Last edited by JJ; Apr 8, 2023 @ 1:11pm
The Crippler Apr 7, 2023 @ 2:31pm 
its a great game!
lukaself Apr 7, 2023 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by jamie6429:
Originally posted by Kyrios:

I agree with Somdedude. Doing like everyone else will only cause the game to lose its soul.



Please, don't be rude. Instead, you should help the dev team by filing bug reports and not discouraging them. And if you have a long experience in this field, why not make it a constructive subject? That would be lovely.
1. Look at my comment about the wheel, not typing it again.
2. Wasnt rude in any way, shape or form, discussing issue draws attention and gets thing done faster.
What ive asked for is crystal clear.
What you complained about isn't even that clear to begin with and your feedback isn't specific enough. You may try using formatting to make your post easier to read and for each issue you have with the game, try adding a potential solution if you can. "Game is boring" "Game has bugs" isn't very useful.

Remember that sometimes, your idea might only feel subjectively better, others may still disagree. Early access is great to have that kind of discussions, if you're willing to apply a little effort to improve your communication.

Also, although there is no problems with following the influencers and enjoying fast-gaming-food once in a while... try getting out of your comfort zone from time to time - play an outsider game which hasn't received a lot of attention yet, you might be pleasantly surprised. :clickbutton:
Last edited by lukaself; Apr 7, 2023 @ 2:55pm
yenkin2001 Apr 7, 2023 @ 9:59pm 
It is early access, and since I have been with it since the Conquest version, I think this is doing a pretty good job. Through I think other than the story, Skyrim was the model and while I love Skyrim, some of the bad things came too, I find close combat to clunky and the timing has to be right on. I find Magic or Arrows the best thing. Hit and run seems to work, as I cannot seem to survive a three mob attack.
drohr Apr 8, 2023 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by jamie6429:
Game is getting quite boring, the quests don't give you much to go on and it doesn't show who gave you the quest on the map so i have to look around for everyone, parts of the game seem to bug if you explore the world before questing, for example a guy asked me to bring back a deserter and the man sent to find the deserter from a stronghold, but ive already been there and cleared it out, couldn't find anything to do with the quest and just now before i quit game i was in some room fighting the mistbearer, but i couldn't do any damage to it, all it did was summon skeletons, after about 10 minutes i assumed it was bugged, but couldn't leave the room as i ported there and it had no door, had to quit game without saving.
You're sitting on gold here you really are, but there's a reason almost no one is talking about this game and why streamers like asmongold aren't playing or talking about it, even though its his genre, i was stunned when asmon didn't even mention this game.
I know you're a small team and i totally respect it, please work on what ive mentioned ignore everything else, ive been in the business 25 years, add what ive said and i can help you more, watch your playerbase triple.
You DO realize this game is still in Alpha, right? Do you even know what that is? Anyway all you need to to is read the letter you found on one of the 3 dead bodies and it triggers. They are working on the game and are pretty good at fixing stuff. Mistbearer - you need a bow. Just shoot at it and it damages it. I've been playing computer games for like 35 years. I beat your 25 year bid. ;) Anyway just have fun, dude! It's a game and it's being worked on. I am sure the story continues. ) (i just finish the chapter after seeing Authur)
Last edited by drohr; Apr 8, 2023 @ 12:00am
Grimseethe Apr 8, 2023 @ 12:14am 
Originally posted by Andycrapped:
You should have spend those 25 years practicing writing and shaping a paragraph. Your brick of text is so hard to read it's not funny. Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when your text literally hurts their eyes.
How i write stuff is fine, luckily none of you are 5 so youl manage.
Grimseethe Apr 8, 2023 @ 12:15am 
Originally posted by Andi5000:
"i was in some room fighting the mistbearer, but i couldn't do any damage to it, all it did was summon skeletons, after about 10 minutes i assumed it was bugged," ... tells me you may have been doing many things "in this business for 25 years" but certainly not playing games. This was a very straighforward scene to be solved with a basic understanding of gaming concepts. Also, you do not seem to realize that this is a demo, not a full game yet. Who needs to mention how long they have been in the business in order to make their opinion matter, disqualifies themselves. Or in the words of Tywin Lannister "Any man who says 'I am the king' is no true king."
There was nothing to solve, i assure you.
Grimseethe Apr 8, 2023 @ 12:16am 
Guys replying with stupid comments wont help the game, telling me its alpha wont help the game, agree with my valid points of be silent.
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Date Posted: Apr 7, 2023 @ 10:38am
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