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Rōnin Jul 18, 2023 @ 4:12pm

Being referred to as "they/them" in the game bothers me.

I'm fine if the devs allow you to choose your pronouns. But roleplaying as a straight male/female and being referred to as they/them takes me out of the experience completely.

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Caladian

Jul 18, 2023 @ 4:42pm

OMG, this is so dumb. They/them has been used in gaming long before the movement. Get over yourself it literally has nothing to do with that.

Rōnin Jul 18, 2023 @ 4:44pm

Originally posted by Caladian:
OMG, this is so dumb. They/them has been used in gaming long before the movement. Get over yourself it literally has nothing to do with that.

Not referring to any movement. If I'm roleplaying as a straight man/woman I want to be referred to by the proper pronouns.

Caladian

Jul 18, 2023 @ 5:21pm

Originally posted by Rōnin:
Originally posted by Caladian:
OMG, this is so dumb. They/them has been used in gaming long before the movement. Get over yourself it literally has nothing to do with that.

Not referring to any movement. If I'm roleplaying as a straight man/woman I want to be referred to by the proper pronouns.

You missed the point. Devs uses they/them when they don't want to record and code in gender preference. Also they/them literally has nothing to do with being straight or not.

Rōnin Jul 18, 2023 @ 5:35pm

Originally posted by Caladian:
Originally posted by Rōnin:

Not referring to any movement. If I'm roleplaying as a straight man/woman I want to be referred to by the proper pronouns.
You missed the point. Devs uses they/them when they don't want to record and code in gender preference. Also they/them literally has nothing to do with being straight or not.

I understand it's to save costs. However it's still jarring. I used the straight term to differentiate from non-binary and others who from my understanding tend to use they/them (among other pronouns). I'm not expecting the devs to record new voice lines, I'm just providing some feedback so that in the future if they get to make a game with a larger budget, they may consider giving players a choice of what pronouns they wish to be referred to.

Rōnin Jul 18, 2023 @ 5:39pm

Originally posted by Xenophobe:
They/them has been an accepted manner of referring to individual humans for a few thousand years now. Individual orientation has nothing to do with it.

That said, if the current LGBTQQIP2SA political correctness requires forbidding the use of proper pronouns for heterosexual gamers or those that identify by a specific gender, then aren't we heterosexual gamers or those that identify by a specific gender being treated unfairly by not being represented? Perhaps games need to ask a player to select a character's orientation for the appropriate identifiers to be used in-game, that way no one feels left out.

Yes, that's exactly my point. Devs should give players the choice on what pronouns to use.

Zeel Ara

Jul 19, 2023 @ 4:01am

Yea it can be a bit distracting. But hardly something you can't get used to in a couple minutes if you decide to not make a big deal out of it.

Galahad908 has Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Jul 19, 2023 @ 2:35pm

this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

DiscoMoose has Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Jul 19, 2023 @ 5:36pm

lol this is pretty common in rpg's like this

Crowing

Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:37pm

Originally posted by Caladian:
OMG, this is so dumb. They/them has been used in gaming long before the movement. Get over yourself it literally has nothing to do with that.

an example would be great.

WarNerve

Jul 22, 2023 @ 1:37am

Originally posted by Rōnin:
Originally posted by Xenophobe:
They/them has been an accepted manner of referring to individual humans for a few thousand years now. Individual orientation has nothing to do with it.

That said, if the current LGBTQQIP2SA political correctness requires forbidding the use of proper pronouns for heterosexual gamers or those that identify by a specific gender, then aren't we heterosexual gamers or those that identify by a specific gender being treated unfairly by not being represented? Perhaps games need to ask a player to select a character's orientation for the appropriate identifiers to be used in-game, that way no one feels left out.

Yes, that's exactly my point. Devs should give players the choice on what pronouns to use.

I disagree. No one should get to choose their pronouns. Pronouns are words used by other people. I don't agree with forcing other people to take part in your personal view of reality or to participate in whatever fantasy you have for yourself in your head. This whole, "Choosing of pronouns" thing needs to stop. It's insanity.

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Gravvy Jul 22, 2023 @ 12:13pm

Originally posted by Crowing:
Originally posted by Caladian:
OMG, this is so dumb. They/them has been used in gaming long before the movement. Get over yourself it literally has nothing to do with that.
an example would be great.

Any Elder Scrolls game, any RPG that let's you choose your gender too. Any of them.

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DankWestern has Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon

Jul 22, 2023 @ 1:28pm

Kinda shocked to be the first one to leave a clown award on this.

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Duplexxx Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:39am

I, too, believe the "pronoun" craze to be idiotic. Though considering the Setting, referring to someone with an obvious Sex as "they" should be VERY rare, It depends on the execution in this case.

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