Useless trucks that need rework/ overhaul

[Space Cowboy]

I like kenworth as a company and would be stoked to see the sister company peterbilt make an entrance as well. however this game has a large deal with introducing highway over the road trucks for a game that is almost exclusively off road. this truck has 0 AWD.

can you run it with out it? yes but it is a headache and a half unless there's large stretches of pavement. they did the same thing with western stars new line up of highway and vocational trucks they got licensed a few dlc's ago and no one wanted them till they added the AWD.

this game is 90% being stuck in thick mud so AWD is almost a necessity for a large portion of the player base and the terrain is often mud to where I dont look at any other transmission other that the 4 gear off road cause nothing else is worth it or gives better traction. this is basically a licensed reskin of the P512 that looks like the CAT trucks and they have AWD. so if you want to be a completionist buy it but otherwise not worth until they add more tarmac/pavement to these maps this will sit unused as the P512, the paystar, the trans star and the ford 9000 will and any other truck lacking AWD/off road functionality/purpose or the apache that is front wheel drive and only works in AWD.

be nice to see them add the chevy bison and conventional ford 9000 and the old gmc and chevy apache step side and what not form the wildlands and old timer dlcs in mud runner even as a port to this game but its just random license stuff now.

[Beast of War]

Escrito originalmente por Vimpster:

The Kolobs, the tatarin, the Antartic, the ZikZ 605R and 612H. I rarely use such vehicles because I do not find them fun to drive, but I do not advocate that they change those vehicles to suit my taste because they are adding variety to the game.

But these are not universally usable either.

Think of the deliberate "between rock wall passage" choke points where only medium or light trucks will fit through. And it is no coincidence most of these trucks do not mount chain tires so cannot be used on ice road slopes.

[Vimpster]

Escrito originalmente por Beast of War:

Escrito originalmente por Vimpster:

The Kolobs, the tatarin, the Antartic, the ZikZ 605R and 612H. I rarely use such vehicles because I do not find them fun to drive, but I do not advocate that they change those vehicles to suit my taste because they are adding variety to the game.

But these are not universally usable either.

Think of the deliberate "between rock wall passage" choke points where only medium or light trucks will fit through. And it is no coincidence most of these trucks do not mount chain tires so cannot be used on ice road slopes.

I was not trying to imply that they were. They are trucks commonly used by many players because of how easy they can get through mud/snow. The ZikZ 605R in particular is a popular choice among players that seem to enjoy having zero challenge, due to it's ease of use and versatility.

The point is the very thing that some players like about the vehicles is the same thing I dislike about them, and the same goes for the so called "useless" trucks. Why can't we be happy that there is something for everyone rather than insisting that all trucks be made easy to use?

[Beast of War]

Escrito originalmente por Vimpster:

I was not trying to imply that they were. They are trucks commonly used by many players because of how easy they can get through mud/snow. The ZikZ 605R in particular is a popular choice among players that seem to enjoy having zero challenge, due to it's ease of use and versatility.

The point is the very thing that some players like about the vehicles is the same thing I dislike about them, and the same goes for the so called "useless" trucks. Why can't we be happy that there is something for everyone rather than insisting that all trucks be made easy to use?

Well i rarely take them out, but when i do i do not dislike them as that specific task is their purpose. A good example is the ski piste slope in current season you have to travel up and down many times for cabin material missions....so much easier and faster with large wheel vehicles. But on the challenging mountain paths on both sides of the ski piste they are too wide and cumbersome. So you will have to make use of a mix of vehicles anyway.

And since i am paying for fuel i even make use of a paved road bound KW 990 with a super long trailer for inter-map material delivery to local operating off road trucks, as the new seasons paved road system enables to do that. It saves a lot of fuel as the KW 990 is pretty fuel efficient. But it can be any RWD open diff truck too.

[Vimpster]

Escrito originalmente por Beast of War:

And since i am paying for fuel i even make use of a paved road bound KW 990 with a super long trailer for inter-map material delivery to local operating off road trucks, as the new seasons paved road system enables to do that. It saves a lot of fuel as the KW 990 is pretty fuel efficient. But it can be any RWD open diff truck too.

I would like players to come to appreciate that the RWD vehicles are still capable of offroading through a considerable chunk of the game content. I used the Transtar to make one of the deliveries to the top of the ski hill (driving up the ski slope itself) as well as a delivery to each of the ski lifts (using the windy back roads). Not a single winch was used for any of it. If the Transtar can do that then the new Kenworth should have it even easier still with its larger wheels and difflock.

It seems like players think they are far more limited with such vehicles than they really are.

[FafnirChaos]

Escrito originalmente por Kokiboo:

Escrito originalmente por Vimpster:

Leave the trucks alone please. Having trucks with a variety of capabilities and weaknesses is a good thing.

Having 90% of trucks in the game be useless is not a good thing.

So what you're saying is - you cannot drive 90% of the trucks in the game?

All froza cars drive similar - they can be customized to suit what you want - and it's a lot cheaper than this game....

[K***boo]

Escrito originalmente por FafnirChaos:

So what you're saying is - you cannot drive 90% of the trucks in the game?

No, I'm saying 90% of trucks in the game are useless.

A truck without self-loading crane is useless. A truck without a spare wheel is useless. A truck with short range is useless. A truck with low clearance, no difflock or no AWD is useless.

Open the truck list in the game and see for yourself how many of them meet all four criteria.

[Nasder]

Escrito originalmente por Kokiboo:

A truck without self-loading crane is useless. A truck without a spare wheel is useless. A truck with short range is useless. A truck with low clearance, no difflock or no AWD is useless.

I am doing very well with useless trucks then, I must be doing something wrong.

[Vimpster]

Escrito originalmente por Kokiboo:

No, I'm saying 90% of trucks in the game are useless.

A truck without self-loading crane is useless. A truck without a spare wheel is useless. A truck with short range is useless. A truck with low clearance, no difflock or no AWD is useless.

Open the truck list in the game and see for yourself how many of them meet all four criteria.

By your criteria I seem to primarily use "useless" trucks.

[K***boo]

Escrito originalmente por Nasder:

I am doing very well with useless trucks then, I must be doing something wrong.

The thing you're doing wrong is playing on Easy Mode, where most of these limitations don't matter.

Then you come here and talk about truck balance. That's funny.

[Nasder]

Escrito originalmente por Kokiboo:

Escrito originalmente por Nasder:

I am doing very well with useless trucks then, I must be doing something wrong.

The thing you're doing wrong is playing on Easy Mode, where most of these limitations don't matter.

Then you come here and talk about truck balance. That's funny.

What limitations? I play with no free repair, no free fuel, recovery cost money. Trucks from outside of region cost 3 times more to repair. And I also go with 2x damage. Oh, and I forgot, no free loading.

EDIT: Forgot I don't have free loading.

[Vimpster]

Escrito originalmente por Kokiboo:

Escrito originalmente por Nasder:

I am doing very well with useless trucks then, I must be doing something wrong.

The thing you're doing wrong is playing on Easy Mode, where most of these limitations don't matter.

Then you come here and talk about truck balance. That's funny.

Similar to Nasder, I play New Game+, about 80% complete. No free fuel, no free repair, always manual loading, never recover (I actually have recover costs set much higher than in Hard mode). I also do not sell any vehicles unless I find duplicates. Still mostly use trucks you consider to be useless. I even go out of my way in many cases to not have a crane on the truck I am transporting cargo with in order to make use of more vehicles. And I do not do convoys to reduce the number of trips, every vehicle drives itself or is loaded onto a ramp bed/trailer.

[Nasder]

Escrito originalmente por Vimpster:

Similar to Nasder, I play New Game+, about 80% complete. No free fuel, no free repair, always manual loading, never recover (I actually have recover costs set much higher than in Hard mode). I also do not sell any vehicles unless I find duplicates. Still mostly use trucks you consider to be useless. I even go out of my way in many cases to not have a crane on the truck I am transporting cargo with in order to make use of more vehicles. And I do not do convoys to reduce the number of trips, every vehicle drives itself or is loaded onto a ramp bed/trailer.

I don't play that hard. I allow myself to sell trucks. But I like to have trucks for specific jobs instead of one truck that does it all.

It allows me to use more trucks and trucks I might not use otherwise. For example my crane truck doesn't need the best mobility. It just needs to get to the loading area and stay there until I'm done. It might need help from a more mobile truck to get there, so be it.

But I think that is more fun than just having a truck that is maximized to be the very best.

[¦Φ+Trasher <CZ>Φ~¦]

Ken 999 with Awd is very funny
but cars need some + ,- balance

[Tenryū]

Kenworth W990 should be truck dlc on season 11 then people will be okay with it, but it is not and that is a problem you paid full price for 1 truck

the wolf pack first came with worse trucks than W990 but the dlc gave us 3 trucks, even season 7 (the worst dlc season ever so far) with useless azov it kinda worth to buy than this crap W990

it is not about the truck, it is about the greedy and something players don't like and saber keep doing it

we love this game, we will give our money for this game but not like this


nb: almost 1000 hours in this game and transtar is one of the most use truck in my game hours

[K***boo]

Escrito originalmente por Nasder:

What limitations? I play with no free repair, no free fuel, recovery cost money. Trucks from outside of region cost 3 times more to repair. And I also go with 2x damage. Oh, and I forgot, no free loading.

EDIT: Forgot I don't have free loading.

So you have no free loading but drive trucks with no crane? Then what, you pay $150 every time? And you don't have free recovery/fuel but you run trucks that don't have range to do the entire trip? What do you do then, just leave them? Use another truck to bring more fuel, wasting time? And when one of your wheel pops and you have no spare, you bring a wheel to it every time?

At this point I hope both of you are lying because otherwise what you're doing can only be described as stupidity.