Kenworth rant

[Naewyng]

Why are people praising this truck?

It's IMO a piece of crap for it's stats. It's supposed to have the best engine in the game (265k torque) and MSH II tires, which should be the best in mud next to zikz tires and tatarin tires.

Yet it barely manages to get anywhere. The slightest incline will give it trouble empty, and make it almost a guarantee that it's wheels will lock up if you're actually hauling something, or even if you have the new crane on.

It got to the point where there was a small mound in front of the left wheel and it came to a stop (after going in L+) and it just couldn't get past it... The mound was not even half the height of a wheel...

What the actual f**k is up with this truck?

Oh also it's only marginally heavier than the big kolob without wheel weight, and I think with wheels the kolob will be heavier since it has 8 of them 59', compared to kenworth's 6x 69', but the kolob performs much, much, MUCH better than the kenworth in almost every situation.

The only situation where kenworth performed better than the kolob in my tests was a situation with just mud on a flat terrain. The moment a little bit of incline was introduced, it instantly performed worse.

[CommandDork]

Ya, I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but ended up shelving it before I just flat out sold it. There are better alternatives to be sure.

[Vimpster]

I am one of those that praises the truck.

In terms of performance, I certainly would not consider it to be one of the top performers in its class. But it gets the job done in my experience. The only time I recall having any serious wheel lock issues with it was when I had the new heavy duty crane attachment on it. But so far it seems that every truck that uses that attachment seems to really struggle.

I used the Kenworth a lot so far and I have never needed to resort to using the winch to get it up a hill outside of when I had the new heavy crane attached. I may have encountered some minor wheel lock issues that were solved by simply reversing a short distance and trying a slightly different path. That is generally how I deal with most wheel lock issues for any truck.

So why do I praise it? It performs very acceptably while being different from most other trucks in terms of it's size and shape, adding variety to the game, and I really love the engine sound for it. It is my new favourite sounding truck right now.

I'm the type of player that makes use of every vehicle in the game because I like variety. So I don't sell trucks unless I have duplicates. And even if a truck does perform poorly I would still make sure to use it from time to time. But as it happens I find the Kenworth performs quite well.

If you think that a truck will perform the best because it has the most powerful engine in the game than you don't seem to be familiar with the whole power to weight ratio concept. That isn't to say that a vehicle with worse power to weight ratios are automatically worse performers. But there certainly should be no expectation that just because a truck has more power that it will therefore perform better since they are often exceedingly more heavy and therefore much of the added power is simply helping to compensate for the extra weight of the truck.

[Beast of War]

What gearbox is installed in it ?

You wouldn't happen to have installed the "fast" multi purpose gearbox right ? Turning such HUUUUUGE wheels eats up a LOT of torque. You know, M = r x F ? And a massive own weight eats up engine power as well.

So if you intervened in the torque multiplier ( in choosing the fast gearbox ) then it such results are of your own making.

You either trade speed for axle torque, or axle torque for speed. Can't have both, and engine torque or the size of the engine has little to do with that.

It would surprise you some 100 HP tractors - very small and modest ones - can pull plows through soil that will stop a 1000 HP monster truck. It is all about the geaebox reductions, wheel size and tires.

When farming industrialistation started out they used 15 HP single cylinder tractors to pull plows through soil....lol. The flyweheel and the gearbox provided the torque. These were ofcourse slower then turtle.

A massive engine is only part of the package. The gearbox is deciding in what it can do.

[PrettyFunkedUp]

Grab the Keny 10x10 mod slap in the off road gearbox and watch in awe.


Here's a mate even trying to use his crane as a snorkel. Spoiler alert : it doesnt work

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3035257845

[dandinks]

Originally posted by Beast of War:

What gearbox is installed in it ?

You wouldn't happen to have installed the "fast" multi purpose gearbox right ? Turning such HUUUUUGE wheels eats up a LOT of torque. You know, M = r x F ? And a massive own weight eats up engine power as well.

So if you intervened in the torque multiplier ( in choosing the fast gearbox ) then it such results are of your own making.

You either trade speed for axle torque, or axle torque for speed. Can't have both, and engine torque or the size of the engine has little to do with that.

It would surprise you some 100 HP tractors - very small and modest ones - can pull plows through soil that will stop a 1000 HP monster truck. It is all about the geaebox reductions, wheel size and tires.

When farming industrialistation started out they used 15 HP single cylinder tractors to pull plows through soil....lol. The flyweheel and the gearbox provided the torque. These were ofcourse slower then turtle.

A massive engine is only part of the package. The gearbox is deciding in what it can do.

mid truck cant even use the good transmission on it, back to zikz meta

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by Beast of War:

What gearbox is installed in it ?

You wouldn't happen to have installed the "fast" multi purpose gearbox right ? Turning such HUUUUUGE wheels eats up a LOT of torque. You know, M = r x F ? And a massive own weight eats up engine power as well.

So if you intervened in the torque multiplier ( in choosing the fast gearbox ) then it such results are of your own making.

You either trade speed for axle torque, or axle torque for speed. Can't have both, and engine torque or the size of the engine has little to do with that.

It would surprise you some 100 HP tractors - very small and modest ones - can pull plows through soil that will stop a 1000 HP monster truck. It is all about the geaebox reductions, wheel size and tires.

When farming industrialistation started out they used 15 HP single cylinder tractors to pull plows through soil....lol. The flyweheel and the gearbox provided the torque. These were ofcourse slower then turtle.

A massive engine is only part of the package. The gearbox is deciding in what it can do.

Using the same one I'm using on Kolob, the advanced special.

Also the game only gives 1 stat to engines, the torque, so I'm not sure if it's as accurate to real life as you explained here :D

[Raigekon]

Originally posted by Beast of War:

What gearbox is installed in it ?

You wouldn't happen to have installed the "fast" multi purpose gearbox right ? Turning such HUUUUUGE wheels eats up a LOT of torque. You know, M = r x F ? And a massive own weight eats up engine power as well.

So if you intervened in the torque multiplier ( in choosing the fast gearbox ) then it such results are of your own making.

You either trade speed for axle torque, or axle torque for speed. Can't have both, and engine torque or the size of the engine has little to do with that.

It would surprise you some 100 HP tractors - very small and modest ones - can pull plows through soil that will stop a 1000 HP monster truck. It is all about the geaebox reductions, wheel size and tires.

When farming industrialistation started out they used 15 HP single cylinder tractors to pull plows through soil....lol. The flyweheel and the gearbox provided the torque. These were ofcourse slower then turtle.

A massive engine is only part of the package. The gearbox is deciding in what it can do.

What you're saying about gearboxes is wrong, at least as far as I can tell. Looking at the the xml file it doesn't matter what gearbox you use, if it's L it's always going to have the same AngVel. Setting for it is simply a false or true, so it either has L/L-/L+ or doesn't, there is no difference in how those perform.

The main difference between the gearboxes is H, automatic and fuel modifier, meanwhile as i've stated L stays the same.

Something is simply funky with kenworth and i doubt it's just the tire size. There are other trucks that have bigger tires that have less torque which do not run into the same issue. For example azov antarctic has a weaker engine and bigger tires(talking mudtires specifically) and does not run into this issue, at least as far as I remember.

[Beast of War]

Originally posted by Raigekon:

What you're saying about gearboxes is wrong.

I used to think that too....right until i saw ( and was able to get ) some YT guy using a spreadsheet with ALL data the game uses. Apparently that is not found in one file but several ones. That is why tire friction stats do not lead to the best traction in game either, as tire width and softness ( deformity ) are handled from another file location.

And Lo, all gearboxes have their own modifiers to engine torque values, meaning the engine torque is changed by that value to produce torque at the wheels.

This games gearboxes properly put engine torque through a unique for that box single fixed modifier. This has effects on fuel consumption, speed and wheel torque.

That is pretty much a crude representation how real gearboxes work.