manual transmissions?

[Sir FrostDragon]

is this game ever going to have manual gear boxes? i mean, if it isnt, there's no point in ever playing. how can someone play a driving game with an automatic transmission, i dont get it.. it's so boring

[Tighron]

Once you unlock some of the better gear boxes you can kind of have a gear system, but its just different stages of low gear. But it does require you to actively shift between them to effectively use them.

I cant say ive experience the other issues with controls and trucks stalling, but ive played my almost 400 hours on a xbox controller only and not kb+m.
Closest ive had is a truck bumping on a rock or stump in a weird way and send the truck and all its cargo flying across the map and thats both rare and hilarious.

[Gryphon]

Snowrunner to me is more of a puzzle/logic game than a driving game. But that's me.

[robdisco82]

exactly what I said If you have a game this is a succession to a previous game, Then is classified as a "simulation" then implement "simulation qualities, dont add stuff to snuff the immersion then say ♥♥♥♥ like "This game was intended for controller" which sends your credibility for simulation to the "need for speed" genre

[Oz Flyer]

Sounds a bit like this game is made of the US market come home form school or work and turn on PC or console leave brain in neutral and only know how to drive an auto.

Q. You are driving a car or truck WHAT is wrong with dev's?

A. They are mostly under 30 and only have ever played on a console.

[John Webfishing]

i bet everyone thats "oh we dont need manual its a puzzle game blah blah blah you already have a low gear to change to" cant drive a manual in real life

[dandinks]

the only difference a manual transmission would make in this game is allowing a faster shift to the top gear since the fast shift trick doesnt work for the last gear on a truck

[SlowClick]

Originally posted by Scoomaloo:

i bet everyone thats "oh we dont need manual its a puzzle game blah blah blah you already have a low gear to change to" cant drive a manual in real life

Well I said that and I've driven maybe half a million miles with manual gearboxes IRL.

If ppl want a game so they can play with wheels and peddles then SR is not a game for you.

[TheLostPenguin]

Originally posted by SlowClick:

Originally posted by Scoomaloo:

i bet everyone thats "oh we dont need manual its a puzzle game blah blah blah you already have a low gear to change to" cant drive a manual in real life

Well I said that and I've driven maybe half a million miles with manual gearboxes IRL.

If ppl want a game so they can play with wheels and peddles then SR is not a game for you.

Wheel support apparently being completely broken is a separate issue altogether, if it worked for steering and pedals you could use the gears exactly the same way as on a kb, where selecting between low+, high and auto covers ~90% of usage.

[Ayahuasca]

Manual trans would let you drop tho 4-3-2-1 instead of 4 to 0 the way it currently does it......I guess the tradeoff is 3 low gears tho .....Be nice if the auto setting they have in the game responded better on downshifting tho for sure

[TheLostPenguin]

Originally posted by Ayahuasca:

Manual trans would let you drop tho 4-3-2-1 instead of 4 to 0 the way it currently does it......I guess the tradeoff is 3 low gears tho .....Be nice if the auto setting they have in the game responded better on downshifting tho for sure

It just doesn't like downshifting under power, which is annoying but you can either lift off the power for a moment if you think a downshift is in order and it might do it, or just reselecting auto will force it to go into whatever the appropriate gear is. I mostly use this to make it shift nicely 4→3 where it would usually just struggle in 4th until falling back to 1st by default.
This is probably the main spot where a full manual trans would make a difference, when you're at the top of 3rd but would like to hold there rather than shift up and start fighting back and forth a couple seconds later when you get to the bit of road you can see coming up and will want 3rd for.

[Ayahuasca]

Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:

Originally posted by Ayahuasca:

Manual trans would let you drop tho 4-3-2-1 instead of 4 to 0 the way it currently does it......I guess the tradeoff is 3 low gears tho .....Be nice if the auto setting they have in the game responded better on downshifting tho for sure

It just doesn't like downshifting under power, which is annoying but you can either lift off the power for a moment if you think a downshift is in order and it might do it, or just reselecting auto will force it to go into whatever the appropriate gear is. I mostly use this to make it shift nicely 4→3 where it would usually just struggle in 4th until falling back to 1st by default.
This is probably the main spot where a full manual trans would make a difference, when you're at the top of 3rd but would like to hold there rather than shift up and start fighting back and forth a couple seconds later when you get to the bit of road you can see coming up and will want 3rd for.

Indeed the upshift is hellish too being able to control the shift would make the game a lot better .....I drove for 25 years in all kinds of bush situations and ya shifting up a gear when you simply canot is just a dont do

[Hitman82]

I must be playing the game wrong, I'm using an Xbox controller and manually shift between three low gears, high gear and auto gear almost constantly to keep the engine and wheels turning at the speed I want. Is that not a manual transmission? Sure it doesn't behave exactly like a real-life manual gearbox but it's close enough to get the job done and entertain you if Auto is boring.

The Xbox controller uses the left shoulder button for clutch and the right stick for a shifter. If you're coming down a hill in High or Auto and heading back into the mud or river you can hold the clutch, shift to H or L3 and pop the clutch as soon as your momentum slows from the friction of the mud. This keeps your speed and revs up to plow in and then you continue to gear down if needed. I've ground the gears but never seen any transmission damage from shifting.

Only time I touch the kb/mouse is for precise winching when I don't have the patience to go through every available winch point click-click-clicking d-pad to eventually reach the one I need. That's extremely tedious especially with longer ropes and lots of bushes between you and that big tree on the other side of the mud.

I cannot imagine playing this game with kb/mouse and leaving the transmission in Auto. I agree, that would be very boring. Fortunately I have the option to play the game wrong and it's very entertaining, especially co-op mode.

[TheLostPenguin]

Originally posted by Hitman82:

I must be playing the game wrong, I'm using an Xbox controller and manually shift between three low gears, high gear and auto gear almost constantly to keep the engine and wheels turning at the speed I want. Is that not a manual transmission? Sure it doesn't behave exactly like a real-life manual gearbox but it's close enough to get the job done and entertain you if Auto is boring.

The Xbox controller uses the left shoulder button for clutch and the right stick for a shifter. If you're coming down a hill in High or Auto and heading back into the mud or river you can hold the clutch, shift to H or L3 and pop the clutch as soon as your momentum slows from the friction of the mud. This keeps your speed and revs up to plow in and then you continue to gear down if needed. I've ground the gears but never seen any transmission damage from shifting.

Only time I touch the kb/mouse is for precise winching when I don't have the patience to go through every available winch point click-click-clicking d-pad to eventually reach the one I need. That's extremely tedious especially with longer ropes and lots of bushes between you and that big tree on the other side of the mud.

I cannot imagine playing this game with kb/mouse and leaving the transmission in Auto. I agree, that would be very boring. Fortunately I have the option to play the game wrong and it's very entertaining, especially co-op mode.

On kb/m it's shift+mouse to stir around the transmission in an awkward facsimile of a stick shifter, sounds like the same way controller is using the right stick, plus you can assign keys to select any of the options directly in one press, ie no matter what gear I'm in mouse 5 selects Low+, mouse 4 Reverse, left alt is High etc etc. So other than 3rd and 4th you have not only manual shifting but direct, instant access to ANY gear of the options available without having to run through the whole box like most game manual trans options. But apparently some people either never upgrade a single trucks transmission, or can't cope with not having full control over 3/4 on the few occasions you really care much about those gears.
Personally I'd take fixes for some of the games other issues way before worrying about shifting the last 2 gears manually.

[Ayahuasca]

Originally posted by Hitman82:

I must be playing the game wrong, I'm using an Xbox controller and manually shift between three low gears, high gear and auto gear almost constantly to keep the engine and wheels turning at the speed I want. Is that not a manual transmission? Sure it doesn't behave exactly like a real-life manual gearbox but it's close enough to get the job done and entertain you if Auto is boring.

The Xbox controller uses the left shoulder button for clutch and the right stick for a shifter. If you're coming down a hill in High or Auto and heading back into the mud or river you can hold the clutch, shift to H or L3 and pop the clutch as soon as your momentum slows from the friction of the mud. This keeps your speed and revs up to plow in and then you continue to gear down if needed. I've ground the gears but never seen any transmission damage from shifting.

Only time I touch the kb/mouse is for precise winching when I don't have the patience to go through every available winch point click-click-clicking d-pad to eventually reach the one I need. That's extremely tedious especially with longer ropes and lots of bushes between you and that big tree on the other side of the mud.

I cannot imagine playing this game with kb/mouse and leaving the transmission in Auto. I agree, that would be very boring. Fortunately I have the option to play the game wrong and it's very entertaining, especially co-op mode.

Its still "Clunky" doing it this way is all I do the same but does it feel right? NO

[Hitman82]

Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:

On kb/m it's shift+mouse to stir around the transmission in an awkward facsimile of a stick shifter, sounds like the same way controller is using the right stick, plus you can assign keys to select any of the options directly in one press, ie no matter what gear I'm in mouse 5 selects Low+, mouse 4 Reverse, left alt is High etc etc. So other than 3rd and 4th you have not only manual shifting but direct, instant access to ANY gear of the options available without having to run through the whole box like most game manual trans options. But apparently some people either never upgrade a single trucks transmission, or can't cope with not having full control over 3/4 on the few occasions you really care much about those gears.
Personally I'd take fixes for some of the games other issues way before worrying about shifting the last 2 gears manually.

Ahh I'd never tried it like that, thanks for sharing. I agree, many other fixes I'd rather see first especially with several options available for shifting. I downshift from Auto to High going up hill all the time, Auto is just as sloppy as cruise control IRL. Speaking of, wouldn't a cruise control be nice when spending 10 minutes in L2 crossing a mud field because it's night and you don't want to haul logs through the woods in the dark to avoid the mud? :)