i hope you give game free for epic owners!!!!!!!!!

[Truckercech]

i want to have it here.. on best platform with myfriends to play it... i have game nearly a year on epic... played maybe 4 hours...coz nobody want to be playing on epic and we want it in our steam library with our playtime progres!

[hitman02in]

Origineel geplaatst door 老泡菜:

Origineel geplaatst door mendel:

If you want to be really picky, then Steam is a digital distribution platform, and the dozen sites that sell you Steam keys are store fronts for it?

But Epic is not selling Steam keys, never has, probably never will, unless Steam reduces their cut.

Well the keys outside of the store are not charged by steam and generated by the publisher anyways.

Still it's the same platform.

if you think steam isnt getting their cut from those sales then you are mistaken. a publisher can only generate as much keys for their game on steam as permitted by steam (with or without charges)

@ mendel - no one needs epic to sell steam keys. because any game available from both steam and epic cannot be cheaper on epic because of steam EULA.

[Plumpeach]

Well you can read this info about keys, among other stuff, as they offer the information openly (SHOCK). There isn't a hard limit meaning basically if they see an extreme amount requested they can deny. Good and bad there. You can't give worse deals like mentioned. Yet the money doesn't go to steam.

I honestly have no idea what yea trying to argue. Just saying PC is the platform while the stores are on it. I honestly don't want the 90s PC gaming to come back, it almost died then. That is my only concern. Sure if actual competition kicks up I am all for it as well. I really only use 2.5 stores on PC.

[hitman02in]

Origineel geplaatst door 老泡菜:

Well you can read this info about keys, among other stuff, as they offer the information openly (SHOCK). There isn't a hard limit meaning basically if they see an extreme amount requested they can deny. Good and bad there. You can't give worse deals like mentioned. Yet the money doesn't go to steam.

I honestly have no idea what yea trying to argue. Just saying PC is the platform while the stores are on it. I honestly don't want the 90s PC gaming to come back, it almost died then. That is my only concern. Sure if actual competition kicks up I am all for it as well. I really only use 2.5 stores on PC.

im not trying to argue at all - i just added some info to the mix - that steam does not allow unlimited keys to be generated and sold. they do have full control over this. and they can fine-tune it as they see fit.

[☣Valtorde☣]

Origineel geplaatst door Truckercech:

i want to have it here.. on best platform with myfriends to play it... i have game nearly a year on epic... played maybe 4 hours...coz nobody want to be playing on epic and we want it in our steam library with our playtime progres!

No, shouldnt have bought it on epic. Your loss

[☣Valtorde☣]

Origineel geplaatst door buder28:

i hope there is atleast a loyalty discount :S

imo people who bought it on epic should pay even more on steam

[Bobby]

Origineel geplaatst door Allozorro:

It will not happen. I don't know about the loyalty discount (like it was with Mudrunner), but there will definitely not be a free transfer of the game.
I see no objective reason to re-purchase the game if it has already been purchased. The only difference that can be judged from the description on the SnowRunner's page is the presence of achievements.

There’s several instances of games sold on steam that get remade by a different dev/publisher and they either don’t get a discount or it’s paltry.

Take RTW I own it on CD (I have my key) and I own RTW2 and many others on steam, but I don’t qualify for a discount on RTW remastered. People are angry etc. They advertise the remaster on the RTW2 news forum...
I wouldn’t expect a discount from one platform to the next. Only if it was say, EA Games as an independent publisher would I expect some sort of loyalty discount if they resold on steam/epic etc. But it’s not mandatory.

Mass Effect is another prime example. I own them all but Origin is dilly dallying while steam offers a discount if it’s on steam, yet it’s still an EA Origins game. It’s just daft all round.

[Bobby]

Origineel geplaatst door ☣Valtorde☣:

Origineel geplaatst door buder28:

i hope there is atleast a loyalty discount :S

imo people who bought it on epic should pay even more on steam

I think since people on steam never bought it on Epic and steam takes a bigger cut, it has to be more expensive for steam buyers. That’s logical to make up the 30% that steam takes Versus the 18% that Epic take.

That’s that sorted!

[Jillas]

Origineel geplaatst door Brian the Snail:

Origineel geplaatst door ☣Valtorde☣:

imo people who bought it on epic should pay even more on steam

I think since people on steam never bought it on Epic and steam takes a bigger cut, it has to be more expensive for steam buyers. That’s logical to make up the 30% that steam takes Versus the 18% that Epic take.

That’s that sorted!

Sadly it can't be done, Valve won't allow that, as well as they won't allow making the game cheaper due to other store's lower cut - https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/381110/Wolfire_Games_founder_I_had_no_choice_but_to_file_Steam_antitrust_lawsuit_against_Valve.php

[Hidden Rellik]

lol no that's your own fault. Just buy it twice like me who bought on xbox because Epic is garbage been holding out for Steam release and plan on purchasing all content here. I wish we could see info of to date Epic sales and steam day one sales. I expect there were a lot of hold-outs like myself waiting for steam release

[Bobby]

Origineel geplaatst door Jillas:

Origineel geplaatst door Brian the Snail:

I think since people on steam never bought it on Epic and steam takes a bigger cut, it has to be more expensive for steam buyers. That’s logical to make up the 30% that steam takes Versus the 18% that Epic take.

That’s that sorted!

Sadly it can't be done, Valve won't allow that, as well as they won't allow making the game cheaper due to other store's lower cut - https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/381110/Wolfire_Games_founder_I_had_no_choice_but_to_file_Steam_antitrust_lawsuit_against_Valve.php

Interesting what goes on behind the scenes, eh?

Have a look at this one
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/microsoft-store-to-match-epic-games-stores-88-cut-for-game-developers-should-steam-follow-suit

[Bobby]

Origineel geplaatst door Hidden Rellik:

lol no that's your own fault. Just buy it twice like me who bought on xbox because Epic is garbage been holding out for Steam release and plan on purchasing all content here. I wish we could see info of to date Epic sales and steam day one sales. I expect there were a lot of hold-outs like myself waiting for steam release

Who really cares? Steam take 30% off the Dev, while Epic only take 18%.

It needs to sell a helluva lot more for the dev to make up the steam loss, while steam coins it in

As of November last year, SR had sold 1.5 million copies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/jwmi3w/snowrunner_has_sold_15_million_copies_since_its/

Btw, gabe newell (Valve) hints at more games coming to console.

So you better keep your Eggbox
https://www.ggmania.com/?smsid=gabe-newell-hints-at-more-games-for-consoles-52839#.YJw6yS14Wf0

[mendel]

Origineel geplaatst door Brian the Snail:

I think since people on steam never bought it on Epic and steam takes a bigger cut, it has to be more expensive for steam buyers. That’s logical to make up the 30% that steam takes Versus the 18% that Epic take.

Epic actually only takes 12% and pays out 88%.
See https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/about

[Bobby]

Origineel geplaatst door mendel:

Origineel geplaatst door Brian the Snail:

I think since people on steam never bought it on Epic and steam takes a bigger cut, it has to be more expensive for steam buyers. That’s logical to make up the 30% that steam takes Versus the 18% that Epic take.

Epic actually only takes 12% and pays out 88%.
See https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/about

My bad.
That’s amazing when you think of the size of steam and the fact it has no competition. I did read that steam drops to something like 25% when a game starts making a profit of 10 million. So if your in the CoD league then that’s fine. Everyone else tough

[hitman02in]

Origineel geplaatst door Brian the Snail:

Origineel geplaatst door mendel:

Epic actually only takes 12% and pays out 88%.
See https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/about

My bad.
That’s amazing when you think of the size of steam and the fact it has no competition. I did read that steam drops to something like 25% when a game starts making a profit of 10 million. So if your in the CoD league then that’s fine. Everyone else tough

steam takes 30% at start. 24% after 1st milestone and 18% after 2nd milestone.
the milestone figures i forgot. but that info is easily available on the internet.

[Plumpeach]

You can find information about what steam does openly.

Not this propaganda you get from Epic where the only way you get actual data is from their pretty poor security, leaked court documents.