what do you think about this game

[CalicoJack]

(besides the best WRC titles created by Evolution Studios for PS2)
i have WRC4 from Milestone and WRC5, 7, 8 from Kylotonn and there was always a notable difference in driving physics from one game to another.
i think the Kylotonn games got better with each new title, right? "just looking at you, stinkin WRC5, where i could steer the car while in the air, hahaha"

i dont know about WRC9 but im interested in WRC10 now. how are the physics compared to the other Kylotonn games?
is the multiplayer still active?
is it worth the full price?
or should i just wait for the next installment? maybe even for 2023 when Codemasters gets its hands on the WRC licence,

[CalicoJack]

oh, i forgot to ask about the most important aspect.
can i trust the co-drivers readings?!!?

thanks

[DannyMeller]

I was like you, a few months ago debating whether to hold off until WRC11 or buy this one, Especially as I really want to the drive the new Ford Puma Rally 1 in game (I'm so sick of Fiestas at this point), in the end I found WRC10 on offer and pulled the trigger.

I'm really happy with it. My last game was WRC6 and they've fixed most of the issues I had with that game. I've found the game does lack a level of polish and attention to detail tho. Just small nitpicks that would make the experience a lot better.
I think we're at the halfway point now till the next one comes out so I'd probably recommend trying to find the game on offer if you want it.

I haven't tried multiplayer yet so I can't comment on that.

The co drivers are a lot better than they use to be in old WRC games. They still make a few calls I don't agree with sometimes, its mostly corners that are somewhere between 3 and 4's. There's also a few hidden rocks on corner apex's where a 'do not cut' should have been.
There's this 'immersive co driver' option where he'll make happy remarks if you hit a green sector or comment if you've made a mistake. I didn't like this at all, so I turned it off, which also turns off the co drivers count down at the start of the stage too, which is annoying.

I think if you enjoy the Dirt series, you'll probably best waiting for EA's version. I imagine they'll just put a WRC skin on its Dirt engine.

[BluesyMoo]

It's fundamentally a good game, but you need very high tolerance for bugs / glitches to not rage quit.

[Mrexcitement68]

WRC 10 is definitely worth getting it's the best WRC so far , damn good fun and a massive adrenaline rush.

[CalicoJack]

i have reinstalled WRC8 and it seems like the co-driver wants me to crash with wrong notes or a too slow reading pace.
i think that was the reason i stopped playing it. same problem with the other Kylotonn titles before. you had to learn the stages to be competitive, which afaik is not in the spirit of rally driving.

is it the same in WRC10?

[Sakana]

Originally posted by CalicoJack:

i have reinstalled WRC8 and it seems like the co-driver wants me to crash with wrong notes or a too slow reading pace.
i think that was the reason i stopped playing it. same problem with the other Kylotonn titles before. you had to learn the stages to be competitive, which afaik is not in the spirit of rally driving.

is it the same in WRC10?

have you tried changing the timing of the calls in the game setting?

Also, speaking of "learning the stages", that is the most common complaint for all the stage rally games out there, which "unlike real world driver, where they solely rely on pace notes to compete". But are they really?

I mean, before the rally, the driver and co-driver need to inspect the stages once in order to make the pace notes. And they might need to adjust those when they headed back to the hotel with the car cam footages.

Granted they won't really feel the stages with their hands and foot, and they don't have much time to rewatch the car cam footages, but at least they have some visual memories, that can help them to be on the same page when the pace notes are called. Isn't that learning the stage?

some reference video clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCRknOcoPUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6uK3lXIQI

[CalicoJack]

Originally posted by Sakana:

have you tried changing the timing of the calls in the game setting?

yup

Originally posted by Sakana:

Also, speaking of "learning the stages", that is the most common complaint for all the stage rally games out there, which "unlike real world driver, where they solely rely on pace notes to compete". But are they really?

yup, really.
even if there are exceptions, rally is rally and not trackracing.
therefore i want a trustworthy co-driver =)

RBR was the only game i can think of that did it very well, and if i remember right it even gave me 2 different types of the reading to chose.
i like pacenotes from the WRC titles by Evolution Studios too but they also sometimes F me up with the timing, haha.

Edit: its been some time but i believe that Mobil 1 Rally Championship 2000 on PC does also quite a good job with the pacenotes! this game is especially great because it has rallye stages that can last up to more than half an hour. day, night, rain, snow, ice, gravel, asphalt... just awesome!

[Sakana]

Originally posted by CalicoJack:

Originally posted by Sakana:

have you tried changing the timing of the calls in the game setting?

yup

Originally posted by Sakana:

Also, speaking of "learning the stages", that is the most common complaint for all the stage rally games out there, which "unlike real world driver, where they solely rely on pace notes to compete". But are they really?

yup, really.
even if there are exceptions, rally is rally and not trackracing.
therefore i want a trustworthy co-driver =)

RBR was the only game i can think of that did it very well, and if i remember right it even gave me 2 different types of the reading to chose.
i like pacenotes from the WRC titles by Evolution Studios too but they also sometimes F me up with the timing, haha.

Edit: its been some time but i believe that Mobil 1 Rally Championship 2000 on PC does also quite a good job with the pacenotes! this game is especially great because it has rallye stages that can last up to more than half an hour. day, night, rain, snow, ice, gravel, asphalt... just awesome!

until custom pace notes becomes a thing, I don't think there won't be a set of pace notes that will suit everyone. As shown in the official WRC video about pace notes, Each driver's pace notes are tailor made just for himself.

Personally, I don't think the pace note is that bad? Then again, I am someone as you might called a "stage learner" type of driver, so I shouldn't comment too much on that

[Sharp]

If you are looking something simulate the rally driving and planning to play it with wheel,
it is a bit failiure, ffb and physics are not eligable to suit long and narrow tracks, far from real experience, I tried many times with many different FFB settings but nothing comes close to the simulation level, if you not owned already the Dirt 2 is much more better overall package,
I uninstalled both and Playin RBR only with hu plugin.

[Quellu]

damn crap

[Mazz]

is total ♥♥♥♥ not a good game is really crap

[jasonbarron]

Is it possible to get it set up where an xbox controller is a functional option for high end racing or is it too funky?

[Paradox1126]

I just got it due to the sale. Gotta say, initial impressions aren't good. I'm really digging into dirt 2.0 and so I'm on a rally kick (always been my most favorite racing) and so I said why not and added wrc to the list.

If I had to use a word I would say serviceable. The sounds, ffb, and feel of the car just didn't grab me. I want to stay with it cause I do see some charm in the game but I'm hoping I'll get some enjoyment out of it.

Also to note.. I haven't messed with my ffb settings to much. It's all on default and seems rather lackluster. At this point I've only been through the menus and ran two stages. Looking to drive some more this weekend.

Would love to hear some comparisons to players who have a decent amount of time in both wrc and dirt 2. Also if anyone has all achievements would love to heard about that as well.

[SaxonRaider]

Originally posted by jasonbarron:

Is it possible to get it set up where an xbox controller is a functional option for high end racing or is it too funky?

not sure about high end so much, but to get it to feel more like DR2.0 you have to turn the sentitivity down as far as the game allows, then the steering is slow enough to be manageable. wouldve been nice if it had just one or 2 more notches down really.

[SaxonRaider]

Originally posted by Paradox1126:

I just got it due to the sale. Gotta say, initial impressions aren't good. I'm really digging into dirt 2.0 and so I'm on a rally kick (always been my most favorite racing) and so I said why not and added wrc to the list.

If I had to use a word I would say serviceable. The sounds, ffb, and feel of the car just didn't grab me. I want to stay with it cause I do see some charm in the game but I'm hoping I'll get some enjoyment out of it.

Also to note.. I haven't messed with my ffb settings to much. It's all on default and seems rather lackluster. At this point I've only been through the menus and ran two stages. Looking to drive some more this weekend.

Would love to hear some comparisons to players who have a decent amount of time in both wrc and dirt 2. Also if anyone has all achievements would love to heard about that as well.

700 hours in dr2 but just got this yesterday, a thing that i notice that is far inferior is the damage model. while its possible to get good visual body damage, mechanically, theres hardly any damage at all compared to dr2, and in fact, you can just bounce off walls to get faster stage times knowing theres no penalty. this to me is a big minus, but, so far im really enjoying it, and think its a very worthy rally game.