What are "extensive repairs"?

[Reiker]

I just finished the first mission and I'm a bit confused.

All of the parts on my car are a bit damaged, but nothing seems to require a maintenance item (sealing kit etc).

The description of the repair putty makes it seem like I'm not supposed to be using it:

"When you don't have the time or the resources to perform extensive repairs, this is the spit-and-tape solution that will carry you through and fix up the worst of things."

So how do I make these "extensive repairs"?

[KyrenCross]

If you look at a part and there is a yellow icon in it. Then you need to use the Sealing kit. Also try scanning parts
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[Reiker]

Right, when I scan the parts it shows a durability bar. One part might be at say 30% durability, and another might be at 50% durability. One part needed a sealing kit, which I used. Nothing else says it needs a sealing kit.

Using repair putty sets the durability to 100%, so it seems like that's what I'm supposed to be doing, so why does the repair putty's description make it seem like I should be doing something else ("extensive repairs")?

[Jocosity]

I'm not 100% sure, but it might have to do with part fatigue? There's a tutorial explaining that repairing the same part can only go so far and eventually fatigue will make the part more permanently damaged, so extensive repairs would presumably be replacing the part entirely.

[Martinusack]

Publicado originalmente por Reiker:

Right, when I scan the parts it shows a durability bar. One part might be at say 30% durability, and another might be at 50% durability. One part needed a sealing kit, which I used. Nothing else says it needs a sealing kit.

Using repair putty sets the durability to 100%, so it seems like that's what I'm supposed to be doing, so why does the repair putty's description make it seem like I should be doing something else ("extensive repairs")?

Because the panels have 2 bars:
white one - the part is ok
red one - the part is higly damaged
so if your parts have this read bar you either have to scrap it or use putty to save it and thats why i think using the putty on parts counts in to "extensive repairs"

[Reiker]

None of the bars are red.

Not really getting a clear answer here so I'll try to ask a different way. What is the method to repair the vehicle besides repair putty?

[DragynDance]

A lot of the info here is incorrect. This game has a lot of ambiguous flavor text for item descriptions. Including putty, most of that nonsense doesn't matter. You just use it to repair. You can use it as the only repair item at all if you really want. The only downside to the putty is it's inefficient, IE if your door is only 20% damage, you still have to use an entire use of putty. If a part is damaged past the red bar, then you have to replace, no repair item will work, not erven the higher tier ones. Later on you unlock blow torches that instead of having uses, they have durability. And you basically "channel" the blowtorch and it repairs the part over time, at the cost of torch durability, this is more efficient as you won't have to wait till the part is more damaged so as not to waste putty, potentially putting the part at risk, or "overheal" the part by using putty on a low damage part.

The info about mechanical/sealing/light replacement kits/etc are all correct though. Sometimes a part just randomly malfunctions (I've even had it happen to a parked car in the garage before, so it seems to just be chance based, not damaged based) and when it malfunctions, you have to scan it and use the proper kit to repair the fault.

[sanitystream]

I'm confused on this point too. I'm getting a "Vehicle Health Empty" warning even though every part is 100% or close to it.
Is vehicle health something other than the sum of all its parts?

[Techbane #FreeHK]

Publicado originalmente por Reiker:

None of the bars are red.

Not really getting a clear answer here so I'll try to ask a different way. What is the method to repair the vehicle besides repair putty?

As far as I can tell, there isn't, with the exception of a machine you unlock a bit later on that sounds like it will repair parts you leave in it while you're out on another run. For now your options are to use repair putty, or rip off the part and install a new one. For the record, I haven't yet seen any indications that long-term damage actually accumulates on anything; I've been using the same hood and headlight that the car came with throughout many, many applications of putty and they still seem fine.

Also worth noting that putty seems to work specifically by repairing a certain number of durability points, rather than a percentage; the cruddy makeshift doors and plates you start with can be repaired pretty much fully with one slather of the stuff, but a summer tire only recovers about 20% of its durability from one application.

[Reiker]

Yeah I noticed that the engine recovers very little durability from the repair putty which made me think I was supposed to be doing something else.

[Dreik]

Publicado originalmente por Reiker:

I just finished the first mission and I'm a bit confused.

All of the parts on my car are a bit damaged, but nothing seems to require a maintenance item (sealing kit etc).

The description of the repair putty makes it seem like I'm not supposed to be using it:

"When you don't have the time or the resources to perform extensive repairs, this is the spit-and-tape solution that will carry you through and fix up the worst of things."

So how do I make these "extensive repairs"?

Publicado originalmente por Reiker:

I just finished the first mission and I'm a bit confused.

All of the parts on my car are a bit damaged, but nothing seems to require a maintenance item (sealing kit etc).

The description of the repair putty makes it seem like I'm not supposed to be using it:

"When you don't have the time or the resources to perform extensive repairs, this is the spit-and-tape solution that will carry you through and fix up the worst of things."

So how do I make these "extensive repairs"?

Insert the doors, bumpers and the task will be completed

[jR78]

Publicado originalmente por DragynDance:

A lot of the info here is incorrect. This game has a lot of ambiguous flavor text for item descriptions. Including putty, most of that nonsense doesn't matter. You just use it to repair. You can use it as the only repair item at all if you really want. The only downside to the putty is it's inefficient, IE if your door is only 20% damage, you still have to use an entire use of putty.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think all (!) Items suffer fatigue. The more you repair them with putty or the likes (blowtorch), the more the item becomes fatigued leading to a tiny X on it, so you have to replace the part.

If that happens, not even the "refresher-thingy" can repair the part.

I don't know if the repair station later on can refresh fatigue, but I guess not. So you will always have to replace your parts at some point.

Even tools, like the water-energy converter or wind-energy converter will become "unreliable" and stop working eventually.

So yeah, you can fix things, but the "extensive" repair, or replacing a part is inevitable.

That's my understanding at least after 30+ hours.

[starrborrn]

flat tires, cracked windows , shorted headlights etc need the repair kits (ie electricians, mechanics, etc) any OTHER DAMAGE like durability is repaired using the REPAIR PUTTY, what can not be repaired is when the car part aquires a state known as "fragility" it can still be repaired but will break down faster and faster until it trashes itself an you have to scrap it and make a new part.

[Elkee]

Just to clear this up as a comment like star borns isn't entirely correct.

Repair putty repairs a huge amount of damage but if you have the repair station you can put said parts in for repair and when you return from a run they will be repaired. But repair putty is expensive and not viable if say you only have like 25% damage, You should consider a blow torch you can use it as little or as much as you need and it works for say 5 minutes continuous use (it could be less than that).
Materials are easier sourced to make the blowtorch instead of putty.

[starrborrn]

blow torch is great once they finally have marsh eggs , but since there are none until you cross the first wall, repair putty is your goto and it takes mats yu can get in any zone , anywhere.

[Mattrex]

Publicado originalmente por Reiker:

Yeah I noticed that the engine recovers very little durability from the repair putty which made me think I was supposed to be doing something else.

The engine recovers the same amount of durability from repair putty as every other part does. The difference is that doors and panels usually have about 50 HP, while engines have 400-500 HP. So one use of the putty zooms through a door's entire bar, but only nudges the engine's bar a little bit, despite healing the same amount.