Ruin The Fun (A Warning)

[NowThenGoodBad]

After several hundred hours of playing, and almost all of the achievements, I decided to get the achievement for "cheating".

You can load the dev console by finding the following if statement and copying what I have here (others have also posted this).

// if (DEV) win.webContents.openDevTools();
win.webContents.openDevTools();

I wasn't sure what to try among the dev tools since I was enjoying being immersed in the game and I wanted the achievement but didn't want to actually ruin the fun of Cookie Clicker. After trying one of the dragon buffs, I got super curious about what Ruin the Fun would do...

....aaaaand just like a cat curious about what's in a gap between the wall and bed, I dove right in and regretted it. No backing out now, just this yelp for help.

WARNING

Ruin the Fun literally unlocks everything and, at least for myself, genuinely did ruin the fun.

I think that I'll be taking a break from CC for a bit. Fantastic game. Enjoy the mechanics, challenge, curiosity, and achievements. However, a disclaimer with that button (or me being smarter and doing more research) would probably be really helpful.

Thank you devs for this Awesome Addictive game. Thank you Community for making it even more Fantastic!

Edit: I didn't realize that this became a combined AMA and Witch Hunt, but here we are.

The point of this discussion post is to warn genuine achievement hunters, as well as players who enjoy the patient progression, that if you click that button it will give you everything. It unlocks everything in game AND achievements. After 277 hours getting over 500 of the achievements, it was a massive bummer to suddenly have the rest unlocked.

There are a total of 2 achievements where I got them in a dubious way

1. Stanley Parable - Go Outside

2. Cookie Clicker - (everything that was unlocked after clicking that button)

I consider the second one an "on the fence" cheat. I did not achieve them the way that I had meant to or hope to. I really wish that I had searched online before clicking "ruin the fun".

However, Nelly and Chansu, you're just wrong. Chansu, I already laid out proof about the Supraland achievements. That game is incredibly fun, why would I ruin that? Nelly, you're just a troll.

As far as other achievements which the devs require you to mess around with the game files (Stanley Parable has one, and there are other games that do too), if the developer of the game intended you to do that in order to get the achievement, then is that cheating? It's literally what they set as the condition to flag that you have done the given task.

Lastly, there are easy games that I haven't 100'ed, help me understand why I haven't cheated those yet?


To bring this back on point:

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE FUN OF COOKIE CLICKER, DON'T BE DUMB LIKE ME AND CURIOUSLY CLICK THE BUTTON THAT LITERALLY SAYS "RUIN THE FUN"

That's all, thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Edit 2: An Open Challenge

HaHA, alright, for those in this thread who think that people who get perfect games are cheating to do so, including me, I challenge you. When Supraland Six Inches under comes out, the first person out of us to 100% WITHOUT CHEATING will get a game under $100 USD

In order to be part of this competition, you have to comment back here to let me know that you are in on it. You also have to pitch in some contribution for the winner, regardless of who it is. Maybe steam wallet money, bitcoin, a game, you name it. However, if you say that you will participate and then you don't pitch in for the prize, then we will name and shame you and find some appropriate repercussion, because disingenuously joining and then not contributing WOULD be cheating. But be warned: if you join this, be ready to go hard.

Edit 3: A Closed Challenge

Hmm Trolls just wanted to troll. We will not be hosting the Six Inches Under competition since no one responded to it. So much for achievement hunters.

[isomatiKa]

Hello! I activated the dev console but I didn't know it would disable my Steam Achievements... Is there any way to get them back? :(

[SuD-]

Originally posted by 76561198148684771:

Hello! I activated the dev console but I didn't know it would disable my Steam Achievements... Is there any way to get them back? :(

For me, just restart the game and my achievements activated. Disable console before restarting

[Nelly]

Originally posted by NowThenGoodBad:

After several hundred hours of playing

Dude stfu. Everyone can see that you get achievments that arent possible to get without cheating.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by NowThenGoodBad:

After several hundred hours of playing

Dude stfu. Everyone can see that you get achievments that arent possible to get without cheating.

You are aware one can actually import their save from the other version of this game into this game, right?

Exactly which one of his achievements is only doable by cheating?

[Nelly]

Originally posted by davidb11:

Originally posted by Nelly:

Dude stfu. Everyone can see that you get achievments that arent possible to get without cheating.

You are aware one can actually import their save from the other version of this game into this game, right?

Yes ofc. Are you aware that OP has 100% achievments in alot of games?

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by davidb11:

You are aware one can actually import their save from the other version of this game into this game, right?

Yes ofc. Are you aware that OP has 100% achievments in alot of games?

So what ?

[davidb11]

Having a lot of 100% achievements in games isn't a sign of cheating.
THat makes no sense to claim.

The only way that works is if they have achievements that are completely broken and cannot be gotten without SAM.

[snark]

There technically is a way to back out. You can use third party tools to relock your Steam achievements.

[Chansu Ragedashi]

Originally posted by Schrute_Farms_B&B:

Originally posted by Nelly:

Yes ofc. Are you aware that OP has 100% achievments in alot of games?

So what ?

Originally posted by davidb11:

Having a lot of 100% achievements in games isn't a sign of cheating.
THat makes no sense to claim.

The only way that works is if they have achievements that are completely broken and cannot be gotten without SAM.

so i can't confirm that they have cheated on 'ALL' of their 100% games, but stanley parable was '100% completed' in only 3 day.... that is literally impossible because one achievement requires you to "cheat" it in (it's a tongue in cheek joke with the devs patching out how to get it every few months back when the game was popular) but the dead-to-rights proof that OP cheated the games achievements is that he achieved "go outside" literally a day after several other achievements and it requires that you not log in for 5 years.

and if you need more proof that OP is cheating in some achievements: supraland added the DLC1 achievements in may, however the preview of the DLC for kickstarter backers didn't start until june. and the full release for the DLC wasn't until later in the month... OP has the DLC 1 achievements in may...

so actually Nelly is right that OP did in fact cheat in several achievements that were impossible to get in the time span he played these specific games without cheating.


of course this has no actual real-world meaning except to show that OP has gained some of his invisible online stickers without earning them.

[davidb11]

Okay. I thought Nelly was claiming he cheated in this game's achievements.

Fair enough about the Stanley Parable one.

[NowThenGoodBad]

Originally posted by Chansu Ragedashi:

Originally posted by Schrute_Farms_B&B:

So what ?

Originally posted by davidb11:

Having a lot of 100% achievements in games isn't a sign of cheating.
THat makes no sense to claim.

The only way that works is if they have achievements that are completely broken and cannot be gotten without SAM.

so i can't confirm that they have cheated on 'ALL' of their 100% games, but stanley parable was '100% completed' in only 3 day.... that is literally impossible because one achievement requires you to "cheat" it in (it's a tongue in cheek joke with the devs patching out how to get it every few months back when the game was popular) but the dead-to-rights proof that OP cheated the games achievements is that he achieved "go outside" literally a day after several other achievements and it requires that you not log in for 5 years.

and if you need more proof that OP is cheating in some achievements: supraland added the DLC1 achievements in may, however the preview of the DLC for kickstarter backers didn't start until june. and the full release for the DLC wasn't until later in the month... OP has the DLC 1 achievements in may...

so actually Nelly is right that OP did in fact cheat in several achievements that were impossible to get in the time span he played these specific games without cheating.


of course this has no actual real-world meaning except to show that OP has gained some of his invisible online stickers without earning them.

Supraland Crash DLC was launched in July 2020

I bought it in May 2021 and got the achievements after a binge on the game. Finding the last Waldo was HARD.

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For the record, here is the list of achievements that I have cheated on:

1. Stanley Parable - I didn't care to wait years for an achievement

2. Cookie Clicker - This was 100% accidental and what this post is about

For Cookie Clicker I had in the 500's of the achievements and I went for the dev console achievement and that red outlined "ruin the fun" button just made me too damn curious. I should have done some research online. However, when everything started unlocking I knew that it was too late. Since the button is literally to unlock everything (and thus all of the achievements) I would say that for the average gamer, they shouldn't feel too bad about that. However, I have mixed feelings about the validity of the achievements that it unlocked for me. In hindsight, I should have waited for that to be the last one to unlock, but I am going to leave it as is.

I work hard for my perfect games and wouldn't waste my time if I was going to spend it all cheating for achievements. Shoot, if I was going to cheat achievements then I really suck at it, because in a decade and a half on steam and I have less than 100 perfect games?

Sadly, I found out that the Zup games are just achievement hording games (which is why you see that I didn't finish the series even though they're kind of fun). That's not what I'm about. I don't want to click and get 10 achievements. I want to do something, even mildly interesting or challenging: stumble across a random rune, find a set of journal entries, poke my nose somewhere where I shouldn't but the devs give a reward for my curiosity.

If YOU want to cheat for achievements, that's up to you. I was not going to wait for the Stanley Parable one. The 1 year run in Cookie Clicker would have been bearable and I already did something like that in order to get the final achievement in Mountain but I messed the CC one up by clicking on that stupid button. (my curiosity and ignorance are really to blame) However, I don't want to cheat myself on the challenge of enjoying what a dev has created as a challenge or other thing to achieve.

You are wrong about the Supraland achievements. Those took work. It's a really fun game and worth 100%'ing. Go buy it. Six Inches Under comes out in december AND I WILL RACE YOU to see who will 100% it first.

Nelly, Chansu, David, Schrute, and Maria, Whoever of you beats me to 100% Six Inches Under, I will buy your top gaming pick under $100 USD.

What will you give me if I win?

[NowThenGoodBad]

Originally posted by maria magdalena:

There technically is a way to back out. You can use third party tools to relock your Steam achievements.

Thank you, that's good to know. I don't use 3rd party tools to mess with my games. I thought that steam had some internal way to reset achievements but I'm on the fence on the validity of those that I got from clicking the "Ruin The Fun" button.

Originally, I was bothered by the people who had just gotten the game on steam and unlocked every achievement (even those that wouldn't be possible for days or years) but then this happened and I realized that maybe they accidentally did the same thing. I feel like I got to experience CC pretty fully and I am satisfied with that. Thank you for the tip!

[NowThenGoodBad]

Originally posted by isomatiKa:

Hello! I activated the dev console but I didn't know it would disable my Steam Achievements... Is there any way to get them back? :(

Someone out there gives a way to activate the console without disabling achievements. Honestly, the only reason to do that is to get the achievement specific to using the console to "cheat". But I HIGHLY don't recommend clicking the "Ruin The Fun" button. I was on a good solid run and chewing my way through the achievements and got too curious. If you really want to end your sugar craze, that might be a way to do it. I was definitely bummed though.


Edit: Here's the post: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2602063672

[NowThenGoodBad]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by davidb11:

You are aware one can actually import their save from the other version of this game into this game, right?

Yes ofc. Are you aware that OP has 100% achievments in alot of games?

Nelly, I hate to break it to you but if you're implying that having 100% achievements in a lot of games means something, then what it means is that some of us actually try to get all of the achievements in games.

It's not an easy thing to do. Try that Superliminal speedrun or the final achievement in Mountain. Grinding out those stupid coins in Biped or finding every last item in Grow Up. Shoot, I had to play through Superliminal maybe 100 times because the dev reduced the required speedrun time and changed the levels slightly from the way that they originally were. It was pretty hard.

If you're running around assuming that EVERYONE that has perfect games is cheating, you're just cheating yourself.

The fact that you care is also a bit sad.

The Stanley Parable 5 year achievement was the single one that I deliberately bypassed. All others that I have are legit and were a lot of fun to get.

[Missiletoad]

i have no idea what "ruin the fun" button you're talking about, i do not intend to ever use mods or stuff like that, so i probably never will see that button, but thanks for caring and warning us :)
now stop feeling like you need to reply to all these people, i'm sure you have better things to do than argueing on the internent with strangers, you've said enough, we appreciate your TED talk *flies away*