Dragon auras

[Cheese King]

Are Breath of Milk and Radiant Appetite still the best auras for highest CPS boost for afk playing or is Dragon Guts now better to have?

[Mist of Majora]

I just came here to confirm this myself, but I'm guessing it depends where you are in the game and what kind of 'build' you have.

For instance, I've filled in a good part of the ascension tree and have Wrinkler boosts from there too, so I'm currently pairing Radiant Appetite and Dragon Guts for my afk playing (still have yet to fully test DG against BoM though - I might have an answer tomorrow though).

Two things though, I'm not so sure I'd take Dragon Guts if you haven't ascended yet.

And more importantly, I've just tested Radiant Appetite against Breath of Milk with 525 achievements, and Radiant Appetite is still better at this point in time (I'm guessing that may change if I ever get 2-4 more milk flavors)

[All talk and no fight]

Currently at 673 upgrades, 126 heavenly upgrades, and 591 achievments.
for max CPS from crumblor, Radiant Appetite and Elder Battalion are the way to go. Yes, Elder battalion beats out breath of Milk in the laaaaaaate game

[Mist of Majora]

Originally posted by All talk and no fight:

Currently at 673 upgrades, 126 heavenly upgrades, and 591 achievments.
for max CPS from crumblor, Radiant Appetite and Elder Battalion are the way to go. Yes, Elder battalion beats out breath of Milk in the laaaaaaate game

Great info - I would have never even looked at Elder Batalion again if not for this comment.

I'm currently testing out max wrinklers with Skruuia (I know this doesn't need to be taken until you want to 'cash in', but I'm out of swaps so I'm testing it anyways lol) and Dragon God just to see what kind of benefit it gives, but you're probably gonna be right in the end haha.

Edit: I've been testing out the new Dragon GUTS not God - ugh I can't believe I got them confused :/

[jieyu]

Originally posted by All talk and no fight:

Currently at 673 upgrades, 126 heavenly upgrades, and 591 achievments.
for max CPS from crumblor, Radiant Appetite and Elder Battalion are the way to go. Yes, Elder battalion beats out breath of Milk in the laaaaaaate game

just tested for myself, you are right! thanks
probably due to the new 'clone grandmas' upgrade?

[Stripey]

I'm not a math guy but I feel like Radiant Appetite + Dragon Guts might be the new way to go for pure idling. Just looking at the numbers it seems to offer more cookies overall over Radiant Appetite + Breath of Milk/Elder Battalion.

Anyone can confirm?

[MadArkael]

Originally posted by Stripey:

I'm not a math guy but I feel like Radiant Appetite + Dragon Guts might be the new way to go for pure idling. Just looking at the numbers it seems to offer more cookies overall over Radiant Appetite + Breath of Milk/Elder Battalion.

Anyone can confirm?

How does digest factor in?
How does explode factor in?
are these simple multipliers. I would think digest would be multiplicative across the number of wrinklers, and explode just is a 20% multiplier to what you get after you pop them.

At my amount of buildings I get something like 113% bonus to CPS from elder battalion. If i take my base CPS with elder batallion instead of radiant because its better at this point.

I get a multiplier of 14.4 to my CPS with radiant
with Dragon Guts I get 84% withered = .84 * 14 = 11.76 * 1.2 = 14.112
Thinking radiant still wins

[All talk and no fight]

Originally posted by Stripey:

I'm not a math guy but I feel like Radiant Appetite + Dragon Guts might be the new way to go for pure idling. Just looking at the numbers it seems to offer more cookies overall over Radiant Appetite + Breath of Milk/Elder Battalion.

Anyone can confirm?

no idea, math hurts my head =(
jk, i just do force the hand of fate combos so i dont use wrinklers. idunno!

Originally posted by jieyu:

Originally posted by All talk and no fight:

Currently at 673 upgrades, 126 heavenly upgrades, and 591 achievments.
for max CPS from crumblor, Radiant Appetite and Elder Battalion are the way to go. Yes, Elder battalion beats out breath of Milk in the laaaaaaate game

just tested for myself, you are right! thanks
probably due to the new 'clone grandmas' upgrade?

nope, before this new update elder battalions was still better then breath of milk. I due believe elder battalions got much better with the update that introduced all the "unshackled" heavenly upgrades

[Stripey]

Originally posted by MadArkael:

Originally posted by Stripey:

I'm not a math guy but I feel like Radiant Appetite + Dragon Guts might be the new way to go for pure idling. Just looking at the numbers it seems to offer more cookies overall over Radiant Appetite + Breath of Milk/Elder Battalion.

Anyone can confirm?

How does digest factor in?
How does explode factor in?
are these simple multipliers. I would think digest would be multiplicative across the number of wrinklers, and explode just is a 20% multiplier to what you get after you pop them.

At my amount of buildings I get something like 113% bonus to CPS from elder battalion. If i take my base CPS with elder batallion instead of radiant because its better at this point.

I get a multiplier of 14.4 to my CPS with radiant
with Dragon Guts I get 84% withered = .84 * 14 = 11.76 * 1.2 = 14.112
Thinking radiant still wins

No yeah, Radiant is still the king, I'm asking if anyone has figured out if Radiant + Guts is better than Radiant + BoM/EB

[Cheese King]

Originally posted by Stripey:

Originally posted by MadArkael:

How does digest factor in?
How does explode factor in?
are these simple multipliers. I would think digest would be multiplicative across the number of wrinklers, and explode just is a 20% multiplier to what you get after you pop them.

At my amount of buildings I get something like 113% bonus to CPS from elder battalion. If i take my base CPS with elder batallion instead of radiant because its better at this point.

I get a multiplier of 14.4 to my CPS with radiant
with Dragon Guts I get 84% withered = .84 * 14 = 11.76 * 1.2 = 14.112
Thinking radiant still wins

No yeah, Radiant is still the king, I'm asking if anyone has figured out if Radiant + Guts is better than Radiant + BoM/EB

Yeah that's what I was wondering as well (probably should have specified that).
Currently at 690 upgrades, 128 heavenly upgrades, and 592 achievements and trying to max out cps for idling using wrinklers.

[Gohanno DOWN]

If Dragon Guts is like Skruuia, I wonder if it's not better for idling to go EB if late or BoM/Radiant and then switch Dragon Guts before Popping the wrinklers

[Cheese King]

Originally posted by Gohanno DOWN:

If Dragon Guts is like Skruuia, I wonder if it's not better for idling to go EB if late or BoM/Radiant and then switch Dragon Guts before Popping the wrinklers

That could be the play

[zab]

Elder battalion and radiant appetite for me

[Mist of Majora]

Originally posted by Cheese King:

Originally posted by Gohanno DOWN:

If Dragon Guts is like Skruuia, I wonder if it's not better for idling to go EB if late or BoM/Radiant and then switch Dragon Guts before Popping the wrinklers

That could be the play

I'm still working on hard numbers, but I'm currently under the impression that this is backwards.

If you throw in Dragon Guts at the last second before popping the Wrinklers, you've been missing out on 2 extra wrinklers worth of cookies at that point too. From what I understand, Skruuia isn't calculated until you actually pop the wrinkler, so obviously it's best to wait til popping for that one.

Also. it would seem the wiki and a few bits have been updated with the new max Wrinkler count. The following is from the wiki assumedly with Dragon God on, because you can't get to 14 otherwise (that I know of at least): "Because wrinklers store a percentage of the total wither rate, each additional wrinkler adds a larger bonus than the previous one. The net increase in CpS is 0.5% with one wrinkler, rising to 1008% with a maximum of fourteen. The fourteenth wrinkler alone increases net CpS by more than 143% of the pre-wrinkler base value." https://cookieclicker.fandom.com/wiki/Wrinkler

[MadArkael]

Originally posted by Stripey:

Originally posted by MadArkael:

How does digest factor in?
How does explode factor in?
are these simple multipliers. I would think digest would be multiplicative across the number of wrinklers, and explode just is a 20% multiplier to what you get after you pop them.

At my amount of buildings I get something like 113% bonus to CPS from elder battalion. If i take my base CPS with elder batallion instead of radiant because its better at this point.

I get a multiplier of 14.4 to my CPS with radiant
with Dragon Guts I get 84% withered = .84 * 14 = 11.76 * 1.2 = 14.112
Thinking radiant still wins

No yeah, Radiant is still the king, I'm asking if anyone has figured out if Radiant + Guts is better than Radiant + BoM/EB

I did a poor job of conveying it, but i was comparing radiant vs guts, using elder battalion as my static. My conclusion is that radiant is better than guts. EB + Radiant by a small margin