Meaty Sugar Lump

[Cryadis]

I couldn't find all the info online about the full circumstances needed get the meaty sugar lump so I'm combining the useful info here:

• Sugar lump type is selected when you manually harvest, or the game auto-harvests, the previous sugar lump, however you MUST be online! If the game is closed, the next sugar lump will always be ordinary
  
• You need to be in the Grandmapocalypse when harvesting the previous sugar lump
  
• Stage 1 = 10% change, stage 2 = 20% chance, stage 3 = 30% chance
  
• You can Elder Pledge and still have the 30% chance (just don't enter the covenant as the Grandmapocalypse will be ended)
  
• You do not need to stay in the Grandmapocalypse after harvesting the previous sugar lump: if it rolled the meaty type, it will grow into a meaty sugar lump
  
• You do not need to be online to harvest the meaty sugar lump: it will auto-harvest offline and when you next open the game, you will get the achievement

[Kunovega]

All of this is in the wiki
https://cookieclicker.fandom.com/wiki/Sugar_Lump

[Cryadis]

Not all of it. The specifics about not being online when it's harvested, or not being in the Grandmapocalypse for the duration of it's growth, or being Elder Pledged when the type is selected is not covered by the wiki

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Cryadis:

Not all of it. The specifics about not being online when it's harvested, or not being in the Grandmapocalypse for the duration of it's growth, or being Elder Pledged when the type is selected is not covered by the wiki :birbSmile:

It is if you read all of it and understand it:

The type is determined when the Sugar Lump is generated right after harvesting the previous Sugar Lump. When the game is closed, all auto-harvesting Sugar Lumps after the first one will be normal, hence yield 1 sugar lump each.

That states very clearly when the sugar lump is determined and that it can be harvested offline while the rest after it will be normal.

During the Grandmapocalypse, Meaty Sugar Lumps may grow instead

No one would assume the type changes after it starts growing.

So yes, everything is there.

[Cryadis]

You are correct about the auto-harvesting offline "after the first one". I must have missed that the ~2-3 times I checked the wiki.

However, the wiki doesn't do a very good job of making clear that Elder Pledging when selecting the type, or entering a covenant during growth doesn't invalidate your chances. Nor was it particularly explicit about the first point (but that could just be me).

The point of this post was to congregate all the relevant information about how to get a Meaty Sugar lump specifically, in a hopefully clearer manner.

[Morsk]

I don't believe the Elder Pledge part. Why wouldn't Pledge be the same as Covenant? It is for everything else.

Also, it would be hard for me not to have noticed. When I started over, I did heavy save scumming of my first few lumps to catch up. I would Pledge on purpose to avoid Meaty, and I would have noticed if this failed.

[Neocronic]

How to change time when sugar lump auto harvested? That period i just sleep and when i play new one already growing.

[Cryadis]

Originally posted by Morsk:

I don't believe the Elder Pledge part. Why wouldn't Pledge be the same as Covenant? It is for everything else.

The Meaty one I got was obtained while Elder Pledged with the Grandmatriarch status of appeased. I only tried this after finding a source that said meaty was obtainable while appeased (still trying to find the link again, sorry).

Originally posted by Neocronic:

How to change time when sugar lump auto harvested? That period i just sleep and when i play new one already growing.

If you're still early-game, the lump growth time will be 23 hours with another hour before auto-harvesting (24 hrs total), so unfortunately the harvest time won't change. However as you progress there's ways to reduce growth time, such as Heavenly upgrades (unlocked after ascension), Rigidel in the Pantheon (Temple minigame), and dragon abilities (Dragon's Curve and Reality Bending). So the harvest time will cycle and you'll be awake to harvest manually/online most days.