Career Mode was the deciding factor. Game is a fail.

[Stop The Machine]

Underwhelming does not begin to describe this disaster.

Forcing us to retire, They said this would not happen.
Basic CAF, Just a handful of hairstyles and facial hair, all of which are trash.
Cant not change the bulbous back of the head area... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ INSANE!
Basic gear - Not even different length trunks?
Forced to hire a team - I would prefer to start out of my garage and without a team at all.
Career progression feels as linear, vanilla, and unrewarding as any UFC title and doesnt hold a candle to the Career modes of decades old boxing titles.
No yearly reward to recognition of top fighters for that year, No retired fighters list, No HOF of any sort... Every single part of this career mode is trash.

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ job was simple fellas everyone loved the career modes from the Fight Night series, All you had to do was follow the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ path that was before you... instead you chose to copy the worst trends in combat sports games.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I have not been this disappointed since this game was first released.

This should have been an easy win for them... Just gives us options man. This has been a truly terrible gaming experience to be a part of and follow.

Thank God its over. I hope to see another creator try his hand in the years to come.

[JAPAN武samurai]

EA > SCI

[aktive80]

I decided long ago this game is a failure. It's a drawn out scam that they have been doing for years. Re-releasing a flawed game until it goes away.

[Tr3m0r]

I emailed plaion regarding their data collection methods and the fact they have never given how data is collected and what is done with it while also keeping with European legal requirements of being GDPR compliant. If we would like any chance of them getting increased transparency I would recommend you send them emails asking for the same because I have pretty decent understanding they have messed up on this front and it potentially is a big issue. There are examples just where people banded together on the steam forums for another game and the developers had to make a lot of positive changes for the users (and it ended up being just a technicality and not the big ethical issues). They deleted everyone's user data as a result and changed their EULA (they don't have it defined even in the EULA which is problem number 1 and quite big. The fact they removed the ability to opt out of consent right after their saudi deal just kinda rubs me the wrong way. Their current postings for hire have "GDPR compliance preferred" for HR. I will continue to hold them accountable the best I can but there is more strength in numbers so please consider emailing them. I haven't asked anyone yet but if I still am without a reply next week then I will escalate this.

[S4hn8t]

Have you ever worked in animation, graphics and coding? all in a small company that is putting its first game on Steam, surrounded by investors who are putting a lot of pressure on them, all because of a community of players who know nothing about life and therefore only know how to yell to express themselves like newborns. All this leads to a vicious vicious circle which will ultimately prove them right. The worst vice in the world is ignorance in the sense of pretending not to know.

♥♥♥♥ the life
Good luck team!

[aktive80]

Originally posted by S4h:

Have you ever worked in animation, graphics and coding? all in a small company that is putting its first game on Steam, surrounded by investors who are putting a lot of pressure on them, all because of a community of players who know nothing about life and therefore only know how to yell to express themselves like newborns. All this leads to a vicious vicious circle which will ultimately prove them right. The worst vice in the world is ignorance in the sense of pretending not to know.

♥♥♥♥ the life
Good luck team!

I've never pitched flawed or broken merchandise. Simple as that!

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by Stop The Machine:

Underwhelming does not begin to describe this disaster.

Forcing us to retire, They said this would not happen.
Basic CAF, Just a handful of hairstyles and facial hair, all of which are trash.
Cant not change the bulbous back of the head area... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ INSANE!
Basic gear - Not even different length trunks?
Forced to hire a team - I would prefer to start out of my garage and without a team at all.
Career progression feels as linear, vanilla, and unrewarding as any UFC title and doesnt hold a candle to the Career modes of decades old boxing titles.
No yearly reward to recognition of top fighters for that year, No retired fighters list, No HOF of any sort... Every single part of this career mode is trash.

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ job was simple fellas everyone loved the career modes from the Fight Night series, All you had to do was follow the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ path that was before you... instead you chose to copy the worst trends in combat sports games.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I have not been this disappointed since this game was first released.

This should have been an easy win for them... Just gives us options man. This has been a truly terrible gaming experience to be a part of and follow.

Thank God its over. I hope to see another creator try his hand in the years to come.

I found the career mode to be serviceable. The biggest issues which has been a problem since launch is the animations and core game-play. Playing online would keep me entertained since I enjoy competition. However, the career mode really highlights how ♥♥♥♥ the gameplay is. Punches have no impact, punches are so sluggish, and stuns don't trigger properly especially on undisputed difficulty. If this is it, I will never purchase another SC product

[Tr3m0r]

Originally posted by S4h:

Have you ever worked in animation, graphics and coding? all in a small company that is putting its first game on Steam, surrounded by investors who are putting a lot of pressure on them, all because of a community of players who know nothing about life and therefore only know how to yell to express themselves like newborns. All this leads to a vicious vicious circle which will ultimately prove them right. The worst vice in the world is ignorance in the sense of pretending not to know.

♥♥♥♥ the life
Good luck team!

The ultimate vice in the world is ignorance in the sense of pretending not to know? Huh? That's inherently not ignorance.

Why do people who seem to jump to criticism responses tend to only take a very ironically ignorant position that focuses on smallest violin logic premises. This is not a very new school game so many people are well established professionals. No one needs to understand the inner workings of my profession to give or elucidate commentary. There are PLENTY of careers that deal with limited resources. There are plenty of careers that deal with dissatisfied clients. Not everyone is screaming or whining about the game and some instant gratification issue they have. Of course that will increase as people come back to the game like recently but that is not everyone. Plenty of people have a proven track record of giving quality feedback in the form of bugs, areas of improvement and just ideas that essentially were never listened to. It does SEEM or FEEL like gaming studios actually have the inflated egos and thin skin to criticism with how many people reply like you do and put the onus of blame on the actual consumers of the game that makes them successful. It doesn't really happen in other areas of expertise or careers that I can think of off the top of my head where it's the actual people who use the services of the establishment that is the problem and not the actual service or institution being utilized.

[Wolves]

career has potential it was just rushed by fans

[MouseWorX]

It's almost like no one knows what early access means, or indie developer. EA gives a crap about any of you, obviously. Go play UFC and leave the boxing to fans

[THARN]

I get early access
I bought this because of career mode and i have to say-- this needs tweaked... ive played fight night way back in the day.. theres a good thing with the gyms and your team going here- but theres a mini strat game for training and weight... this does not make sense. energy/ over weight/ ready level for fight - not needed. even using the diest my figheter gains too much weight--are you kidding me? most males with this kind of muscle mass burn calories just by staring at the friggin wall.. gaining 3 pounds in one week is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
and then as most people point out body shots way too over powered..actually head shots too- can hit the ai opponent numerous times with head shots power shots and not much you take 2 in the body or in the head and your stunned then knocked down.
then dont even fight in the normal boxer stance- hove to go south paw and loose in order to not get hit//after 20 bouts in career I can see this is just not quite up to snuff.

[arflexit2]

100% agreed; this game might be early access but they are charging $40 dollars for it and it is fundementally flawed with the fight mechanics, character creation is far below bare minimum acceptable customization, and career mode offers almost nothing interesting to do. There is no way they are going to be able to 'fix' all of these fundemental flaws without rebuilding the game ground up; which they can't do at this point. As one person pointed out, this feels like a scam now; they know the game will fail and are trying to rip off people by overcharging for early access to get some of the money recovered, knowing it is failed game.

I have been looking forward to a new boxing game for almost 10 years. But Undisputed is significantly worse in every way (even graphics, models, swell and cut damage etc) than Fight Night Champion, a game that is almost 15 YEARS OLD NOW!!! FNC even had a full story mode to go along with pretty in depth character creation and a far better career mode.

I am really pissed I am getting denied my refund since I played for 12 hours. Bought it Thursday night, tried a few fights, tried character creation, tested out career and realized the game is terrible and asked for a refund. 2 hours to experience a early access release to determine if it is worth it is completely insufficient. The game is not fully released, how can you deny a refund after only owning it for 12 hours? What a joke. This company and stream will never get another dime from me.

Modern games all seem to suck now anyway. Why even bother anymore.

[arflexit2]

Originally posted by MouseWorX:

It's almost like no one knows what early access means, or indie developer. EA gives a crap about any of you, obviously. Go play UFC and leave the boxing to fans

We all know what early access means, do you know what charging people $40 dollars for a subpar game that is nearing full release and yet is fundamentally flawed and completely underdeveloped?

Boxing fan, I loved Fight Night series for years. I have been waiting for a new boxing game for 10 years. Undisputed is significantly worse in every category then Fight Night Champion; a game that is almost 15 years old now. if you think this is acceptable I don't think you are "boxing fan" I think you are a consumer, you don't think you just consume product and get ready for next product. YOU are the reason games suck now. Developers know they can produce crap and people like you will not only buy it but defend the crap too. unbelievable.

[Didnt do it]

Originally posted by Stop The Machine:

Underwhelming does not begin to describe this disaster.

Forcing us to retire, They said this would not happen.
Basic CAF, Just a handful of hairstyles and facial hair, all of which are trash.
Cant not change the bulbous back of the head area... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ INSANE!
Basic gear - Not even different length trunks?
Forced to hire a team - I would prefer to start out of my garage and without a team at all.
Career progression feels as linear, vanilla, and unrewarding as any UFC title and doesnt hold a candle to the Career modes of decades old boxing titles.
No yearly reward to recognition of top fighters for that year, No retired fighters list, No HOF of any sort... Every single part of this career mode is trash.

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ job was simple fellas everyone loved the career modes from the Fight Night series, All you had to do was follow the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ path that was before you... instead you chose to copy the worst trends in combat sports games.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I have not been this disappointed since this game was first released.

This should have been an easy win for them... Just gives us options man. This has been a truly terrible gaming experience to be a part of and follow.

Thank God its over. I hope to see another creator try his hand in the years to come.

Honestly, all your complaints are fine to me, cause it is EA. Graphics / customization is not a main point of this game not being good, and shouldnt be at this point.

GHOST PUNCHING IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BREAKING THIS GAME. UnRegistered punches that are somehow ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LANDING AND DOING DAMAGE is what is breaking this game

♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash game since day 1

[thunda]

Told you. I said years ago that as a smaller studio without an infinite budget, they should not waste their budget on licensing real boxers but focus on a good career mode, good create a boxer mode, good online mode, and good mod support. Animations might seem important too but really arent if those other things are in place.

Let the people create the famous boxers and have them be readily available to download in game and used as custom boxers. Boom, only cost you the mod support feature to develop.

[gimlikos84]

Just take it easy , and calm down.The carrier mode is really good , and I think it will be even better.People who are complaining about this game , and think that Fight Night was better , are deluded , and they live nostalgia.Wake up.
Undisputed is much better in almost every way , then Fight Night.This is the truth