Terrence Crawford, Fury,Canelo Alvarez,Sugar Ray Leonard/Robinson,RJJ, Muhammad Ali Fighters

[viiserateTTV]

If you pick these fighter and you think you are good at the game, you are not. All the Above fighters are over powered and for players with no skill. Yea i said it. Get good and learn how to really Box. You guys using these OP fighters are spammers and horrible Boxers, no skill just stats and spam.

S&S Player=Stats and Spam

[DrunkFerret]

i play roy jones junior at heavyweight a lot on non ranked and win quite a bit. but playing ranked, you kind of have to pick the top tier guys. you'd be dumb not to. i'm being dumb playing rjj at heavyweight on quick fights, i just enjoy being dumb sometimes. 🤷‍♂️

but the other person's pretty much always going to pick whoever's topping the stats that has traits or skills they prefer. that's just common sense.

[Braxton414]

Toxik님이 먼저 게시:

If you pick these fighter and you think you are good at the game, you are not. All the Above fighters are over powered and for players with no skill. Yea i said it. Get good and learn how to really Box. You guys using these OP fighters are spammers and horrible Boxers, no skill just stats and spam.

S&S Player=Stats and Spam

Only one I disagree with is Crawford. I may have not use him effectively, but I got stomped by Sergio. I usually play as USYK and Joe Louis, and man you are not lying about Ali players. I get so mad when this guys have the gall to taunt lol.

[aston316]

Absolutely ridiculous, this is supposed to be a sim boxing game and the characters are supposed to be based on their real life counterparts are you telling me that you want Eddie Hall to have similar stats to Fury, Wilder or Ali. If you want that go and play Creed or ready to rumble. Do you play Fifa and expect Everton to have the same stats as Man City? or The Chiefs to have the same Stats as Jets?

[JAPAN 武 SAMURAI]

lol...
If management can't use 90over fighters three times in a row, everything will be resolved.
No problem. It's too noisy

[viiserateTTV]

aston316님이 먼저 게시:

Absolutely ridiculous, this is supposed to be a sim boxing game and the characters are supposed to be based on their real life counterparts are you telling me that you want Eddie Hall to have similar stats to Fury, Wilder or Ali. If you want that go and play Creed or ready to rumble. Do you play Fifa and expect Everton to have the same stats as Man City? or The Chiefs to have the same Stats as Jets?

You can't say these legends can just get there @$$ beat literally and not get dazed or knocked out. That is unrealistic. I don't care how hard they hit but they should not be able to take 10 hit combos and stand if all the punches land over and over again, round after round. They are like punching bags and its a joke! You literally need zero boxing skills to beat someone with all these fighters.

[viiserateTTV]

Rdizz님이 먼저 게시:

Toxik님이 먼저 게시:

Again the issue is the damage these Legends receive when fighting. Not their power.

I don't see what you just wrote stated anywhere in your OP or your response to me?

But going on what you said, I think its a thing that will be tweaked. I do not think the damage they receive is the issue but the damage everyone else receives is the real issue.

Everyone else seems to get flashed way to easily, while these "OP Legends" don't.

allthough i just knocked down Canello in round 1 so i dunno...

Let me be more detailed in my argument here. Take notice how these legends take forever to Flash/Daze and lose health per body part vs. a good boxer with balanced stats. The damage they take is unrivaled and ridiculous to say the least. Its like fighting a Boss in a RPG with low tier gear, it would take 500X the hits to kill the Boss.

[Darth NVious]

Toxik님이 먼저 게시:

Rdizz님이 먼저 게시:

I don't see what you just wrote stated anywhere in your OP or your response to me?

But going on what you said, I think its a thing that will be tweaked. I do not think the damage they receive is the issue but the damage everyone else receives is the real issue.

Everyone else seems to get flashed way to easily, while these "OP Legends" don't.

allthough i just knocked down Canello in round 1 so i dunno...

Let me be more detailed in my argument here. Take notice how these legends take forever to Flash/Daze and lose health per body part vs. a good boxer with balanced stats. The damage they take is unrivaled and ridiculous to say the least. Its like fighting a Boss in a RPG with low tier gear, it would take 500X the hits to kill the Boss.

Sorry Rdizz but I have to side with Toxik on this one. So you have a good feel for what we are saying, just try the following match up. Even once.

Heavyweight > Joe Joyce (you) vs Tyson Fury (Intermediate to Undisputed difficulty)

Trust me you will not like the experience. I have already made a thread about this. Maybe you can check that out.

The argument for Sugar Ray Robinson being OP is also legit. That character is just simply broken man.

Here are the notorious raid bosses of Undisputed:

Tyson Fury - reach, speed, health

Muhammad Ali - broken animation (missing frames for Right Hook) that's why it bypasses the Arm Fatigue mechanic, and should have been the one addressed by Steel City

Sugar Ray Robinson - too much health and punch power

Sub- bosses (still broken but not as much):

Deontay Wilder - broken animation (missing frames for backstep Right jab ), head health

Canelo Alvarez - broken animation (missing frames for both Left and Right Hooks)

[viiserateTTV]

rydersonthestorm님이 먼저 게시:

These ATG boxers didnt lose to low level fighters though, especially at there peak. It should be very difficult for a much worse fighter to win

Thats irrelevant to a game. They take very little damage which is unrealistic at their PRIME!!!!!! A Player shouldn't be awarded a punching bag damage scaling just because its a Legend. Legends are human and can be knocked out if they are not played correctly by said Player!!!!!

[Tr3m0r]

Given SC goal of worldwide multi console launch in 2024 I would think we will get an update sooner than later addressing some of these issues around balance and strategy.

[skelet6r]

Toxik님이 먼저 게시:

aston316님이 먼저 게시:

Absolutely ridiculous, this is supposed to be a sim boxing game and the characters are supposed to be based on their real life counterparts are you telling me that you want Eddie Hall to have similar stats to Fury, Wilder or Ali. If you want that go and play Creed or ready to rumble. Do you play Fifa and expect Everton to have the same stats as Man City? or The Chiefs to have the same Stats as Jets?

You can't say these legends can just get there @$$ beat literally and not get dazed or knocked out. That is unrealistic. I don't care how hard they hit but they should not be able to take 10 hit combos and stand if all the punches land over and over again, round after round. They are like punching bags and its a joke! You literally need zero boxing skills to beat someone with all these fighters.

EXACTLY!!! These ♥♥♥♥♥ ass srr spammers defending with they lives cause they know that if he do get a nerf they got no other fighters to go to

[Mr.Nobody]

Toxik님이 먼저 게시:

Havagat님이 먼저 게시:

I think the issue with that is not really how players are playing but overall boxer stat implementation. I made a thread about that titled "Suggestion on how to Balance the Game : Boxer Stats should be based off of Sums (and not Averages)". I hope you read that and give me your thoughts. It's basically an argument about how boxer stats are unrealistically skewed too much in favor of higher rated boxers.

I agree however damage should be able to be taken by these OP Fighters. That's the true issue. I can easily outbox a S&S Player. They shouldn't be able to take a 10 punch combo and eat it. I have zero respect for these Gods(Fighters) and the abusing of a unrealistic fighter in game. I mean they are literally like Gods.

I fight mostly at mw and all i face is Roy, Canelo, Ray and Calzaghe. I use NIgel Benn 99% while every once in a while ill use Robinson because im a fan of his. But anyway if the person is an average player i can blow them out in a couple rounds but if theyre good or high level spam players it is much, much more difficult to win fights. I do win them but its a tall task because of the limitations of my fighter compared to theirs. That being said though i will not join them in picking the top fighters because fighting at a disadvantage makes me better by having to think about how to counter their tactics and stat advantages. While they rack up a bunch of easy wins but not actually getting better.