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It's not a stamina bug
You're throwing too many punches.

You're missing too much.

You're not protecting your body.

Lots of questionable things have occurred in this game since I started playing but stamina retention isn't one of them. If you fight a smart fight you can maintain 100% stamina for the first several rounds, focusing on punches that matter rather than throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Like of COURSE you're running out of stamina. You're going for the knockout in Round 2 despite absolutely no signs that your opponent is hurt. I've played y'all. I see what you do.

Can there be improvements? Of course. But I will be quite irritated if the final version of this game gets super dumbed down to appease players who refuse to learn how to play it.
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Kai-L Kenobi Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by SuicidalApe:
Originally posted by verlorensquirrel:
You're throwing too many punches.

You're missing too much.

You're not protecting your body.

Lots of questionable things have occurred in this game since I started playing but stamina retention isn't one of them. If you fight a smart fight you can maintain 100% stamina for the first several rounds, focusing on punches that matter rather than throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Like of COURSE you're running out of stamina. You're going for the knockout in Round 2 despite absolutely no signs that your opponent is hurt. I've played y'all. I see what you do.

Can there be improvements? Of course. But I will be quite irritated if the final version of this game gets super dumbed down to appease players who refuse to learn how to play it.

There is a stamina bug! and if you think differently then you obviously have not played this game enough.
90 hours played 52 in last 2 weeks, there is no stamina bug, little buddy
duskbird Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by verlorensquirrel:
You're throwing too many punches.

You're missing too much.

You're not protecting your body.

Lots of questionable things have occurred in this game since I started playing but stamina retention isn't one of them. If you fight a smart fight you can maintain 100% stamina for the first several rounds, focusing on punches that matter rather than throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Like of COURSE you're running out of stamina. You're going for the knockout in Round 2 despite absolutely no signs that your opponent is hurt. I've played y'all. I see what you do.

Can there be improvements? Of course. But I will be quite irritated if the final version of this game gets super dumbed down to appease players who refuse to learn how to play it.

Don't be funny. And don't try to teach people anything here. We don't say it's hard. We just say it's nonsense. We can also make AI deplete its stamina. But only by punching his body. Your logic is out of physics laws. A person who fights aggressively and throws many empty punches which you avoided, eventually gets tired. It is also like that in real life. And that includes AI too in this broken game. Did you watch any real boxing match? Stop finding excuses to a faulty logic of game. If we can't make AI tired while he is swinging infinite punches, that means mechanic is broken. Did you ever see a fightnight game where AI can punch and not get tired. Tell me, why we get tired even when we play tactically and defensive, but AI does not while he is attacking like a raging bull in 12 rounds?
duskbird Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:48pm 
Game won't be dumbed down if it gets a decent and realistic stamina system. AI should be unpredictable and should fight with changing tactics according to the situation. That's how it's done. Not by closing that AI behaviour gap with an infinite stamina system. We all know that boxers' stamina only depleted by body punches in the game. But what about missed punches? Can any boxer throw infinite numbers of power punches without getting exhausted? Did you ever see a real boxing? That is how some boxers get their opponents tired. So, your hypothesis is dead
SuicidalApe Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Kai-L Kenobi:
Originally posted by SuicidalApe:

There is a stamina bug! and if you think differently then you obviously have not played this game enough.
90 hours played 52 in last 2 weeks, there is no stamina bug, little buddy
Mate you are a clueless troll
jodyhighroller Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:55pm 
The ranking system is definitely messed up. I am 160-34 81 knockouts now. People definitely get free wins. I beat Kai( pretty easily. Just finished another fighter 13-0 fight after him and I am somehow Plat 4 and Kai is undisputed with a record of 337-110. I have the video. That being said we did fight at heavy and apparently he is used to middle.
verlorensquirrel Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by duskbird:
Originally posted by verlorensquirrel:
You're throwing too many punches.

You're missing too much.

You're not protecting your body.

Lots of questionable things have occurred in this game since I started playing but stamina retention isn't one of them. If you fight a smart fight you can maintain 100% stamina for the first several rounds, focusing on punches that matter rather than throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Like of COURSE you're running out of stamina. You're going for the knockout in Round 2 despite absolutely no signs that your opponent is hurt. I've played y'all. I see what you do.

Can there be improvements? Of course. But I will be quite irritated if the final version of this game gets super dumbed down to appease players who refuse to learn how to play it.

Don't be funny. And don't try to teach people anything here. We don't say it's hard. We just say it's nonsense. We can also make AI deplete its stamina. But only by punching his body. Your logic is out of physics laws. A person who fights aggressively and throws many empty punches which you avoided, eventually gets tired. It is also like that in real life. And that includes AI too in this broken game. Did you watch any real boxing match? Stop finding excuses to a faulty logic of game. If we can't make AI tired while he is swinging infinite punches, that means mechanic is broken. Did you ever see a fightnight game where AI can punch and not get tired. Tell me, why we get tired even when we play tactically and defensive, but AI does not while he is attacking like a raging bull in 12 rounds?


Stop letting the AI find you, and they'll get tired. Stop making excuses for the logic?

Stop making excuses for yourself.
duskbird Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by SuicidalApe:
Originally posted by Kai-L Kenobi:
90 hours played 52 in last 2 weeks, there is no stamina bug, little buddy
Mate you are a clueless troll

Yeah, they are all. They think they know anything about physics law, what stamina means... They think they achieve some success with this broken tactics of broken logic of game. I never saw a boxing match which boxers can throw hundreds of punches without getting tired. It is also valid in every sports, because that's how it works irl. And they think it's realistic to make opponent tired by only punching the body. Let them make these tactics in FN champion on hardest difficulty and get knocked out. AI will tear them up while they're trying to put body punches
Last edited by duskbird; Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:59pm
verlorensquirrel Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by jodyhighroller:
The ranking system is definitely messed up. I am 160-34 81 knockouts now. People definitely get free wins. I beat Kai( pretty easily. Just finished another fighter 13-0 fight after him and I am somehow Plat 4 and Kai is undisputed with a record of 337-110. I have the video. That being said we did fight at heavy and apparently he is used to middle.

Yeah I can't figure out the ranking system at all. I'm Platinum III with just an official record of 5-0-0 (I overwhelmingly play unranked matches) and I've seen guys with that exact same record come in much higher. Maybe knockouts are a factor but I can't help that everyone quits when they're in trouble.

Congrats on the win. I may be biased but given the style you employ, can't say I'm surprised.
Kai-L Kenobi Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by jodyhighroller:
The ranking system is definitely messed up. I am 160-34 81 knockouts now. People definitely get free wins. I beat Kai( pretty easily. Just finished another fighter 13-0 fight after him and I am somehow Plat 4 and Kai is undisputed with a record of 337-110. I have the video. That being said we did fight at heavy and apparently he is used to middle.
middle or light or welter. big pace difference at heavy, and like i said, the game drops out and both people get the win, like barely anyone is purposely surrendering
Last edited by Kai-L Kenobi; Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:03pm
duskbird Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by verlorensquirrel:
Originally posted by duskbird:

Don't be funny. And don't try to teach people anything here. We don't say it's hard. We just say it's nonsense. We can also make AI deplete its stamina. But only by punching his body. Your logic is out of physics laws. A person who fights aggressively and throws many empty punches which you avoided, eventually gets tired. It is also like that in real life. And that includes AI too in this broken game. Did you watch any real boxing match? Stop finding excuses to a faulty logic of game. If we can't make AI tired while he is swinging infinite punches, that means mechanic is broken. Did you ever see a fightnight game where AI can punch and not get tired. Tell me, why we get tired even when we play tactically and defensive, but AI does not while he is attacking like a raging bull in 12 rounds?


Stop letting the AI find you, and they'll get tired. Stop making excuses for the logic?

Stop making excuses for yourself.

So, you accept that, a person can't get tired unless he gets a body punch eh? Hahahahah. Maaann... Trust me, game is dumbed down this way. And trust me, I avoid it's punches and I don't have a problem with getting tired. I don't deplete my stamina, and I don't lose don't worry. I am repeating again: we can beat the hell out of it. We just find it unrealistic
verlorensquirrel Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by duskbird:
Originally posted by SuicidalApe:
Mate you are a clueless troll

Yeah, they are all. They think they know anything about physics law, what stamina means... They think they achieve some success with this broken tactics of broken logic of game. I never saw a boxing match which boxers can throw hundreds of punches without getting tired. It is also valid in every sports, because that's how it works irl. And they think it's realistic to make opponent tired by only punching the body. Let them make these tactics in FN champion on hardest difficulty and get knocked out. AI will tear them up while they're trying to put body punches

LMAO I could beat Ali when using old-man Foreman using these exact same tactics on GOAT difficulty in Fight Night Champion. That's how I knew it would work here, too.
duskbird Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by verlorensquirrel:
Originally posted by duskbird:

Yeah, they are all. They think they know anything about physics law, what stamina means... They think they achieve some success with this broken tactics of broken logic of game. I never saw a boxing match which boxers can throw hundreds of punches without getting tired. It is also valid in every sports, because that's how it works irl. And they think it's realistic to make opponent tired by only punching the body. Let them make these tactics in FN champion on hardest difficulty and get knocked out. AI will tear them up while they're trying to put body punches

LMAO I could beat Ali when using old-man Foreman using these exact same tactics on GOAT difficulty in Fight Night Champion. That's how I knew it would work here, too.

But in FN champion, AI gets tired with its every empty effort. If he punches the air with power punches, you can see how AI's stamina gets decreased. Because that's how it works. This game lacks it. It's like a football team runs like crazy for 90 minutes and never gets tired unless they get kick to the legs. That is exactly what you are defending here. Same thing
Last edited by duskbird; Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:07pm
Kai-L Kenobi Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by duskbird:
Originally posted by SuicidalApe:
Mate you are a clueless troll

Yeah, they are all. They think they know anything about physics law, what stamina means... They think they achieve some success with this broken tactics of broken logic of game. I never saw a boxing match which boxers can throw hundreds of punches without getting tired. It is also valid in every sports, because that's how it works irl. And they think it's realistic to make opponent tired by only punching the body. Let them make these tactics in FN champion on hardest difficulty and get knocked out. AI will tear them up while they're trying to put body punches
you fight the AI? lol explains why you dont think like a fighting game player. youre a loner go home
verlorensquirrel Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by duskbird:
Originally posted by verlorensquirrel:

LMAO I could beat Ali when using old-man Foreman using these exact same tactics on GOAT difficulty in Fight Night Champion. That's how I knew it would work here, too.

But in FN champion, AI gets tired with its every empty effort. If he punches the air with power punches, you can see how AI's stamina gets decreased. Because that's how it works. This game lacks it

This game does not lack it. It's just not as easy as Fight Night was. I admit the intermediate CPU doesn't get very tired on its own, but Pro definitely will, and Undisputed? Forget about it.

The game isn't perfect but so many of the complaints stem from "Why isn't this game easy enough for me?"

Also, just gonna throw this out there - if you've ever watched an actual boxing match, this game actually greatly EXAGGERATES how quickly a professional boxer gets gassed. Not the other way around.
duskbird Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Kai-L Kenobi:
Originally posted by duskbird:

Yeah, they are all. They think they know anything about physics law, what stamina means... They think they achieve some success with this broken tactics of broken logic of game. I never saw a boxing match which boxers can throw hundreds of punches without getting tired. It is also valid in every sports, because that's how it works irl. And they think it's realistic to make opponent tired by only punching the body. Let them make these tactics in FN champion on hardest difficulty and get knocked out. AI will tear them up while they're trying to put body punches
you fight the AI? lol explains why you dont think like a fighting game player. youre a loner go home

How old are you? Because you talk gibberish without giving any answers to my questions about how it works in real life. You think you are the champion here by mashing buttons. Is that what you are? Is that makes you a real champion, a real gamer? LOSER. Get the hell outa here. Jeezz.. You guys are really funny. I am an era where real games made by a solid single player. I don't want to deal with online ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, broken servers, connection issues, cheating pathetics and children like you who know nothing about boxing. I just don't want to waste my time. When game get a career mode, won't you all play against AI?
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Date Posted: Feb 26, 2023 @ 10:26am
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