Ali is broken ranked is only him

[The Movement]

title says it all he is just insane strong and no other heavy weight can beat him. He has an iron chin, hes fast, can slit easy and has great stam. did they even try to balance this out? matchmaking is forever if you pick tyson or Ali because thats what everyone picks they are OP.(they must have fixed this because im seeing mirror matches now. ort I just had unlucky wait times.) balance this ♥♥♥♥ out whats wrong with you devs?

[theycallmetoby]

I love an outside fighter that is fast, but even I won't use Ali.... every boxing game he has ever been in he is OP AF... the man has lost, people... he doesn't need to be coded as a Boxing God. He was amazing in his time, against the people he fought.

[p0mpous]

Originally posted by theycallmetoby:

I love an outside fighter that is fast, but even I won't use Ali.... every boxing game he has ever been in he is OP AF... the man has lost, people... he doesn't need to be coded as a Boxing God. He was amazing in his time, against the people he fought.

Ok but what version of him lost? He was the best of the toughest era ever when he was past his prime.

Balance it? No I want accurate versions of the fighters in game.

The only thing wrong with Ali is his weight in this game, he was like 215-220 not 238.

[Emperor Zero]

Originally posted by theycallmetoby:

I love an outside fighter that is fast, but even I won't use Ali.... every boxing game he has ever been in he is OP AF... the man has lost, people... he doesn't need to be coded as a Boxing God. He was amazing in his time, against the people he fought.

its because casuals praise him as some sort of god because he him self said he was the greatest, in the ring he wasn't the best at all nor the greatest, he was good no doubt but he wasn't the best boxer, he was just a loud mouth who knew how to market himself and preach about politcal issues to get fame and not to mention him being muslim helped his popularity alot. basically he isn't the greatest of all time, he just made casuals think he is. also ali wasn't some hard hitter who couldn't get knocked out, he was a defensive outboxer who counters your punches and frustrates you and exhausts you, not some op god who walks you down and hits harder then prime mike tyson!

[Emperor Zero]

Originally posted by p0mpous:

Originally posted by theycallmetoby:

I love an outside fighter that is fast, but even I won't use Ali.... every boxing game he has ever been in he is OP AF... the man has lost, people... he doesn't need to be coded as a Boxing God. He was amazing in his time, against the people he fought.

Ok but what version of him lost? He was the best of the toughest era ever when he was past his prime.

Balance it? No I want accurate versions of the fighters in game.

The only thing wrong with Ali is his weight in this game, he was like 215-220 not 238.

dude he isn't accurate to his real life counterpart at all, ali wasn't even close to how powerful he is in the game. also he lost to joe frazier during his prime and many others.

[p0mpous]

Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:

Originally posted by p0mpous:

Ok but what version of him lost? He was the best of the toughest era ever when he was past his prime.

Balance it? No I want accurate versions of the fighters in game.

The only thing wrong with Ali is his weight in this game, he was like 215-220 not 238.

dude he isn't accurate to his real life counterpart at all, ali wasn't even close to how powerful he is in the game. also he lost to joe frazier during his prime and many others.

That wasnt his prime that was after a multiple year layoff and only a few comback fights.

[Emperor Zero]

Originally posted by p0mpous:

Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:

dude he isn't accurate to his real life counterpart at all, ali wasn't even close to how powerful he is in the game. also he lost to joe frazier during his prime and many others.

That was his prime that was after a multiple year layoff and only a few comback fights.

ali fans always have excuses for him, the greatest of all time wouldn't be effected by such. he was good but he wasn't THE GREATEST

[p0mpous]

Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:

Originally posted by p0mpous:

That was his prime that was after a multiple year layoff and only a few comback fights.

ali fans always have excuses for him, the greatest of all time wouldn't be effected by such. he was good but he wasn't THE GREATEST

He's still a human and athlete are effected by these things.

[Hawk_UK]

Originally posted by p0mpous:

Originally posted by theycallmetoby:

I love an outside fighter that is fast, but even I won't use Ali.... every boxing game he has ever been in he is OP AF... the man has lost, people... he doesn't need to be coded as a Boxing God. He was amazing in his time, against the people he fought.

Ok but what version of him lost? He was the best of the toughest era ever when he was past his prime.

Balance it? No I want accurate versions of the fighters in game.

The only thing wrong with Ali is his weight in this game, he was like 215-220 not 238.

+1 on that mate.....

I reported about Ali being modelled overweight as he was in the 70's and why they didn't model Ali from the 60's just before he was banned from boxing when he was at his best peak we would ever see? Ali's face in particular looks far too plump and heavy for a fit Ali, and as you said they also have his weight wrong which gob-smacks me considering the detailed information they must have had access to after obtaining the license to include Ali, surely?
Plus Ali has a Chinese look with his eyes in the fight intro's and between rounds in his corner... not sure if that is very poor facial animation expressions applied to his face by the animators or what but it looks terrible for Ali and the same for Sugar Ray Leonard too.

[Boomshanka]

Best thing to do is use create a boxer mode for online play with max score of 85 (when its released) stops all those boring everyone picks the same fighter nonsense. All of that comes after they work on the game alot more, here's hoping they end up making a good game in a year or two

[iOii0i]

Hahahaha!

Me: Career mode needs to be in or it isn’t worth it.

Community: uh duh we dun wan career. Its pose tuh be an online only game anyway a-doy


This is exactly what people were concerned about. Paying for a stress test only to be walled by meta’s and cheap tactics. Steel city will spend most of the year and ignore half of their roadmap just to try to balance the game.

[iOii0i]

Originally posted by Hawk_UK:

Originally posted by p0mpous:

Ok but what version of him lost? He was the best of the toughest era ever when he was past his prime.

Balance it? No I want accurate versions of the fighters in game.

The only thing wrong with Ali is his weight in this game, he was like 215-220 not 238.

+1 on that mate.....

I reported about Ali being modelled overweight as he was in the 70's and why they didn't model Ali from the 60's just before he was banned from boxing when he was at his best peak we would ever see? Ali's face in particular looks far too plump and heavy for a fit Ali, and as you said they also have his weight wrong which gob-smacks me considering the detailed information they must have had access to after obtaining the license to include Ali, surely?
Plus Ali has a Chinese look with his eyes in the fight intro's and between rounds in his corner... not sure if that is very poor facial animation expressions applied to his face by the animators or what but it looks terrible for Ali and the same for Sugar Ray Leonard too.

I would also like to see a roy jones when he was on steroids. His appretanxe looks pillow-y. Just like Ali, it seems they picked the version of Roy that was at the end of his career.

[Darque]

While I understand the principle of the rating system for fighters, creating a dynamic in play. Aren't all the boxers in the game professional fighters?

I see no reason why a bad Ali player should beat a good Frank Bruno for instance, based solely on "stats" and "bonuses".

I want to play a technical fighter, where I have a chance at winning with any fighter. It makes no sense to have 50 or 250 fighters in the game, if only one or two are ever used in each division.

I too hope there is some created fighter space in the game, with a ceiling on stats. To make the game about actually fighting. Rather than who chooses the highest rated fighter.

Hopefully Early Access has made a few things apparent to the dev team, and they try to balance the experience. It looks good, plays quite well. But the lack of feedback, and unbalanced nature of things makes it too frustrating in the long term to want to play more than a match or 2 at a time.

I really want to like this game. I like being the underdog. But unless I choose a fighter that is unbalanced, I don't stand a "fair" chance. And that isn't fun to me. Or maybe I just suck and don't understand the game well enough after half a dozen hours....

[76561197984503913]

No idea why they would put an old Ali in the game. Even if you jab the ♥♥♥ out of someone with him you still lose because the scoring system seems broken.

[Big Mac]

Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:

Originally posted by theycallmetoby:

I love an outside fighter that is fast, but even I won't use Ali.... every boxing game he has ever been in he is OP AF... the man has lost, people... he doesn't need to be coded as a Boxing God. He was amazing in his time, against the people he fought.

its because casuals praise him as some sort of god because he him self said he was the greatest, in the ring he wasn't the best at all nor the greatest, he was good no doubt but he wasn't the best boxer, he was just a loud mouth who knew how to market himself and preach about politcal issues to get fame and not to mention him being muslim helped his popularity alot. basically he isn't the greatest of all time, he just made casuals think he is. also ali wasn't some hard hitter who couldn't get knocked out, he was a defensive outboxer who counters your punches and frustrates you and exhausts you, not some op god who walks you down and hits harder then prime mike tyson!

This in no way reflects reality and I suggest you re-read your boxing history. He was forced out of the sport for four of his prime years because of his beliefs and had many people still calling him Cassius. If that's what you call improving your popularity by becoming a Muslim I don't know what to tell you.

[Daigoji Gai]

I beat him with Marciano, Frazier and the UK G ypsie. He is beatable.
Git gud.