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King Fenny Dec 16, 2022 @ 7:11pm
Rocky Marciano stats are way off
They got his weight wrong at 201 vs 184 to 189 is what his real weight was when he fought in his prime. Than they have his reach wrong at 173 cm when its 170 cm. Next lets talk about his Vit stats at 92 which i think should be 95 plus in each stats as he was only knocked down 2 times and never lost a fight at 49-0 with 43 KO. They have his Body health at 87 are you joking me?? OK now This is where i was shocked all his stats for Stamina should be 100 as Rocky would throw as many as 120 punches in 1 round. Even throwing 96 to 100 in round 15 one fight. With a average of high 60s throw punches per round in title fights. They have Rocky conditioning at 87 vs Wilder at 97. Wilder condition should be low 60s . Wilder punches throw per round is low 30s vs Fury. The speed stats look OK for Rocky but Accuracy at 89 is way to high. Now for Strength stat they have his left hand power is way to high at 88. I would go low 70s power on his left hand. 1 Rocky was not a true heavy weight since he was under 200 pounds. The right hand power they have at 89 power which is around what i would put it. Finally his Defense stats at 87 is way to high. Rocky was one of the easiest boxers to hit as his all out attack boxing style. I would have all D stats in the low 60s. Example of Rockys best knockouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZyJjcikFVE. Really how the other fighters stats are not this far off. Also the way Rocky moves in game vs real life is way off please fix this.
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Theflamesofsorrow Dec 16, 2022 @ 7:26pm 
Keep in mind back then you didn't need to be 200lbs+ to be officially a heavyweight. Just for clarification; I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you.
HighNtight Jan 4, 2023 @ 6:39am 
The rock was literally throwing over 100 punches in round 15. He MUST have 100 stamina period.
Siruss Jan 4, 2023 @ 7:23am 
Not only that, most of his punches were power hooks - not padded from jabs. Being undersized he had to make every punch count so they came with some heat.
Mr.Nobody Jan 4, 2023 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by King Fenny:
They got his weight wrong at 201 vs 184 to 189 is what his real weight was when he fought in his prime. Than they have his reach wrong at 173 cm when its 170 cm. Next lets talk about his Vit stats at 92 which i think should be 95 plus in each stats as he was only knocked down 2 times and never lost a fight at 49-0 with 43 KO. They have his Body health at 87 are you joking me?? OK now This is where i was shocked all his stats for Stamina should be 100 as Rocky would throw as many as 120 punches in 1 round. Even throwing 96 to 100 in round 15 one fight. With a average of high 60s throw punches per round in title fights. They have Rocky conditioning at 87 vs Wilder at 97. Wilder condition should be low 60s . Wilder punches throw per round is low 30s vs Fury. The speed stats look OK for Rocky but Accuracy at 89 is way to high. Now for Strength stat they have his left hand power is way to high at 88. I would go low 70s power on his left hand. 1 Rocky was not a true heavy weight since he was under 200 pounds. The right hand power they have at 89 power which is around what i would put it. Finally his Defense stats at 87 is way to high. Rocky was one of the easiest boxers to hit as his all out attack boxing style. I would have all D stats in the low 60s. Example of Rockys best knockouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZyJjcikFVE. Really how the other fighters stats are not this far off. Also the way Rocky moves in game vs real life is way off please fix this.
Do his perks even things out though?
King Fenny Jan 5, 2023 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Mr.Nobody:
Originally posted by King Fenny:
They got his weight wrong at 201 vs 184 to 189 is what his real weight was when he fought in his prime. Than they have his reach wrong at 173 cm when its 170 cm. Next lets talk about his Vit stats at 92 which i think should be 95 plus in each stats as he was only knocked down 2 times and never lost a fight at 49-0 with 43 KO. They have his Body health at 87 are you joking me?? OK now This is where i was shocked all his stats for Stamina should be 100 as Rocky would throw as many as 120 punches in 1 round. Even throwing 96 to 100 in round 15 one fight. With a average of high 60s throw punches per round in title fights. They have Rocky conditioning at 87 vs Wilder at 97. Wilder condition should be low 60s . Wilder punches throw per round is low 30s vs Fury. The speed stats look OK for Rocky but Accuracy at 89 is way to high. Now for Strength stat they have his left hand power is way to high at 88. I would go low 70s power on his left hand. 1 Rocky was not a true heavy weight since he was under 200 pounds. The right hand power they have at 89 power which is around what i would put it. Finally his Defense stats at 87 is way to high. Rocky was one of the easiest boxers to hit as his all out attack boxing style. I would have all D stats in the low 60s. Example of Rockys best knockouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZyJjcikFVE. Really how the other fighters stats are not this far off. Also the way Rocky moves in game vs real life is way off please fix this.
Do his perks even things out though?
Nope.
King Fenny Jan 5, 2023 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by HighNtight:
The rock was literally throwing over 100 punches in round 15. He MUST have 100 stamina period.
100% agree
King Fenny Jan 5, 2023 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by Siruss:
Not only that, most of his punches were power hooks - not padded from jabs. Being undersized he had to make every punch count so they came with some heat.
I really hope they fix the stats as I really want a good boxing game to play. But if they are just going to use bs stats it is just another money grab. I am going to look into the other stats now of the boxers they have in beta and see how bad it is.
MikeyP Jan 5, 2023 @ 8:06am 
Rocky Marciano is on the Mount Rushmore of boxers, period. One of the best, if not thee best to ever do it. Can not wait to play as him again in the full version.
King Fenny Jan 5, 2023 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by MikeyP:
Rocky Marciano is on the Mount Rushmore of boxers, period. One of the best, if not thee best to ever do it. Can not wait to play as him again in the full version.
He is my number 1. That is why I am so mad his stats are so disrespectful. The game stats are a joke as they have Wilder with 96 conditioning 97 endurance. Than to have Rocky at 87 Conditioning and 88 endurance. Wilder max power punches thrown in a round is around 40 and Rocky is over 100. So how are they coming up with these stats??
Originally posted by King Fenny:
Originally posted by MikeyP:
Rocky Marciano is on the Mount Rushmore of boxers, period. One of the best, if not thee best to ever do it. Can not wait to play as him again in the full version.
He is my number 1. That is why I am so mad his stats are so disrespectful. The game stats are a joke as they have Wilder with 96 conditioning 97 endurance. Than to have Rocky at 87 Conditioning and 88 endurance. Wilder max power punches thrown in a round is around 40 and Rocky is over 100. So how are they coming up with these stats??

Remember when they had him face off against Ali in a computer simulation and he won? I still have the DVD. Shame he passed away before it was unveiled.
Mr.Nobody Jan 5, 2023 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by Theflamesofsorrow:
Originally posted by King Fenny:
He is my number 1. That is why I am so mad his stats are so disrespectful. The game stats are a joke as they have Wilder with 96 conditioning 97 endurance. Than to have Rocky at 87 Conditioning and 88 endurance. Wilder max power punches thrown in a round is around 40 and Rocky is over 100. So how are they coming up with these stats??

Remember when they had him face off against Ali in a computer simulation and he won? I still have the DVD. Shame he passed away before it was unveiled.
Its a computer. I think if they fought 10 times Ali wins most of those fights.
Originally posted by Mr.Nobody:
Originally posted by Theflamesofsorrow:

Remember when they had him face off against Ali in a computer simulation and he won? I still have the DVD. Shame he passed away before it was unveiled.
Its a computer. I think if they fought 10 times Ali wins most of those fights.

In truth it gave out all possibilities. Decision wins, KO wins, etc. But the one that was featured was Rocky winning.
King Fenny Jan 6, 2023 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by Theflamesofsorrow:
Originally posted by King Fenny:
He is my number 1. That is why I am so mad his stats are so disrespectful. The game stats are a joke as they have Wilder with 96 conditioning 97 endurance. Than to have Rocky at 87 Conditioning and 88 endurance. Wilder max power punches thrown in a round is around 40 and Rocky is over 100. So how are they coming up with these stats??

Remember when they had him face off against Ali in a computer simulation and he won? I still have the DVD. Shame he passed away before it was unveiled.
Again the stats they used where crap as no way in hell Ali beats Rocky.
Vedo Jan 7, 2023 @ 7:44am 
Unfortunately this might be one of those things where the fighters had things put in their contracts. So even though Wilder can't fúckíng boxing for shít and has the stamina of a teletubbi, his stats are not allowed to be bad.
Last edited by Vedo; Jan 7, 2023 @ 7:51am
Originally posted by King Fenny:
Originally posted by Theflamesofsorrow:

Remember when they had him face off against Ali in a computer simulation and he won? I still have the DVD. Shame he passed away before it was unveiled.
Again the stats they used where crap as no way in hell Ali beats Rocky.

Now that I think about it, would be cool if Undisputed could have a "fantasy match-up" game mode. Something like what KO Kings 2001 on PS2 had. I mean, you could just select your fighters and be done with it, but I would like to see something that shares insight on each possibility of the potential if certain fighters could of faced off against one another. Not to mention sets the circumstances of their bout (like if Jack Dempsey and Joe Frazier got to fight, no doubt it would of been for a full 15 rounds, not the 12 round modern setting we have today).
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Date Posted: Dec 16, 2022 @ 7:11pm
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