What happened to Yu-Gi-Oh?

[The Rotten]

Note: i mainly play on PS5. Just thought i post this since I'm on my PC at the moment.

What is up with the way people play this game?

Everyone does the same stuff. They play the same decks. They take forever to do everything. There are some of the most unfair cards ever that people can bring out on their first turn when going first. Wins them the duel unless you are on purpose looking to screw them over and ruin their good time.

Nobody experiments. They all look up guides to make lame decks with no soul that suck the fun out of the game.

I have to play anti-meta "bully" decks and slow the game down to a crawl where they aren't allowed to do anything at all. And I do win much more than I lose. But it's not fun. Not even a little bit. More fun than playing the game legitimately in any way.

Also, too many lame-ass anime girl cards. I know it has always been part of the series. But it was never this cringe and cancerous. A grown man playing a deck with little anime girls in it needs to be investigated by the FBI immediately. A young girl is free from criticism there. But we all know it is creepy massively overweight or underweight dudes that need a shower and need to get a girlfriend. That is the average card game player and we all know it.

If they had various classic modes available at all times, the game would actually be great for those that haven't drank the kool-aid of modern, boring, long-ass-turn Yu-Gi-Oh. The people fine with how things are can stay there away from normal people.

Edit: These replies have been entertaining. Love you guys.
Until then, I'll just play with my friends without all the BS of the main game. It's a shame, because the game itself is of a really high quality.

Thanks for reading my rant. If you disagree, you do you. I'm sure your comments will stick in my mind for decades and keep me up at night and not just go in one ear and out the other. I know there are plenty of people that feel the same as me. Maybe not about the anime girl thing. Probably feel personally attacked.

But, OG fans should get more support instead of a short-term event. Permanent modes that bring the game back to it's former glory. The option should be there.

[KingRagnar]

Once they start stacking I just surrender. I could care less about stats. Like get a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ life loser

[The Quirkless]

Publicado originalmente por Astrallight:

No one makes thier own decks anymore because why waste hours checking all the cards when you can find a guide with something that you know works.

Meanwhile me- I have spent days trying to perfect my seed cannon Rikka/Aromage deck of ADHD chaos

[TNBXIII]

Publicado originalmente por Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!:

Publicado originalmente por TNBXIII:

Anime girl sells, that is it. I however would like an occult deck like Bakura with different monster artworks but better and meta. Although, there is gimmick puppets, I do not find them particularly scary.

So Yubel

The Yubel archetype is not scary,
In before Komoney makes anime girls with scary monster theme costumes, because Komoney.
I would not complain, but I can definitely see it.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por TNBXIII:

Publicado originalmente por Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!:

So Yubel

The Yubel archetype is not scary,
In before Komoney makes anime girls with scary monster theme costumes, because Komoney.
I would not complain, but I can definitely see it.

Ok but neither are any of Bakura's cards. Yubel is the closest thing to an occult archetype that's meta

[Silyon]

Publicado originalmente por ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Publicado originalmente por Afflicted:

Only thing you didn't mention is how absurd the power creep is in this game. One day decks like tri brigade or sword soul are considered meta and not even year later your meta deck is low tier rogue deck at best.

Would you rather have set rotation to where the power creep is contained but you have less options in what and how you play the game overall?

Yes, actually. It's one of the best parts of MTG, they print something broken and you only have to deal with it for the few months it takes to cycle out of Standard and you never see it again. In yugioh, once a card sees print it's a fixture of the game and never goes away. Even if power crept, it may be a timebomb just waiting for the right archetype or new format to blow up. Droll and Maxx C were both this, trash in their own time but wildly oppressive today.

Besides, Power creep itself is a form of set rotation, just informalized and inconsistant. You wouldn't dream of running Dragon Rulers in today's format, even though at one point they were teir-zero meta. And this opinion shifts again with the new support for them revealed on the horizon, very much like MTG's return to Theros, Innstrad, or Kamigawa sets referencing old fan-favorite formats and mechanics. Just because Yugioh isn't strict about it's set rotation doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

[Papa Shekels]

Publicado originalmente por ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Would you rather have set rotation to where the power creep is contained but you have less options in what and how you play the game overall?

It's worth noting that this does not actually contain power creep either. It might be a bit slower than the way they run things now, but power creep is an inevitable and actually desirable outcome due to various other factors. The biggest one being the players themselves - many people buying new product WANT it to be cooler, flashier, stronger than what they have already spent months or years doing. And then when one group or play style (or in this game's case archetype) gets left in the dust due to everything around it being brought up, naturally that needs to be updated so that those players can rejoin the game, and that causes whatever is now brought relatively further down to be in need of being brought up, and it repeats endlessly. It's why every game with rotation still has power creep between sets over time anyway. Those games have the option to nuke an entire format and start over easier with rotation, but konami can and has as well - we have yet to reach a format on the power of ishizu tear again ever since the "slaughter list" that many people compared to the original ruler bans.

Sorry, I know it's a tangent over a minor point and not exactly what you were saying here, but this comes up here often enough that I thought I'd nip it in the bud before somebody extrapolates it

[TNBXIII]

Publicado originalmente por Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!:

Publicado originalmente por TNBXIII:

The Yubel archetype is not scary,
In before Komoney makes anime girls with scary monster theme costumes, because Komoney.
I would not complain, but I can definitely see it.

Ok but neither are any of Bakura's cards. Yubel is the closest thing to an occult archetype that's meta

Yeah, Bakura's card were cool looking but not meta at all. Still, I am not a fan of Yubel. Although, I can see why people like it.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Publicado originalmente por ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Would you rather have set rotation to where the power creep is contained but you have less options in what and how you play the game overall?

Publicado originalmente por Papa Shekels:

Sorry, I know it's a tangent over a minor point and not exactly what you were saying here, but this comes up here often enough that I thought I'd nip it in the bud before somebody extrapolates it

Publicado originalmente por Silyon:

Just because Yugioh isn't strict about it's set rotation doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

I appreciate your guys' input. The question was rhetorical cause at this point I'm getting tired of people saying stuff like 'this game has so many cards and barely any of them good cause the meta is so broken!' like this means anything to people who actually played TCGs through the years and I just want to see if they would rather just not be able to play their outdated decks by force due to set rotation or by choice due to inevitable powercreep found in a good chunk of games, especially the more popular ones and find out the hard way that power creep happens one way or another. Perhaps I could have worded it and this better, that's on me.

[Michael Daemon]

It's not the players, it's the publisher. The players just play the cards that are given, the decks that work. Nobody's gonna play a deck that loses. And there are always rogue decks, you just have to be creative. But you're gonna mostly run into people playing what works. Take it up with konami if you want a different format.

[Papa Shekels]

Publicado originalmente por Afflicted:

By "every card" I meant extra deck specifically. Sure we have a lot of monster looking cards but most of the generic extra deck monsters are anime girls. Almost every deck ends on ip masquerena, little knight, apollousa, promethean princess ect. Then there are extenders/tech cards like baronne, underworld goddess, hiita ect. When you see it every single game (plus most of them have summon animation) it feels like there are only anime girls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is what you see after you alt tab to master duel after waiting for 10min xD

Okay, and looking at all the popular ED staples that you conveniently ignored, we have...
ZEUS
TY-PHON
Accesscode
Bagooska
Dragoon
Chaos Angel
Linkuriboh
Almiraj
Garura

not to even mention that one of the most popular decks at the moment plays pretty much exclusively big dragons to fill every single one of these roles

It's already been said before, but this kind of blind fixation says more about the speaker than about the game

[Akemua]

Publicado originalmente por Afflicted:

Publicado originalmente por Afflicted:

About "lame-ass anime girl cards" I wish we got more archetypes with actual monsters. No, girls with horns, thigh highs and tails aren't monsters. I get that it existed since the very beginning (dark magician girl ect) but at this point every card must be a anime girl like come on konami. It's lazy. You can do better.

What are you talking about? We get PLENTY of just 'monsters', just because you see an anime girl that's like 1 or 2 out of an archetype or the occasional archetype centered around a or multiple women doesn't mean the game is completely filled with them. Yugioh after a certain point the focus wasn't about random creepy crawly abominations like the first sets were, just look at Toon World, neko gal, gemini elf, the harpie ladies, I could go on. But each archetype tells a story and shows a separate world/universe/reality and how each card interacts with each other in visual storytelling not only from the art but how the deck plays in most cases. Sure, it may not be your cup of tea but not everything is or is going to be. And the sooner you and OP can understand that, I'm sure you guys'll be better off.

By "every card" I meant extra deck specifically. Sure we have a lot of monster looking cards but most of the generic extra deck monsters are anime girls. Almost every deck ends on ip masquerena, little knight, apollousa, promethean princess ect. Then there are extenders/tech cards like baronne, underworld goddess, hiita ect. When you see it every single game (plus most of them have summon animation) it feels like there are only anime girls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is what you see after you alt tab to master duel after waiting for 10min xD

What the actual inception is gong on here.

You're quoting and arguing with yourself.

[Soji]

Publicado originalmente por Akemua:

Publicado originalmente por Afflicted:

What are you talking about? We get PLENTY of just 'monsters', just because you see an anime girl that's like 1 or 2 out of an archetype or the occasional archetype centered around a or multiple women doesn't mean the game is completely filled with them. Yugioh after a certain point the focus wasn't about random creepy crawly abominations like the first sets were, just look at Toon World, neko gal, gemini elf, the harpie ladies, I could go on. But each archetype tells a story and shows a separate world/universe/reality and how each card interacts with each other in visual storytelling not only from the art but how the deck plays in most cases. Sure, it may not be your cup of tea but not everything is or is going to be. And the sooner you and OP can understand that, I'm sure you guys'll be better off.

By "every card" I meant extra deck specifically. Sure we have a lot of monster looking cards but most of the generic extra deck monsters are anime girls. Almost every deck ends on ip masquerena, little knight, apollousa, promethean princess ect. Then there are extenders/tech cards like baronne, underworld goddess, hiita ect. When you see it every single game (plus most of them have summon animation) it feels like there are only anime girls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is what you see after you alt tab to master duel after waiting for 10min xD

What the actual inception is gong on here.

You're quoting and arguing with yourself.

they misquoted kloey and made it look like they themselves said it, i was confused too lmao

[Akemua]

Publicado originalmente por Soji:

Publicado originalmente por Akemua:

What the actual inception is gong on here.

You're quoting and arguing with yourself.

they misquoted kloey and made it look like they themselves said it, i was confused too lmao

Ah, now that I went back and re-read, I can see what they're doing. I was so confused.

[Susen]

what happened is it was killed by the meta

[e-dood]

Publicado originalmente por Susen:

what happened is it was killed by the meta

Damned Exodia FTK.