Quitting game

[Dragon_Soul]

I've tried to get along with this game and with all this new "items" they added to the card game of Yu Gi Oh, but I can't stand the boringness of watching solo players, people who only play horrible decks which consists in controlling 20 cards that negate effects or have broken effects like: destroy magic/trap, monsters, banish, send cards from my deck to my cementary or that the card cannot be destroyed with any sort of card.

People just want easy wins and its not for me this kind of Yu Gi Oh, can't stand playing like 40 games and only 2 to 4 of them are good, it is just annoying.

I'm grateful that I have joy playing this game in my childhood with my friends on the elementary school and with my brother, but now it is not what it used to be, this is pure garbage.

Worst of thing it has no PvE only 5 duels with the computer the rest are just tutorials or duels with borrowed decks... I can't believe they just remove from the store "Yu Gi OH: Duel generation" to deliver this crap of Master Spam... amazing...

Good luck to the rest of the people that plays this... thing...

[Kaulu]

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Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

Konami should start paying people here

What do u mean?

They think the people who aren't of the same view as them may as well be paid shills working for Konami. Because if you aren't foaming at the mouth in disgust at modern yugioh you obviously love it completely and refuse to see anything wrong with it. For them, there is nothing in between.

[IsthisKosher]

Postat inițial de Kaulu:

Postat inițial de itzRiceKrispies:

What do u mean?

They think the people who aren't of the same view as them may as well be paid shills working for Konami. Because if you aren't foaming at the mouth in disgust at modern yugioh you obviously love it completely and refuse to see anything wrong with it. For them, there is nothing in between.

More the fact that a person just said, "I don't like this game, i want to stop playing goodbye" and then it gets infested with

Postat inițial de Terminal Desolation:

Postat inițial de ∀meliarate:

Things like Kali Yuga inflicting a turnwide stun I can get, but since when was 'destroying a card' a broken effect?

if I lost because of it, it's a broken effect

my deck is too good to lose to anything not broken, that's why it has a 100% win rate against decks I deem fair

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

"I don't like it so it's garbage."
Sounds like a classic skill issue.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

Postat inițial de Kaulu:

They think the people who aren't of the same view as them may as well be paid shills working for Konami. Because if you aren't foaming at the mouth in disgust at modern yugioh you obviously love it completely and refuse to see anything wrong with it. For them, there is nothing in between.

More the fact that a person just said, "I don't like this game, i want to stop playing goodbye" and then it gets infested with

Postat inițial de Terminal Desolation:

if I lost because of it, it's a broken effect

my deck is too good to lose to anything not broken, that's why it has a 100% win rate against decks I deem fair

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

"I don't like it so it's garbage."
Sounds like a classic skill issue.

To be fair here, OP's post can be boiled down to 'game too hard/difficult so I'm not having fun. How dare people want to play to win in a PVP game. I miss old yugioh. Game is trash. Goodbye.' I'm all for healthy discussion on the faults of this game but no one even knows OP for them to come out of no where and let everyone know they aren't playing anymore. The most sensible thing would be to just leave a negative review instead of making it everyone else's problem by announcing their departure.

This isn't to dismiss OP's feelings or problems but through my years I've seen too many people make a big stink like this for attention and catch that individual playing the same game again after a week or two despite how bad or toxic the game apparently is. I do hope OP is able to find a way to enjoy Yugioh to some extent like using the handful of literally free to use simulators that's out there that also supports older formats instead of going to the flashy corpo product but who am I to tell OP what to do at this point.

[Fluffal Kyurem]

This isn't an airport. You don't have to announce your departure.

[Musical Nero]

Postat inițial de ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

More the fact that a person just said, "I don't like this game, i want to stop playing goodbye" and then it gets infested with

To be fair here, OP's post can be boiled down to 'game too hard/difficult so I'm not having fun. How dare people want to play to win in a PVP game. I miss old yugioh. Game is trash. Goodbye.' I'm all for healthy discussion on the faults of this game but no one even knows OP for them to come out of no where and let everyone know they aren't playing anymore. The most sensible thing would be to just leave a negative review instead of making it everyone else's problem by announcing their departure.

This isn't to dismiss OP's feelings or problems but through my years I've seen too many people make a big stink like this for attention and catch that individual playing the same game again after a week or two despite how bad or toxic the game apparently is. I do hope OP is able to find a way to enjoy Yugioh to some extent like using the handful of literally free to use simulators that's out there that also supports older formats instead of going to the flashy corpo product but who am I to tell OP what to do at this point.

This is correct. The game isn't anywhere near perfect, it's super unbalanced with most games being decided by the maxx c mini game, and a lot of other games being decided by "draw the out to my floodgate." These all need fixing, but I can't abide by people calling the game "garbage" and acting like their opinion is the one truth when all they think is "it's not normal summon pass anymore so game bad."

[Soji]

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

Postat inițial de ¿¡Kloey!?²:

To be fair here, OP's post can be boiled down to 'game too hard/difficult so I'm not having fun. How dare people want to play to win in a PVP game. I miss old yugioh. Game is trash. Goodbye.' I'm all for healthy discussion on the faults of this game but no one even knows OP for them to come out of no where and let everyone know they aren't playing anymore. The most sensible thing would be to just leave a negative review instead of making it everyone else's problem by announcing their departure.

This isn't to dismiss OP's feelings or problems but through my years I've seen too many people make a big stink like this for attention and catch that individual playing the same game again after a week or two despite how bad or toxic the game apparently is. I do hope OP is able to find a way to enjoy Yugioh to some extent like using the handful of literally free to use simulators that's out there that also supports older formats instead of going to the flashy corpo product but who am I to tell OP what to do at this point.

This is correct. The game isn't anywhere near perfect, it's super unbalanced with most games being decided by the maxx c mini game, and a lot of other games being decided by "draw the out to my floodgate." These all need fixing, but I can't abide by people calling the game "garbage" and acting like their opinion is the one truth when all they think is "it's not normal summon pass anymore so game bad."

I think most people who still play and enjoy this game also feel this way, I dont think any of them would say this game is perfect, but a lot of returning players seem to take people checking their negative attitude as a fanboy who defends anything Konami does.

IDK what it is about yugioh that keeps these people 20+ years removed from the game coming back to it just to say its no longer the same game how they remembered it from all those years ago. Magic is very different from how it was in Alpha/Beta and I rarely see people have these same kinds of feelings about Serra Angel not being extremely playable anymore.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Postat inițial de Soji:

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

This is correct. The game isn't anywhere near perfect, it's super unbalanced with most games being decided by the maxx c mini game, and a lot of other games being decided by "draw the out to my floodgate." These all need fixing, but I can't abide by people calling the game "garbage" and acting like their opinion is the one truth when all they think is "it's not normal summon pass anymore so game bad."

I think most people who still play and enjoy this game also feel this way, I dont think any of them would say this game is perfect, but a lot of returning players seem to take people checking their negative attitude as a fanboy who defends anything Konami does.

IDK what it is about yugioh that keeps these people 20+ years removed from the game coming back to it just to say its no longer the same game how they remembered it from all those years ago. Magic is very different from how it was in Alpha/Beta and I rarely see people have these same kinds of feelings about Serra Angel not being extremely playable anymore.

If you ask me I think it's the implementation of set rotations and keeping things balanced around each other in those set rotations. I am unfamiliar with Serra but the biggest problem here is that you can still pick up and play the game with an old deck and be curb stomped since Konami continues to fail at properly introducing new and returning players and people are still fantasized over how the anime portrayed the game.

[Soji]

Postat inițial de ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Postat inițial de Soji:

I think most people who still play and enjoy this game also feel this way, I dont think any of them would say this game is perfect, but a lot of returning players seem to take people checking their negative attitude as a fanboy who defends anything Konami does.

IDK what it is about yugioh that keeps these people 20+ years removed from the game coming back to it just to say its no longer the same game how they remembered it from all those years ago. Magic is very different from how it was in Alpha/Beta and I rarely see people have these same kinds of feelings about Serra Angel not being extremely playable anymore.

If you ask me I think it's the implementation of set rotations and keeping things balanced around each other in those set rotations. I am unfamiliar with Serra but the biggest problem here is that you can still pick up and play the game with an old deck and be curb stomped since Konami continues to fail at properly introducing new and returning players and people are still fantasized over how the anime portrayed the game.

Yea that's what I think too mostly, them appealing to nostalgia by using DM and BE to advertise the game to this day. Set rotations in theory do keep things more balanced, but without kinda derailing the topic, that isn't happening as much with modern WotC because of the sheer amount of products being pumped out and choices being made without even taking time in RnD to test them. Nadu being a perfect example of modern WotC just doing things in a Vacuum without looking at the whole picture. They changed its effect right before printing it with no internal testing and it ended up warping all the games formats

[Musical Nero]

Postat inițial de ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Postat inițial de Soji:

I think most people who still play and enjoy this game also feel this way, I dont think any of them would say this game is perfect, but a lot of returning players seem to take people checking their negative attitude as a fanboy who defends anything Konami does.

IDK what it is about yugioh that keeps these people 20+ years removed from the game coming back to it just to say its no longer the same game how they remembered it from all those years ago. Magic is very different from how it was in Alpha/Beta and I rarely see people have these same kinds of feelings about Serra Angel not being extremely playable anymore.

If you ask me I think it's the implementation of set rotations and keeping things balanced around each other in those set rotations. I am unfamiliar with Serra but the biggest problem here is that you can still pick up and play the game with an old deck and be curb stomped since Konami continues to fail at properly introducing new and returning players and people are still fantasized over how the anime portrayed the game.

I say let the people have their nostalgia, there's nothing wrong with that. Legacy support is awesome, and people love the show for a reason. But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, if I see one more boomer say the game is bad because "it's not how it used to be" I'm going postal.
I played with the old Yugi/Kaiba starters as a kid, and I picked up the game competitively in early 2018. You can't imagine a bigger disparity between eras of the game, but I kept playing. Why? Because it was FUN. And despite it's flaws it STILL IS.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

Postat inițial de ¿¡Kloey!?²:

If you ask me I think it's the implementation of set rotations and keeping things balanced around each other in those set rotations. I am unfamiliar with Serra but the biggest problem here is that you can still pick up and play the game with an old deck and be curb stomped since Konami continues to fail at properly introducing new and returning players and people are still fantasized over how the anime portrayed the game.

I say let the people have their nostalgia, there's nothing wrong with that. Legacy support is awesome, and people love the show for a reason. But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, if I see one more boomer say the game is bad because "it's not how it used to be" I'm going postal.
I played with the old Yugi/Kaiba starters as a kid, and I picked up the game competitively in early 2018. You can't imagine a bigger disparity between eras of the game, but I kept playing. Why? Because it was FUN. And despite it's flaws it STILL IS.

Oh people can have their nostalgia, ain't nothing wrong with that and I have continued to preach that Konami should do more to expand the game or cater to those players like they did with the early versions of Duel Links as that's how I got not only back but fully invested in the game and I think a system like that can definitely help introduce players new and old to the modern format by getting them accustomed to it overtime. Shoot I still remember having Neo the Magic Swordsman and Ookazi in my deck back on the playground but I would take modern Yugioh to old any day but I understand that not everyone would agree and would prefer the opposite, I just wish more of those people could understand the reverse as well lmao.

[IsthisKosher]

It is true that there's many people who go through any lengths to defend the game even against completely valid complaints

[Musical Nero]

Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

It is true that there's many people who go through any lengths to defend the game even against completely valid complaints

Your personal lack of ability to enjoy the game means nothing to the tens of thousands of players that love the game. Just because it has some issues doesn't mean it's indefensible.
The arguments that you sad doomers always deliver usually boil down to lack of skill and adaptability, and instead of putting in the necessary work you would rather pretend that the game is at fault for your lack of enjoyment.

I lose games all the time. I lose to the coin toss, I lose to maxx c, I lose to 10 minute combos with no hand traps, I lose to Tenpai OTKs and I lose to simply getting outplayed. Just like everyone else, but I don't run to the discussions and cry about it. I GO NEXT because it just doesn't matter. Win the next one, or have fun trying that's what it's all about.

[IsthisKosher]

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

It is true that there's many people who go through any lengths to defend the game even against completely valid complaints

Your personal lack of ability to enjoy the game means nothing to the tens of thousands of players that love the game. Just because it has some issues doesn't mean it's indefensible.
The arguments that you sad doomers always deliver usually boil down to lack of skill and adaptability, and instead of putting in the necessary work you would rather pretend that the game is at fault for your lack of enjoyment.

I lose games all the time. I lose to the coin toss, I lose to maxx c, I lose to 10 minute combos with no hand traps, I lose to Tenpai OTKs and I lose to simply getting outplayed. Just like everyone else, but I don't run to the discussions and cry about it. I GO NEXT because it just doesn't matter. Win the next one, or have fun trying that's what it's all about.

Or they get upset at pointing out it's issues and take up a crusade

[Musical Nero]

Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

Your personal lack of ability to enjoy the game means nothing to the tens of thousands of players that love the game. Just because it has some issues doesn't mean it's indefensible.
The arguments that you sad doomers always deliver usually boil down to lack of skill and adaptability, and instead of putting in the necessary work you would rather pretend that the game is at fault for your lack of enjoyment.

I lose games all the time. I lose to the coin toss, I lose to maxx c, I lose to 10 minute combos with no hand traps, I lose to Tenpai OTKs and I lose to simply getting outplayed. Just like everyone else, but I don't run to the discussions and cry about it. I GO NEXT because it just doesn't matter. Win the next one, or have fun trying that's what it's all about.

Or they get upset at pointing out it's issues and take up a crusade

Neither you nor the OP has "pointed out issues" with the game. I MYSELF actually pointed out the real issues the game has. Wake up.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Postat inițial de IsthisKosher:

Postat inițial de Musical Nero:

Your personal lack of ability to enjoy the game means nothing to the tens of thousands of players that love the game. Just because it has some issues doesn't mean it's indefensible.
The arguments that you sad doomers always deliver usually boil down to lack of skill and adaptability, and instead of putting in the necessary work you would rather pretend that the game is at fault for your lack of enjoyment.

I lose games all the time. I lose to the coin toss, I lose to maxx c, I lose to 10 minute combos with no hand traps, I lose to Tenpai OTKs and I lose to simply getting outplayed. Just like everyone else, but I don't run to the discussions and cry about it. I GO NEXT because it just doesn't matter. Win the next one, or have fun trying that's what it's all about.

Or they get upset at pointing out it's issues and take up a crusade

Literally the opposite can be true too. Heaven forbid people actually enjoy something but then individuals who can't enjoy things or get angry cause things aren't going their way have to go out of their way to tell everyone how bad something is. There's valid criticism and then there's just using the forums as their therapist or their rage/break room and not as a means to have a healthy discussion in the first place which it's intended to be.

I've personally said it in here before, OP's feelings are valid but what isn't is continuing to shield what is obviously a means for attention and an outlet for their frustrations behind the veil of valid criticism.