**** Tearlaments and Ishizu Cards

[Wse]

Absolute B.S. and not fun or interactive to play against

[draconicepic]

I won't deny that I absolutely hate the Ishizu cards. The shufflers kill so many decks due to their ability to shuffle from your opponent's graveyard as a quick effect. If they weren't quick effects, it wouldn't be so bad.

The Tearlament cards also have some ridiculously balancing issues. Everyone hated Mirrorjade for it's banish effect because it generated so much advantage. Kaleido-Heart is like Mirrorjade on steroids: it can recycle itself, act as a combo extender, and can spin cards at no cost. At the very least, Mirrorjade forced Branded players to clog up their extra deck with discard fodder.

[Astrallight]

Deck will have its fun in the sun until banlist beats it up and then you wont see it again cause people moved on to the next big thing.

[draconicepic]

Astrallight の投稿を引用：

Deck will have its fun in the sun until banlist beats it up and then you wont see it again cause people moved on to the next big thing.

If the TCG/OCG is to go by, Tearlament will linger for a while unless Konami absolutely hammers both the Ishizu and Tearlament cards. The big issue on Master Duel is that Konami doesn't like to ban URs because of the dust refund. Anything that is a Tearlament UR is unlike to be banned.

[BagelBeater 21]

I literally quit until they do SOMETHING

[draconicepic]

BagelBeater 21 の投稿を引用：

I literally quit until they do SOMETHING

I can't blame you. In the current Meta you are either playing some variant of Tearlament or a control deck. If you intend to play. Abyss Dweller, Dark Law, or Both are pretty much required.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Out of curiosity, what deck are you running?

[Papa Smurf]

draconicepic の投稿を引用：

Astrallight の投稿を引用：

Deck will have its fun in the sun until banlist beats it up and then you wont see it again cause people moved on to the next big thing.

If the TCG/OCG is to go by, Tearlament will linger for a while unless Konami absolutely hammers both the Ishizu and Tearlament cards. The big issue on Master Duel is that Konami doesn't like to ban URs because of the dust refund. Anything that is a Tearlament UR is unlike to be banned.

Konami know by now the deck is a problem. Best we can hope for is Ishizu hits once that pack ends,and then Tear hits once the Tear pack ends. Until then people just need to deal with it or stop playing.

Also plenty of URs have been limited/banned already. Halq? VFD? Adventure?

[wildnike]

This was a premium business choice from Konami.

People splurged on the hot T0 deck, whose rarities have been for most of the core cards (Kit at SR, Havnis and Merrli at N) to allow them to be easily hit when they eventually are, in a way which prevents a lot of UR refunding.

Additionally, Konami can not only see what a T0 deck does to MD -- as if this game is planned to last several years we'll no doubt get another T0 format eventually -- but also can see how to curate the deck into something less dominant but still viable. I don't think Konami has yet to absolutely murder a deck. There are still Drytron and VW decks being published to MDM and played to this day, despite their high time being over.

[Zaebore]

I'm fine with tearlaments but paired with the Ishizu cards it's a bit much. If you tone down the Ishizu cards then the deck would be more manageable and more possible to beat. It'll feel about the same as a standard branded despia deck if you just have tear without the Ishizu cards I would imagine.

[BagelBeater 21]

Knud den Store 🧙‍♂ の投稿を引用：

Out of curiosity, what deck are you running?

Me? Punks with DD stuff for tears

[Ehgk-Zakhari]

they're literally interacting with your cards though

[.]

A good reason as to why you shouldn't pay for a single part of this game is that Konami deliberately overpowers an archetype rather than balance the game properly, all for the sake of profit.

They also only cater to combo players and no other type of player.

[Aldain]

Honestly you could probably just rename the thread to "**** Kitkallos and Ishizu cards".

If insane mill/shuffle wasn't this omnipresent they'd be less of a problem, though overall they're probably on a highway to everything-is-limited town at this rate regardless.

[HO ANU]

I already stayed in Gold to avoid the competitive environment in platinum/diamond. But if i wont even be able to make it to Gold 1 with other decks i will quit. Because i just surrender the moment i see a tearlament card.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Aldain の投稿を引用：

Honestly you could probably just rename the thread to "**** Kitkallos and Ishizu cards".

If insane mill/shuffle wasn't this omnipresent they'd be less of a problem, though overall they're probably on a highway to everything-is-limited town at this rate regardless.

I think Kitkallos is fine IF, and that's a huge IF, the Ishizu cards weren't around.

Sure, mill 8 is big, but Tearlaments by themselves do need it if you don't have Ishizu cards to help out.