Banish From Extra Deck: Which Cards to Banish?

[Ehgk-Zakhari]

guessing which ones to banish;

Tealaments: kitkallos
Spright: elf
Kashtira: Shangri-Ira or diablosis?
Branded Despia: which one??? albion, lubellion, or mirrorjade? something else?
Swordsoul: Chixiao or baronne?

any other good monsters to banish from extra deck?

[Neptuna]

I imagine Branded would be Lubellion since they often play only 1 and then they can't recycle from banish

[Silyon]

Originally posted by Neptuna:

I imagine Branded would be Lubellion since they often play only 1 and then they can't recycle from banish

Just means we depend on Branded Regained instead, but it is true that hitting Lubellion is a hard one to deal with. Hitting Albion robs us of our best play-starter, which is part of the reason why we run two minimum. Hitting Mirrorjade takes out our best non-poly removal option and biggest beater, and Quarteris takes away our ability to deal with large beatsticks since almost every monster we have is sitting at 2500 ATK. Part of the justification I use to splash in Blue-Eyes, honestly.

There is no single card you can take out of a Branded's extra deck and properly hambone them. Every single one is important for different situations. So the best thing you could hit depends on what your deck is going to be threatening them with. Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

[Neptuna]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

You're correct in that the boardwipe will kill Alba Zoa (hate that ruling btw) but it is immune to the banish effect

[draconicepic]

Originally posted by Neptuna:

Originally posted by Silyon:

Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

You're correct in that the boardwipe will kill Alba Zoa (hate that ruling btw) but it is immune to the banish effect

Honestly, Alba Zoa's protection is quite weak due to it only protecting against active effects and the Send effect is kind of terrible in the current format. They really should have made it so cards sent by Alba Zoa's effect can't activate and allow you to choose the effect. The card feels overly balanced in a bad way.

[draconicepic]

For Branded, it depends how their extra deck is setup. If they only have one Mirrorjade, then I'd banish it over Lubellion. Generally, it's best to either choose the biggest problem card or an combo piece.

[ChaosBahamut]

Originally posted by draconicepic:

Originally posted by Neptuna:

You're correct in that the boardwipe will kill Alba Zoa (hate that ruling btw) but it is immune to the banish effect

Honestly, Alba Zoa's protection is quite weak due to it only protecting against active effects and the Send effect is kind of terrible in the current format. They really should have made it so cards sent by Alba Zoa's effect can't activate and allow you to choose the effect. The card feels overly balanced in a bad way.

The risk in using Alba Zoa's effect is why I prefer to have Dogmatikamatrix or Branded in Central Dogmatika do a bit of recon first. (and once I get enough Kashtira cards I may make a modified version of my Dogmatika deck that swaps out the Bystials for the Kashtiras)

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Originally posted by Neptuna:

I imagine Branded would be Lubellion since they often play only 1 and then they can't recycle from banish

Just means we depend on Branded Regained instead, but it is true that hitting Lubellion is a hard one to deal with. Hitting Albion robs us of our best play-starter, which is part of the reason why we run two minimum. Hitting Mirrorjade takes out our best non-poly removal option and biggest beater, and Quarteris takes away our ability to deal with large beatsticks since almost every monster we have is sitting at 2500 ATK. Part of the justification I use to splash in Blue-Eyes, honestly.

There is no single card you can take out of a Branded's extra deck and properly hambone them. Every single one is important for different situations. So the best thing you could hit depends on what your deck is going to be threatening them with. Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

So, I know this is off-topic but how do you answer a big Towers like Arrival? You clearly can't do it in-engine because even Super Polymerization is a card effect.

[ChaosBahamut]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Silyon:

Just means we depend on Branded Regained instead, but it is true that hitting Lubellion is a hard one to deal with. Hitting Albion robs us of our best play-starter, which is part of the reason why we run two minimum. Hitting Mirrorjade takes out our best non-poly removal option and biggest beater, and Quarteris takes away our ability to deal with large beatsticks since almost every monster we have is sitting at 2500 ATK. Part of the justification I use to splash in Blue-Eyes, honestly.

There is no single card you can take out of a Branded's extra deck and properly hambone them. Every single one is important for different situations. So the best thing you could hit depends on what your deck is going to be threatening them with. Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

So, I know this is off-topic but how do you answer a big Towers like Arrival? You clearly can't do it in-engine because even Super Polymerization is a card effect.

Splashing in a Kaiju would work well.

[Silyon]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

So, I know this is off-topic but how do you answer a big Towers like Arrival? You clearly can't do it in-engine because even Super Polymerization is a card effect.

Frankly, I've not seen anyone using Arrival. Cyberse is usually happy to go I:P + Update Jammer into Accesscode, pop the field, and double swing for game. Generally speaking though, If Mirrorjade can't banish or boardwipe the problem, and Quarteris can't zero out the ATK and run it over, AND it can't be Super-Poly'ed, you just take the L and move on. It's a niche case you can't realistically prepare for in Bo1.

[Ehgk-Zakhari]

what about galaxy tomahawk?

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Silyon:

Just means we depend on Branded Regained instead, but it is true that hitting Lubellion is a hard one to deal with. Hitting Albion robs us of our best play-starter, which is part of the reason why we run two minimum. Hitting Mirrorjade takes out our best non-poly removal option and biggest beater, and Quarteris takes away our ability to deal with large beatsticks since almost every monster we have is sitting at 2500 ATK. Part of the justification I use to splash in Blue-Eyes, honestly.

There is no single card you can take out of a Branded's extra deck and properly hambone them. Every single one is important for different situations. So the best thing you could hit depends on what your deck is going to be threatening them with. Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

So, I know this is off-topic but how do you answer a big Towers like Arrival? You clearly can't do it in-engine because even Super Polymerization is a card effect.

Starving venom is the best out to just a large towers as hes the only way branded is going to make a monster large enough I think its possible to setup titanklad to beat 4k towers

[Chaos 混沌 カオス]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Originally posted by Neptuna:

I imagine Branded would be Lubellion since they often play only 1 and then they can't recycle from banish

Just means we depend on Branded Regained instead, but it is true that hitting Lubellion is a hard one to deal with. Hitting Albion robs us of our best play-starter, which is part of the reason why we run two minimum. Hitting Mirrorjade takes out our best non-poly removal option and biggest beater, and Quarteris takes away our ability to deal with large beatsticks since almost every monster we have is sitting at 2500 ATK. Part of the justification I use to splash in Blue-Eyes, honestly.

There is no single card you can take out of a Branded's extra deck and properly hambone them. Every single one is important for different situations. So the best thing you could hit depends on what your deck is going to be threatening them with. Assuming it's Dogmatika, Mirrorjade's the one to slap. Your big ritual has no protection to it's banish or boardwipe.

You won't believe how many duels I've encountered where people got rid of my now-vanilla Lubellion instead of like, my Blue-Eyes Jet. I swear it's a spontaneous reflex.

For me, I've more or less saw Branded Fusion as a more powerful Dragon Shrine that got me Mirrorjade as a bonus. I actually don't mind my Lubellion getting pre-banished because I don't mind just banishing Albaz/Albion into Mirrorjade and end that line there.

I know it's for lore reasons, but I kind of wish white Albion would've been more generic and had a chance to replace Mirrorjade as the "ultimate Albaz fusion". Disregarding the disgusting locks, it's just an expensive Expulsion/Reborn and an expensive and visible Kaiju.