How do you feel about the AirNeos situation?

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Well now that they are retraining GX monsters, can they retrain Air Neos with a different design and have the green one from Rush Duels?
For those who don't know the reason Air Neos disappeared was because there is enough evidence to suppose the design may have been inspired on some cheesy indie comic and upper deck was sued, Konami reached a settlement in which Air Neos simply won't be reprinted.

Now in 2025, 20 years later there is enough GX nostalgia to reprint GX stuff and Thunder Giant got a retrain, I think all HERO monsters fro back when need one.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

No because Air Neos isn't a real card, the only Air Hummingbird + Neos Fusion we have is that RUSH Duel monster. Still don't see a reason why all but Air Hummingbird got a 2 mat Contact

Also that Thunder Giant retrain is only happening cause of the GX remaster and probably Primite HERO making it relevant, we don't even know if it's useful enough to get rid yet another useful card

[itzRiceKrispies]

Its incredibly nice to FINALLY have an answer as to y that card has been silently removed from the game(s). While obviously not impossible, I would not consider it probable for another retrain or reprint to happen unless a lawyer who has read ALL of those documents chimes in here with another take. I'm not angry at the Comics guy who owns Ravedactyl. After learning that Kazuki Takahashi attended the same events back in 06 that they did, I do find it hard to not somewhat believe they took a bite.

One thing I am curious about. I heard that Takahashi's kiosk was setup right NEXT to the Beyond Comics guys. Can anybody confirm(preferably with pictures), is that true? Were they really right next to one another?

Considering that the OG suits were filed all the way back in 2008 its rather astonishing Konami was able to keep this as quiet as they did for so long. Someone clearly did not want this being talked about.

The only other thing I will say right now is if u own an Air Neos, especially a grade 10, hold onto it. I do believe going forward that it is going to be one of the most expensive cards in the game. I suspect since the Beyond comics guy confirmed there was no "must remain silent" papers that Konami was forced to sign; than I would say Konami is not even wanting to reprint it. They removed it from 2 other cards. I think they are genuinely wanting to remove it from the game. Just my opinion. Not saying I am correct.

Air Hummingbird isnt a very good card anyway. So they probably don't care that it isn't playable in Neos Spacians anymore. Heck the Contact fusion gimmick is easily the worst part of that archetype. Kind of sucks for Air Neos himself though. He is arguably the best of the single mat fusions.

[Smug Fumo :3]

copyright hell shenanigans

[Papa Shekels]

The settlement did NOT say that air neos can't be reprinted, in fact the guy has been adamantly stating whenever he could that he has never impeded that and was open to allowing konami to print it. It is purely their choice not to do so, most likely due to japanese corporate culture deciding to simply bury it and never reference the situation despite it coming out in their favor.

The hype also doesn't bode too well for it. There are plenty of other HEROes, and air neos is far from the most iconic or even playable one. There is no pressure for them to bother with it when there are so many other options to choose from that don't have any stigma attached to them

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After seen the character that Air Neos was compared to well I kinda understand, glad it's all been answered.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Originally posted by IsZ:

After seen the character that Air Neos was compared to well I kinda understand, glad it's all been answered.

I don't know the concept is not original, that is literally Angel or Falcon, guy with wings.
There is this other HERO called Rendel, or something, whose origin story is everyone's, just everyone's.

Rendel is Batman, Spawn, Punisher, Constantine, Ghost Rider and I might be missing someone.
Ravedactyl is kind of the same....Rave dactyl... my word but I do see the resemblance.
Looking back, the 2000s was a pretty rough spot for comics, a few gems and the following decade was way worse but it really does feel like the 80s was the apex.

[itzRiceKrispies]

Originally posted by Knud den Store 🧙‍♂:

Originally posted by IsZ:

After seen the character that Air Neos was compared to well I kinda understand, glad it's all been answered.

I don't know the concept is not original, that is literally Angel or Falcon, guy with wings.
There is this other HERO called Rendel, or something, whose origin story is everyone's, just everyone's.

Rendel is Batman, Spawn, Punisher, Constantine, Ghost Rider and I might be missing someone.
Ravedactyl is kind of the same....Rave dactyl... my word but I do see the resemblance.
Looking back, the 2000s was a pretty rough spot for comics, a few gems and the following decade was way worse but it really does feel like the 80s was the apex.

What does Batman have to do with Spawn and the Punisher?

[Terminal Desolation]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

The settlement did NOT say that air neos can't be reprinted, in fact the guy has been adamantly stating whenever he could that he has never impeded that and was open to allowing konami to print it. It is purely their choice not to do so, most likely due to japanese corporate culture deciding to simply bury it and never reference the situation despite it coming out in their favor.

The hype also doesn't bode too well for it. There are plenty of other HEROes, and air neos is far from the most iconic or even playable one. There is no pressure for them to bother with it when there are so many other options to choose from that don't have any stigma attached to them

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the settlement is undisclosed currently. The last update I heard on this was that we know they settled but not the details of the settlement, which is why a lot of people are speculating the settlement probably held a "do not reprint" policy. If we have the text of the settlement somewhere, I'd like to see it.

[itzRiceKrispies]

Originally posted by Terminal Desolation:

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

The settlement did NOT say that air neos can't be reprinted, in fact the guy has been adamantly stating whenever he could that he has never impeded that and was open to allowing konami to print it. It is purely their choice not to do so, most likely due to japanese corporate culture deciding to simply bury it and never reference the situation despite it coming out in their favor.

The hype also doesn't bode too well for it. There are plenty of other HEROes, and air neos is far from the most iconic or even playable one. There is no pressure for them to bother with it when there are so many other options to choose from that don't have any stigma attached to them

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the settlement is undisclosed currently. The last update I heard on this was that we know they settled but not the details of the settlement, which is why a lot of people are speculating the settlement probably held a "do not reprint" policy. If we have the text of the settlement somewhere, I'd like to see it.

That was my interpretation of what he said too. If Konami does reprint Air Neos they will have to pay for it. Thats why he appeared on Ruxin's channel. To offer a deal to Konami and inform people that there was no "cannot speak" papers signed. Which tells me that Konami won't be reprinting Air Neos. Its not that Konami can't talk about Air Neos. They have chosen not to talk about it. To me that just says they have no interest in reprinting the card and are looking through different avenue's for supporting the HERO archetype.

As for Neo Spacians. I mean lets be real guys. That archetype when played pure is just straight up trash and always was. The only even remotely viable build for it was Air Neos OTK which was never anything more then a gimmick back in to day and has not improved at all since. U certainly aren't going to be taking down Snake-Eyes with it, I will say that much. Like I said hold onto your Air Neos's.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Originally posted by itzRiceKrispies:

As for Neo Spacians. I mean lets be real guys. That archetype when played pure is just straight up trash and always was. the only even remotely viable build for it was Air Neos OTK which was never anything more then a gimmick back in to day and has not improved at all since. U certainly aren't going to be taking down Snake-Eyes with it I will say that much. Like I said hold onto your Air Neos's.

This is supposedly what the "trash" is capable of doing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbyfQMpsIoU

[itzRiceKrispies]

Originally posted by Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!:

Originally posted by itzRiceKrispies:

As for Neo Spacians. I mean lets be real guys. That archetype when played pure is just straight up trash and always was. the only even remotely viable build for it was Air Neos OTK which was never anything more then a gimmick back in to day and has not improved at all since. U certainly aren't going to be taking down Snake-Eyes with it I will say that much. Like I said hold onto your Air Neos's.

This is supposedly what the "trash" is capable of doing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbyfQMpsIoU

How nice that Maxx C managed to draw 0 Hand traps.....

I mean yes the new support has been 1 card banger after 1 card banger, but u know it does not consistently pull this crap off.

It does make peoples anger and hatred of Baronne and Apollousa look bad though. :)

Hey guys what do u mean u can't do anything? Broke that board and went full board THROUGH all 3 negates of Apollousa. Granted there were better choke points to negate, but I can't blame the White Forest player for a lot of them. I would burn an omni on a TT Thrust too.

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

Oh. Japanese copyright/patent. The worst copyright/patent system in the world. Yay.