is every deck now running fiendsmith and azimi cards

[HawkSage]

is there a counter to this cause every deck i go up agiasnt is running both fiend smith and azimi + a random archotype its really no fun seeing the same cards over over and over

[Raven]

So start running bystials or zombie world.

[HawkSage]

i am playing cention with the bystal package it does not seem seem to be makeing a diffrence

[Soji]

yea there's a few, Ash blossom on Requiem effect to summon from deck, DD crow or a bystial when they use Tract to discard Lurrie and it's effect special summons itself (could also use it on the engraver if they don't use Lurrie when it SS itself from the GY as well), Veiler or Imperm on Sequence to stop the fusion summon. If you're looking for hard counters I'm not sure there is one short of a floodgate like light imprisoning mirror or something like that.

Almost forgot about the Azamina cards. DD crow specifically is good for banishing their Fusion spell since they can add it back to their hand a couple times over the course of their combo, but typically if people are using it in something like snake eyes, it's mostly there to get a quick omninegate down so they can go into their snake eye plays. Ash blossom on Deception causes them to go negative since they need to tribute a monster, Imperm on their Fusion that searches feels bad because they can still just return their Fusion spell, but it's one of those things that's more about stopping them from going fully optimal combo.

[Mr.Game]

just some graveyard hate card will do.

[Raven]

Originally posted by HawkSage:

i am playing cention with the bystal package it does not seem seem to be makeing a diffrence

If its fiendsmith+azamina, imperm sylvie, ash elzette, hit engraver with bystials or estellar, don't bother trying to stop synchros.

If the third archetype is snake eyes...there really isn't a lot you can do if you don't open up with at least 3 hand traps.

Assuming you go for quasar, those are more or less your targets. The snake-eyes variant is going to be stuck with us probably until the duelist cup is finished, its by far the strongest deck this format so there isn't a big surprise about it. All you can do is main deck a lot of counters for it and that still might not be enough. Konami will have to do something after the cup because its currently too strong, but that does mean we are probably looking at a month before they do anything.

[G3]

When "Better Adventure" also has an omni-negate that's easier to play than Barrone. Everyone's going to use it. Minimum cards needed are 3x Deception, 1 Hallowed, 1 Silvia. The rest of the package is more consistency and advantage that all reach combo for the most part.

But, Fiendsmith is just too accessible. Would've been interesting to see a format w/o Closed Moon to bridge every deck to it. However, I got Knightmare Mermaid back because of it and Iblee's ban so... monkey's paw I guess.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

This is the best way to summarize Fiendsmith currently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYIf3rH4lUw

Some decks won't run it, most will. Only thing to do is to see how KONAMI will avoid hitting it until the pack is up

[Vento]

the fiendsmiths and azaminas are fine, the issue with those is that they're perfect to go into beatrice which means I'm gonna get whatever i want from my deck and speed run an apo, if you take away those 2 (and some others, i was over simplifying, like for sure kill flamberge as well) the engine is just very good for grind games and such, which is not a bad thing

[HeraldOfOpera]

It's not so much that every deck is, as that all but the most xenophobic decks can. In that respect, it's no different than Maxx "C" (which, for the record, should have been banned years ago).

[Gauche]

Retaliating "C" is being played

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by Vento:

the fiendsmiths and azaminas are fine, the issue with those is that they're perfect to go into beatrice which means I'm gonna get whatever i want from my deck and speed run an apo, if you take away those 2 (and some others, i was over simplifying, like for sure kill flamberge as well) the engine is just very good for grind games and such, which is not a bad thing

... half of the azamina ED monsters are more oppressive than apo in the first place.

[Filipino Enjoyer]

Originally posted by HawkSage:

i am playing cention with the bystal package it does not seem seem to be makeing a diffrence

becuase the game is draw the out sim and if you dont draw the out or 2-3 outs then you lose the game