Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

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Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 6:46am
Remove daily report limit
If Konami doesn't want to fish through the reports for slow players, bots and obvious cheaters, maybe they should make their game less susceptible to players who will gladly cheat to win since they don't have lives or real talent.

And before anyone tries to comment that there isn't any cheaters, see how coincidentally you will run into the same deck 10 times with players who have managed to start with the exact same opening hands or counter cards if they go 2nd.

Edit: Before anyone else wants to chime in with the same "there's no cheaters" without adding anything of value to the discussion. Why then is one of the report options "Using modding/cheats/tools"
Last edited by Sapphyre; Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:13am
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Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Where did I mention any of these decks/archetypes? I have consistently faced even Blue Eyes decks which have started with the ideal opening hands.

I like when people engage in a discussion specifically to argue against the main point made without adding any valuable information or counter-argument other than 'you're paranoid'. Don't engage if you don't like my opinion and if I need to 'lay off the tinfoil' perhaps you should lay off sniffing markers and ensure your sibling parents lay off condomless intercourse.
I never said you mentioned those decks. I mentioned them to tell you that there're decks that do the exact same thing every match. No matter who's playing them.

That was my point. No need to try and insult people online over a card game. It's pathetic. Can you not understand the point of examples?

I've seen plenty of Blue Eyes players open Nebula or Alternative as well. It'll happen. That's basic probability. If you see it over and over that's just bad luck.

What ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheater goes "I wanna cheat to make Blue Eyes always open cracked". I refuse to believe there's cheaters that choose Blue Eyes when they're cheating. No way. Nah. If they really wanna otk that badly. They'll do the Utopia Wok burn or Utopia Draglubion route. Or just Numeron.

Why would they choose Blue Eyes.
Complains about being insulted but said I was paranoid and needed to 'lay off the tinfoil' first. Make it make sense inbreed.

Get off this post if you don't agree with it, I'm allowed to have my opinions. Don't complain at someone and then expect them to not point out it seems you have as few iq points as branches in your family tree if your argument is gonna sound as stupid as you.

If you don't think there's that many cheaters that's fine, but you can't prove 100% that there isn't so don't try to come for someone if you can't handle counterpoints or being called out.
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JKArtorias Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
I never said you mentioned those decks. I mentioned them to tell you that there're decks that do the exact same thing every match. No matter who's playing them.

That was my point. No need to try and insult people online over a card game. It's pathetic. Can you not understand the point of examples?

I've seen plenty of Blue Eyes players open Nebula or Alternative as well. It'll happen. That's basic probability. If you see it over and over that's just bad luck.

What ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheater goes "I wanna cheat to make Blue Eyes always open cracked". I refuse to believe there's cheaters that choose Blue Eyes when they're cheating. No way. Nah. If they really wanna otk that badly. They'll do the Utopia Wok burn or Utopia Draglubion route. Or just Numeron.

Why would they choose Blue Eyes.
Complains about being insulted but said I was paranoid and needed to 'lay off the tinfoil' first. Make it make sense inbreed.

Get off this post if you don't agree with it, I'm allowed to have my opinions. Don't complain with someone and then expect them to not point out it seems you have as few iq points as branches in your family tree if your argument is gonna sound as stupid as you.
I said lay off the tinfoil as a comedic thing. It's why i referenced birds not being real and spy cameras in sunflowers. lol

So you only want people who agree with you to comment? That's not a discussion, that's a circle jerk. I will continue to comment. So you know there're people who disagree with you.

Back to what i was saying before you got angry about tinfoil.

Yugioh is all about consistency. This consistency comes from having searchers. If you look at something like Heroes you'll see the same plays over and over and over. No matter who is playing the deck. If the deck was common you'd think they were cheating. With your basis being: "If i see the same plays multiple matches in a row" Since all the deck is, is searchers.

People have commented on the draw engine in this game being weird in the past. Which i had a discussion with them. You can try looking for that post if you'd like. He referenced a video about Duel Links. Which was still not a perfect example of a rigged draw engine.

But maybe that'll lead you to a new point you could be making. Instead of instantly thinking the other person is a cheater.
MancakeBR Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by MancakeBR:
Why did you reply if you had nothing to add?
I'm allowed to reply to my own discussion, better question is why did you waste your time responding when it wasn't applicable to you? You'd think someone with rocks between their ears would at least have the common sense not to interact where their opinion won't matter, which for you is, I assume, everywhere
TL;DR

HOW DARE YOU REPLY TO MY THREAD!
Misuki Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:29am 
This is certainly something--
I'm doing duelist caps and I can assure you that facing 20 of the same deck with identical starting hands is not unusual.

As an experiece, I play a Dinosaur deck and oit of 7 duels today with that deck, I got Souleating Oviraptor and 1 Field Spell/Terraforming on my hand in 4 duels despite Ovi being semilimited.

This is nothing new too. If you'vefaced branded and swordsoul, you'll always see them neary have the same starting cards/combos and final board. Even ones I rarely fight lke Red-Eyes always have red-eyes fusion or/black metal dragon on their hand, and if not, they usual have ways to search it out like red-eyes insight and one for one.
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NecroNeo Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:36am 
Dude, reports are useless anyway. The developers don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about fairness, balancing or the joy of players. But enjoy Master Duel :)
Last edited by NecroNeo; Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:36am
Report is useless
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Misuki:
This is certainly something--
I'm doing duelist caps and I can assure you that facing 20 of the same deck with identical starting hands is not unusual.

As an experiece, I play a Dinosaur deck and oit of 7 duels today with that deck, I got Souleating Oviraptor and 1 Field Spell/Terraforming on my hand in 4 duels despite Ovi being semilimited.

This is nothing new too. If you'vefaced branded and swordsoul, you'll always see them neary have the same starting cards/combos and final board. Even ones I rarely fight lke Red-Eyes always have red-eyes fusion or/black metal dragon on their hand, and if not, they usual have ways to search it out like red-eyes insight and one for one.
I mean I've had multiple instances in a row of getting a 1 or 2 of the same cards in an opening hand, it certainly happens. I'm talking instances where I've seen multiple players in a row get the exact same opening hand or at least 4 out of 5/6 of the cards being consistently the same.
Unless they've programmed specific archetypes to get the same starting cards it comes off extremely suspicious.
I don't disagree with consistency but you have to draw a line somewhere in the sand and say this is coming off as more than just luck.
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Complains about being insulted but said I was paranoid and needed to 'lay off the tinfoil' first. Make it make sense inbreed.

Get off this post if you don't agree with it, I'm allowed to have my opinions. Don't complain with someone and then expect them to not point out it seems you have as few iq points as branches in your family tree if your argument is gonna sound as stupid as you.
I said lay off the tinfoil as a comedic thing. It's why i referenced birds not being real and spy cameras in sunflowers. lol

So you only want people who agree with you to comment? That's not a discussion, that's a circle jerk. I will continue to comment. So you know there're people who disagree with you.

Back to what i was saying before you got angry about tinfoil.

Yugioh is all about consistency. This consistency comes from having searchers. If you look at something like Heroes you'll see the same plays over and over and over. No matter who is playing the deck. If the deck was common you'd think they were cheating. With your basis being: "If i see the same plays multiple matches in a row" Since all the deck is, is searchers.

People have commented on the draw engine in this game being weird in the past. Which i had a discussion with them. You can try looking for that post if you'd like. He referenced a video about Duel Links. Which was still not a perfect example of a rigged draw engine.

But maybe that'll lead you to a new point you could be making. Instead of instantly thinking the other person is a cheater.
I don't disagree with many meta decks being extremely consistent because that's how they're made. But there is a huge difference between Swordsouls getting their main boss monsters out consistently and multiple players using Swordsouls getting the same near perfect opening 5 cards on their first turn, regardless of the number of copies in their deck.
Every deck has the opportunity to brick once in a while or not get the one key piece they need for their combo but for multiple players with the same deck having their opening hand to end play go exactly the same is more than just mere coincidence or luck.
If there was no cheating the only report option would be for slow play, but there is indeed the option to report players for modding/cheats etc.
I constantly edit my own decks for consistency sake in plays, but I've yet to get the same opening 5 cards with a meta deck that regularly.
Misuki Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by Misuki:
This is certainly something--
I'm doing duelist caps and I can assure you that facing 20 of the same deck with identical starting hands is not unusual.

As an experiece, I play a Dinosaur deck and oit of 7 duels today with that deck, I got Souleating Oviraptor and 1 Field Spell/Terraforming on my hand in 4 duels despite Ovi being semilimited.

This is nothing new too. If you'vefaced branded and swordsoul, you'll always see them neary have the same starting cards/combos and final board. Even ones I rarely fight lke Red-Eyes always have red-eyes fusion or/black metal dragon on their hand, and if not, they usual have ways to search it out like red-eyes insight and one for one.
I mean I've had multiple instances in a row of getting a 1 or 2 of the same cards in an opening hand, it certainly happens. I'm talking instances where I've seen multiple players in a row get the exact same opening hand or at least 4 out of 5/6 of the cards being consistently the same.
Unless they've programmed specific archetypes to get the same starting cards it comes off extremely suspicious.
I don't disagree with consistency but you have to draw a line somewhere in the sand and say this is coming off as more than just luck.
I see. I just faced so much branded, Runick and Swordsoul that honestly, the moment they drop Aluber/any wyrm, I usually know their entire hand and end board maybe except an imperm or banisment/blackout xD
If that is your case, then it might likely just be unfortunate luck for you and fortunate to the enemy. It's just really hard for me to think of it as cheating because of just how insane consistency just needs to be on this game, and if not that, being backlodes by handtraps. Maybe your opponent just runs the max copies of each card on their deck?
Last edited by Misuki; Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:56am
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by Misuki:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
I mean I've had multiple instances in a row of getting a 1 or 2 of the same cards in an opening hand, it certainly happens. I'm talking instances where I've seen multiple players in a row get the exact same opening hand or at least 4 out of 5/6 of the cards being consistently the same.
Unless they've programmed specific archetypes to get the same starting cards it comes off extremely suspicious.
I don't disagree with consistency but you have to draw a line somewhere in the sand and say this is coming off as more than just luck.
I see. I just faced so much branded, Runick and Swordsoul that honestly, the moment they drop Aluber/any wyrm, I usually know their entire hand and end board maybe except an imperm or banisment/blackout xD
If that is your case, then it might likely just be unfortunate luck for you and fortunate to the enemy. It's just raleally hard for me to think of it as cheating because of just how insane consistency just needs to be on this game, and if not that, being backlodes by handtraps.
I mean I've certainly gotten a lucky hand or later draw when I really needed it, but sometimes you're against a player and it seems like they took "believe in the heart of the cards" to the extreme
Papa Shekels Dec 15, 2022 @ 10:04am 
I've had to send out my first report yesterday in I don't know how long, specifically for slow play when a despia player was BMing with double masq and lethal on board just passing turn. If you need 3 reports a day, and that's not enough for you, I am certain beyond any doubt that you are falsely reporting people for beating you rather than for their intended purpose
MancakeBR Dec 15, 2022 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Papa Shekels:
I've had to send out my first report yesterday in I don't know how long, specifically for slow play when a despia player was BMing with double masq and lethal on board just passing turn. If you need 3 reports a day, and that's not enough for you, I am certain beyond any doubt that you are falsely reporting people for beating you rather than for their intended purpose
Unfortunately that isn't slow play. BM? Sure, but not slow play.
HeraldOfOpera Dec 15, 2022 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Papa Shekels:
I've had to send out my first report yesterday in I don't know how long, specifically for slow play when a despia player was BMing with double masq and lethal on board just passing turn. If you need 3 reports a day, and that's not enough for you, I am certain beyond any doubt that you are falsely reporting people for beating you rather than for their intended purpose
What's really unfortunate is the game mechanics that actively reward bad manners.
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:
Originally posted by Papa Shekels:
I've had to send out my first report yesterday in I don't know how long, specifically for slow play when a despia player was BMing with double masq and lethal on board just passing turn. If you need 3 reports a day, and that's not enough for you, I am certain beyond any doubt that you are falsely reporting people for beating you rather than for their intended purpose
What's really unfortunate is the game mechanics that actively reward bad manners.
I've encountered way too many players who have their board ready to attack and win (I'm talking they've wiped my board or know I don't have anything to stop them winning that turn) and rather than proceed to attack and win they will continue to set up a full combo for no reason other than to show off that they can.
aben WHY (VC Off) Dec 15, 2022 @ 11:49am 
"Get off this post if you don't agree with it, I'm allowed to have my opinions. Don't complain at someone and then expect them to not point out it seems you have as few iq points as branches in your family tree if your argument is gonna sound as stupid as you."
The hypocrisy lol.
Btw confirmation bias is a thing, look it up.
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