Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

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Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 6:46am
Remove daily report limit
If Konami doesn't want to fish through the reports for slow players, bots and obvious cheaters, maybe they should make their game less susceptible to players who will gladly cheat to win since they don't have lives or real talent.

And before anyone tries to comment that there isn't any cheaters, see how coincidentally you will run into the same deck 10 times with players who have managed to start with the exact same opening hands or counter cards if they go 2nd.

Edit: Before anyone else wants to chime in with the same "there's no cheaters" without adding anything of value to the discussion. Why then is one of the report options "Using modding/cheats/tools"
Last edited by Sapphyre; Dec 15, 2022 @ 9:13am
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MancakeBR Dec 15, 2022 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
And before anyone tries to comment that there isn't any cheaters, see how coincidentally you will run into the same deck 10 times with players who have managed to start with the exact same opening hands or counter cards if they go 2nd.
I never had that happen to me.
Neptuna Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:09am 
Prove 1 instance of cheating within the last 3 months.
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by MancakeBR:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
And before anyone tries to comment that there isn't any cheaters, see how coincidentally you will run into the same deck 10 times with players who have managed to start with the exact same opening hands or counter cards if they go 2nd.
I never had that happen to me.
Then why did you comment?
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:14am 
Originally posted by Neptuna:
Prove 1 instance of cheating within the last 3 months.
Not my job to prove people are cheating, it's Konami's job to prove it when someone gets reported for what appears to be cheating, don't comment without using brain cells first please
MancakeBR Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by MancakeBR:
I never had that happen to me.
Then why did you comment?
Why did you reply if you had nothing to add?
DeathDweller Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:37am 
Not only they need to remove that bs limit, we need live report button and a replay with both timers and cards shown but they won't, because they'd have to ban half the playerbase probably and answer for their practices as a company
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by MancakeBR:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Then why did you comment?
Why did you reply if you had nothing to add?
I'm allowed to reply to my own discussion, better question is why did you waste your time responding when it wasn't applicable to you? You'd think someone with rocks between their ears would at least have the common sense not to interact where their opinion won't matter, which for you is, I assume, everywhere
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by DeathDweller:
Not only they need to remove that bs limit, we need live report button and a replay with both timers and cards shown but they won't, because they'd have to ban half the playerbase probably and answer for their practices as a company
The live time limit showing for your opponent also makes sense, I've sat and watched full youtube videos while waiting for a player to finish their turn and there's no plausible way they didn't use up the whole timer twice over doing so.
Cinnamoon_dragon Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:06am 
There is no cheat here that allows you to draw the right cards, as far as I know, otherwise, all cheaters would play the Exodia deck.

In fact, if your 40 card deck contains 9 hand traps, the chance of opening with at least one is 74% according to one article. Chance to draw Maxx C into your starting hand is 33.8%.
So it's not that unlikely that your opponent has perfect counters.
JKArtorias Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by Neptuna:
Prove 1 instance of cheating within the last 3 months.
Not my job to prove people are cheating, it's Konami's job to prove it when someone gets reported for what appears to be cheating, don't comment without using brain cells first please
So you just report everyone then? How the ♥♥♥♥ does your mind immediately go to cheating.

Explain to me a match that made you think your opponent was cheating.
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Not my job to prove people are cheating, it's Konami's job to prove it when someone gets reported for what appears to be cheating, don't comment without using brain cells first please
So you just report everyone then? How the ♥♥♥♥ does your mind immediately go to cheating.

Explain to me a match that made you think your opponent was cheating.
3-5 duels in a row on multiple occasions where a player has had either the exact same opening hand or alternately has had the 1 copy of a card in their deck to counter my opening play(s).
I don't report every player, if I encounter the exact same plays multiple times in a row then it is more than coincidental and I'm not talking 5 people playing the same deck in a row, I'm talking 5 people playing the exact same deck while ALSO having the EXACT SAME opening hand and some of these are players who, when checking their deck after, have only had 1 copy of a key component yet everyone with that one copy have managed to started with it.
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JKArtorias Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
So you just report everyone then? How the ♥♥♥♥ does your mind immediately go to cheating.

Explain to me a match that made you think your opponent was cheating.
3-5 duels in a row on multiple occasions where a player has had either the exact same opening hand or alternately has had the 1 copy of a card in their deck to counter my opening play(s).
I don't report every player, if I encounter the exact same plays multiple times in a row then it is more than coincidental.
Live Twin has 12 cards that function the same.

Swordsoul has 9 cards that are Mo Ye.

Branded Despia has 8 cards that are Branded Fusion

Certain decks will have the exact same opener. With the players doing the exact same thing. Since it is the optimal route.

If you report based on plays based on deck. You will report nearly every Branded Despia, Swordsoul and Live Twin player.

i could name more, but those're the ones i know that do the exact same thing each match since it's optimal.

I've opened an Evenly Matched that i had as a 1 of 3 games in a row before. That's called Probability. It will happen. Being superstitious and thinking everyone is cheating when that happens. Is no different than thinking Birds aren't real and the Government puts Spy cameras in our Sunflowers.

Lay off the Tinfoil. I won't deny cheating in games. But i will assume probability and bugs before i assume cheaters and hackers.
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by Static-ghost:
There is no cheat here that allows you to draw the right cards, as far as I know, otherwise, all cheaters would play the Exodia deck.

In fact, if your 40 card deck contains 9 hand traps, the chance of opening with at least one is 74% according to one article. Chance to draw Maxx C into your starting hand is 33.8%.
So it's not that unlikely that your opponent has perfect counters.
You seem to think that people will automatically go for auto-wins through cheating. The majority of people who use cheats in games (not just using Master Duel as an example) will use subtle cheating to appear as if they're actually winning legitimately. Since the likelihood of dueling the same person multiple times is near impossible they can easily get away with this kind of subtle cheating because it isn't obvious. When you've got a good memory and eye for things that can appear suspicious it is more obvious to notice who is cheating and who just managed to pull off their proper strategy successfully.

There is a HUGE difference between being beaten legitimately and having multiple people IN A ROW start with the exact same opening hand(s) when they go first or second - ie. getting a solo key components consistently or having the one copy of a counter card.

Also unless you're a developer for Konami and their programs you cannot claim cheats/hacking is impossible. People will go to great lengths to win at video games to try and show off even if they aren't doing so legitimately, but since most people won't be able to tell, it can appear 100% viable.
Sapphyre Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
3-5 duels in a row on multiple occasions where a player has had either the exact same opening hand or alternately has had the 1 copy of a card in their deck to counter my opening play(s).
I don't report every player, if I encounter the exact same plays multiple times in a row then it is more than coincidental.
Live Twin has 12 cards that function the same.

Swordsoul has 9 cards that are Mo Ye.

Branded Despia has 8 cards that are Branded Fusion

Certain decks will have the exact same opener. With the players doing the exact same thing. Since it is the optimal route.

If you report based on plays based on deck. You will report nearly every Branded Despia, Swordsoul and Live Twin player.

i could name more, but those're the ones i know that do the exact same thing each match since it's optimal.

I've opened an Evenly Matched that i had as a 1 of 3 games in a row before. That's called Probability. It will happen. Being superstitious and thinking everyone is cheating when that happens. Is no different than thinking Birds aren't real and the Government puts Spy cameras in our Sunflowers.

Lay off the Tinfoil. I won't deny cheating in games. But i will assume probability and bugs before i assume cheaters and hackers.
Where did I mention any of these decks/archetypes? I have consistently faced even Blue Eyes decks which have started with the ideal opening hands.

I like when people engage in a discussion specifically to argue against the main point made without adding any valuable information or counter-argument other than 'you're paranoid'. Don't engage if you don't like my opinion and if I need to 'lay off the tinfoil' perhaps you should lay off sniffing markers and ensure your sibling parents lay off condomless intercourse.
JKArtorias Dec 15, 2022 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Sapphyre:
Originally posted by JKArtorias:
Live Twin has 12 cards that function the same.

Swordsoul has 9 cards that are Mo Ye.

Branded Despia has 8 cards that are Branded Fusion

Certain decks will have the exact same opener. With the players doing the exact same thing. Since it is the optimal route.

If you report based on plays based on deck. You will report nearly every Branded Despia, Swordsoul and Live Twin player.

i could name more, but those're the ones i know that do the exact same thing each match since it's optimal.

I've opened an Evenly Matched that i had as a 1 of 3 games in a row before. That's called Probability. It will happen. Being superstitious and thinking everyone is cheating when that happens. Is no different than thinking Birds aren't real and the Government puts Spy cameras in our Sunflowers.

Lay off the Tinfoil. I won't deny cheating in games. But i will assume probability and bugs before i assume cheaters and hackers.
Where did I mention any of these decks/archetypes? I have consistently faced even Blue Eyes decks which have started with the ideal opening hands.

I like when people engage in a discussion specifically to argue against the main point made without adding any valuable information or counter-argument other than 'you're paranoid'. Don't engage if you don't like my opinion and if I need to 'lay off the tinfoil' perhaps you should lay off sniffing markers and ensure your sibling parents lay off condomless intercourse.
I never said you mentioned those decks. I mentioned them to tell you that there're decks that do the exact same thing every match. No matter who's playing them.

That was my point. No need to try and insult people online over a card game. It's pathetic. Can you not understand the point of examples?

I've seen plenty of Blue Eyes players open Nebula or Alternative as well. It'll happen. That's basic probability. If you see it over and over that's just bad luck.

What ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheater goes "I wanna cheat to make Blue Eyes always open cracked". I refuse to believe there's cheaters that choose Blue Eyes when they're cheating. No way. Nah. If they really wanna otk that badly. They'll do the Utopia Wok burn or Utopia Draglubion route. Or just Numeron.

Why would they choose Blue Eyes.
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