New Wedju exodia deck feels worse to play against than Tenpai (Event talk*)

[Zabelfrie]

Seriously, a non-once per turn fusion that just has you revealing cards in your deck as materials, that has a graveyard effect. Then you get your big guy out and he can score 8K attack immediately, has a S/T negation effect and he can search out a trap card that nukes your opponent's entire field at any point during their turn?

At least with Tenpai you had a chance to set up a board to disrupt their plays if you can get past the hand traps, this is crazy. And that's all off one card that's searchable. I was kind of hopeful when I saw they banned Ash blossom for the event but they kind of had to if they wanted to advertise the new exodia deck.

[Raven]

Veiler outs it, book of eclipse outs it, ultimate slayer outs it (have to use it immediately though before they put the non-target monster out), people go full unga bunga and willingly boost into amazoness swordswoman, there is tons of ways to deal with it that were removed from the event.

With regular decks, its not that strong, definitely not on the level of tenpai. The deck has to run way too much extra to get anywhere near that level. It's strength is an illusion created by the event.

[Zabelfrie]

Originally posted by Raven:

Veiler outs it, book of eclipse outs it, ultimate slayer outs it (have to use it immediately though before they put the non-target monster out), people go full unga bunga and willingly boost into amazoness swordswoman, there is tons of ways to deal with it that were removed from the event.

With regular decks, its not that strong, definitely not on the level of tenpai. The deck has to run way too much extra to get anywhere near that level. It's strength is an illusion created by the event.

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I said I was kind of hopeful when I saw that they banned Ash and all that for the event but it was literally just so Wexodia could be uncontested. Is Ultimate slayer in MD already btw?

[Raven]

Originally posted by Zabelfrie:

Originally posted by Raven:

Veiler outs it, book of eclipse outs it, ultimate slayer outs it (have to use it immediately though before they put the non-target monster out), people go full unga bunga and willingly boost into amazoness swordswoman, there is tons of ways to deal with it that were removed from the event.

With regular decks, its not that strong, definitely not on the level of tenpai. The deck has to run way too much extra to get anywhere near that level. It's strength is an illusion created by the event.

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I said I was kind of hopeful when I saw that they banned Ash and all that for the event but it was literally just so Wexodia could be uncontested. Is Ultimate slayer in MD already btw?

Ultimate slayer has been in for a long time, but its UR and definitely not worth crafting if you're just crafting it for this event (that said, its worth having in general in my opinion)

[Zabelfrie]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Zabelfrie:

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I said I was kind of hopeful when I saw that they banned Ash and all that for the event but it was literally just so Wexodia could be uncontested. Is Ultimate slayer in MD already btw?

Ultimate slayer has been in for a long time, but its UR and definitely not worth crafting if you're just crafting it for this event (that said, its worth having in general in my opinion)

Fair, actually it would've been a decent shout when Tearlaments and Runick were big. I kind of wish ranked had some best out of 3, side decking options. Does sometimes feel like cards like Ulti Slayer and the Artifacts just don't see play on MD because they're too niche.

[Hungry Burger Gaming]

The one-card OTK deck that cant be interacted with vs. the one-trick deck that loses to a single interruption. Crazy comparison weve got going on here.

[Zabelfrie]

Originally posted by Hungry Burger Gaming:

The one-card OTK deck that cant be interacted with vs. the one-trick deck that loses to a single interruption. Crazy comparison weve got going on here.

Yeah honestly this was my fault for waiting until the topic text to say this was about the event rather than saying it in the title of the post. Fixed now, though

[Astrallight]

Puppet plant is the most cheap card to use against it. No need to spend URs against some random deck you wont see again.

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Originally posted by Zabelfrie:

Seriously, a non-once per turn fusion that just has you revealing cards in your deck as materials, that has a graveyard effect. Then you get your big guy out and he can score 8K attack immediately, has a S/T negation effect and he can search out a trap card that nukes your opponent's entire field at any point during their turn?

At least with Tenpai you had a chance to set up a board to disrupt their plays if you can get past the hand traps, this is crazy. And that's all off one card that's searchable. I was kind of hopeful when I saw they banned Ash blossom for the event but they kind of had to if they wanted to advertise the new exodia deck.

The fusion spell shuffles back any non-millenium monsters on your field and prevents you from summoning anything for the turn and the only protection the monster gets is destruction protection.

[Papa Shekels]

Idk man, I can't get behind that. Tenpai prevents you from interacting with them, period, unless you specifically have a way of dealing with sangen summoning mid-turn. And usually runs at you with a one-card OTK after nuking your board with any combination of droplet, lightning storm, raigeki, duster, etc., if you even managed to set up any board through their hand traps. And with even a decent hand, they can fully lock you out of activating any card effects in the battle phase before they even enter it while already having their monsters unaffected in the main phase.

Millennium's best end board is a conditional trap card, a somewhat protected s/t negate, and a conditional summon disruption. A single effect veiler kills their end board, even in the event. Ultimate slayer solos it as well, especially since you can send skull wagon to pop their remaining backrow. It's a decent deck for sure, but extremely fragile, and it produces a board that is not unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination. Even by the standards of the event, it's not the best deck in the room, just the most popular one because it's the most competent loaner

[Croustifiak]

The deck is aweful to face for its dedicated event, otherwise it's fine in today's meta.

Everything revolve around their big guy, if you remove it you don't have a lots of danger to face.

[Just Life]

Ninjas deck outs it. Meizen and Jioh deals with the Exoida fusion.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

As a new player whose only deck was destroyed by the banlist for the event, it's basically just a "wait for the opponent to autowin" game

[seki108]

The other two loaner decks were GX burn and 5 minute Link solitaire combo burn, so no real options with it for new or returning players if you didn't play certain decks.

[Soji]

I feel like during the event, if you don't put cards in your deck specifically to counter it, it can definitely run you over. A lot of the traditional counters most people use in decks are banned but that doesn't mean there's absolutely no outs. Santa Clawz, Book of Moon, Effect Veiler so they can't set a trap, Enemy Controller can either steal it or switch it to defense. You just have to know when to use these cards because the fusion does have a S/T negate. It's so common I didn't see a point in making a deck not heavily dedicated to countering it and doing so makes it pretty easy.

That said, don't agree it's worse than Tenpai. That deck is just a huge design mistake in every sense of the phrase. People love to meme about how uninteractive yugioh is with 1 card combos everywhere, but that decks entire gameplan is being an uninteractable OTK strategy that attacks you for 30k damage with 1 card. It's everything that people say they hate about yugioh in a 12 card engine with 28 handtraps. The only thing it doesn't that people don't complain about is it manages to do all that in like 8 summons.

[Keynomaru]

This deck isnt that good. In real life it had 3 shifter and village as unfair cards to maybe get a top sometimes but those are striped away in master duel. Sure you might get cheesed by it sometimes but remember you are that guys 1 win after 6 losses.