Lame state of the game

[Nolan]

cant compete unless you're using the same deck as everyone else. Need to spent $1000 + USD to even maybe have enough UR dust to make these cards. All to be able to compete at some level. same 1 or 2 decks, same combos, no fun in these decks, no love for the game just straight up copy and paste and the only ppl who are going to get mad at this are the same people who already wasted their income for the last 5 months to run these decks.

[Raven]

I say this as a whale...if you're spending 1000 dollars to get the dust to make a deck, you're horribly mismanaging your resources. The free gems alone and dual pass should contribute well towards even a new deck as long as you have your staples in place

[Nolan]

Originally posted by Raven:

I say this as a whale...if you're spending 1000 dollars to get the dust to make a deck, you're horribly mismanaging your resources. The free gems alone and dual pass should contribute well towards even a new deck as long as you have your staples in place

dawg it if you dont have a card you have to dust 3 UR to get on UR. these decks take 38-39 UR. you can expect 2 MAYBE 3 UR from a 10 pack purchase even with free gems

[Raven]

Originally posted by Nolan:

dawg it if you dont have a card you have to dust 3 UR to get on UR. these decks take 38-39 UR. you can expect 2 MAYBE 3 UR from a 10 pack purchase even with free gems

But you get like 3000+ gems per month and the pass pays for itself, and enough dust for any 3 URs. I am not trying to say that it isn't stacked against you or that konami isn't greedy, but you're exaggerating too much. Outside of alt arts, I've never had to spend more than 150 dollars to complete a deck from a new pack. Its really horrible management if you are spending that much and burning your resources

edit: 38 URs is exaggerated when about 14 of them are cards you use in every deck

[Nolan]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Nolan:

dawg it if you dont have a card you have to dust 3 UR to get on UR. these decks take 38-39 UR. you can expect 2 MAYBE 3 UR from a 10 pack purchase even with free gems

But you get like 3000+ gems per month and the pass pays for itself, and enough dust for any 3 URs. I am not trying to say that it isn't stacked against you or that konami isn't greedy, but you're exaggerating too much. Outside of alt arts, I've never had to spend more than 150 dollars to complete a deck from a new pack. Its really horrible management if you are spending that much and burning your resources

edit: 38 URs is exaggerated when about 14 of them are cards you use in every deck

gold rank player alert

[Raven]

Originally posted by Nolan:

Originally posted by Raven:

But you get like 3000+ gems per month and the pass pays for itself, and enough dust for any 3 URs. I am not trying to say that it isn't stacked against you or that konami isn't greedy, but you're exaggerating too much. Outside of alt arts, I've never had to spend more than 150 dollars to complete a deck from a new pack. Its really horrible management if you are spending that much and burning your resources

edit: 38 URs is exaggerated when about 14 of them are cards you use in every deck

gold rank player alert

And how it that relevant? You can't fix your errornous statement so you want to attack me personally? I don't care about ranking up usually, but its not like I can't hit diamond if I focus. Its kinda anti-your argument to sit there and complain that you need to spend money to win, and turn around and shame me for being gold, when I know how much you need to spend because I am a whale <_<

edit: thanks for the free points I guess

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by Raven:

But you get like 3000+ gems per month and the pass pays for itself, and enough dust for any 3 URs. I am not trying to say that it isn't stacked against you or that konami isn't greedy, but you're exaggerating too much. Outside of alt arts, I've never had to spend more than 150 dollars to complete a deck from a new pack. Its really horrible management if you are spending that much and burning your resources

edit: 38 URs is exaggerated when about 14 of them are cards you use in every deck

It's technically true if you squint really hard and then also sandblast your eyes away. If we take a boring old standard snake-eye fiendsmith deck, you have 44 URs. Specifically broken down by the deck:
16 URs for snake-eye
7 URs for fiendsmith
21 URs for staples, 11 of which are just the maxx "C" tax

So sure, you get 44 URs if you are literally on a brand new account that has never played the game or built a deck before. In which case, you have enough new player gems/dust to afford that, so the point is irrelevant. It goes down to 23 if you are talking about combining two decks together when starting from scratch, and even lower if you're not trying to build a pile deck. These days it's really hard to tell who's jester farming and who's just inventing whatever sounds like convenient justification for their daily rant

[Raven]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

It's technically true if you squint really hard and then also sandblast your eyes away. If we take a boring old standard snake-eye fiendsmith deck, you have 44 URs. Specifically broken down by the deck:
16 URs for snake-eye
7 URs for fiendsmith
21 URs for staples, 11 of which are just the maxx "C" tax

So sure, you get 44 URs if you are literally on a brand new account that has never played the game or built a deck before. In which case, you have enough new player gems/dust to afford that, so the point is irrelevant. It goes down to 23 if you are talking about combining two decks together when starting from scratch, and even lower if you're not trying to build a pile deck. These days it's really hard to tell who's jester farming and who's just inventing whatever sounds like convenient justification for their daily rant

That's seriously besides the point papa. I couldn't care less at the actual UR number, because I can say quite clearly I got full play set of both Azamina and fiendsmith for like ~175 dollars. If people mismanage their resources though, that's on you.

[Soji]

need a daily rant mega thread tbh.

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by Raven:

That's seriously besides the point papa. I couldn't care less at the actual UR number, because I can say quite clearly I got full play set of both Azamina and fiendsmith for like ~175 dollars. If people mismanage their resources though, that's on you.

(What I'm saying supports your argument)

[Raven]

Originally posted by Soji:

need a daily rant mega thread tbh.

I'm going to bow out, I don't know what's making people go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on me lately, but I'm pretty tired of it.

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

Originally posted by Raven:

That's seriously besides the point papa. I couldn't care less at the actual UR number, because I can say quite clearly I got full play set of both Azamina and fiendsmith for like ~175 dollars. If people mismanage their resources though, that's on you.

(What I'm saying supports your argument)

Did I misread you? I skimmed to fast, if so, I apologize
edit 2: yeah, I did read it too fast, I'm sorry. I am a little annoyed because its been people snapping at me for the dumbest things lately.

[Soji]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Soji:

need a daily rant mega thread tbh.

I'm going to bow out, I don't know what's making people go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on me lately, but I'm pretty tired of it. Even papa is on my case for whatever reason. No matter how I help or try to keep things fun, this community is still among the worse.

wasn't referring to you fwiw but I don't blame you.

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Nolan:

cant compete unless you're using the same deck as everyone else. Need to spent $1000 + USD to even maybe have enough UR dust to make these cards. All to be able to compete at some level. same 1 or 2 decks, same combos, no fun in these decks, no love for the game just straight up copy and paste and the only ppl who are going to get mad at this are the same people who already wasted their income for the last 5 months to run these decks.

Yep, and you were right about them getting mad lol.

Unfortunately the game doesn't seem like it's gonna get any better, so long as Komoney is making bank off of these people.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Yep, and you were right about them getting mad lol.

Unfortunately the game doesn't seem like it's gonna get any better, so long as Komoney is making bank off of these people.

He starts attacking and provoking people directly and you think "lol you were right about them being mad"? Okay, I'm seriously done now. This is beyond stupid.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

I think you might be confusing this with the physical card game OP. Go to Reddit for that.

Or just play the handful of free simulators that give you access to all the cards for free so you can still complain one way or another.

I bring this up again https://www.konami.com/games/eu/en/topics/17851/

So if this game in it's sorry state is still pulling world record numbers then I hate to see the state of the other tcgs going on today.

Also shout out to OP for calling people mad when they came onto a public forum to vent and complain about how other people play a video game, that's really strong.

[Soji]

Originally posted by ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Also shout out to OP for calling people mad when they came onto a public forum to vent and complain about how other people play a video game, that's really strong.

this part specifically is something that always gets a laugh out of me too. The fact that there are regulars who do this very thing here all the time makes it even more hilarious.