What is wrong with the coin toss

[Grimangel]

Please explain this to me - going second every single game in 34 games in a row, never going first, dropped from 19 back to 17. Actually rigged...

[Grimangel]

Correction 35 games now

[Papa Smurf]

In events people alt/f4 if they flip tails, so they only stick around if they win the coin toss, which makes people who play fairly lose out. That's why you keep seeing tails.

Solution - Play Numeron OTK

[R Valeman 37]

Originally posted by Papa Smurf:

In events people alt/f4 if they flip tails, so they only stick around if they win the coin toss, which makes people who play fairly lose out. That's why you keep seeing tails.

Solution - Play Numeron OTK

They should give the person auto win if the other players repeatedly pulling the plug (which slow play and abusive since it cause the player to wait long before getting kicked) and restrict that person for dueling in ranked for few minutes..

Its becoming a common thing
They need rework the first turn coin flip ensure its really 50% on each side on going Heads not 75%.

This abuse also represents these specific group of long combo users cheating and slow play to gain rewards unfairly
This issue should enter in the survey

[Grimangel]

Originally posted by Valeman 37:

Originally posted by Papa Smurf:

In events people alt/f4 if they flip tails, so they only stick around if they win the coin toss, which makes people who play fairly lose out. That's why you keep seeing tails.

Solution - Play Numeron OTK

They should give the person auto win if the other players repeatedly pulling the plug (which slow play and abusive since it cause the player to wait long before getting kicked) and restrict that person for dueling in ranked for few minutes..

Its becoming a common thing
They need rework the first turn coin flip ensure its really 50% on each side on going Heads not 75%.

This abuse also represents these specific group of long combo users cheating and slow play to gain rewards unfairly
This issue should enter in the survey

If they fix the ban list (this is what I put everywhere on the survey), this could be bearable, but in a BO1 format with no-existing ban list, it is a waste of time, especially with some of the meta decks that can play through 3 hand traps. The issue is the fact that there are so many broken cards/combos that in BO3 you can deal with somehow with a side deck, but in BO1 they are on a rampage.

Floo is the most used deck in the event, every second game is vs a Floo deck because you need specific counters to stop them, unless they brick heavily.

[Unforgiven]

Originally posted by Papa Smurf:

In events people alt/f4 if they flip tails, so they only stick around if they win the coin toss, which makes people who play fairly lose out. That's why you keep seeing tails.

Solution - Play Numeron OTK

Even then he should win coin tosses, I call Bs on this 35 games in a row 2nd post, usually it's just some guy who's salty about losing and trying to blame it on the game "omg so rigged I go 2nd everytime" when in reality it was totally even looking at the past 100 games

[Mistic-Gohan]

In this game both coin toss just like draw system are rigged (broken) from the start...

Imagine that I, and thats no joke, for some unknown reason have... >90% coin toss winrate all the time... So basically every f****g time I need to decide if I want to go 1st or 2nd :P

[R Valeman 37]

Originally posted by Grimangel:

Originally posted by Valeman 37:

They should give the person auto win if the other players repeatedly pulling the plug (which slow play and abusive since it cause the player to wait long before getting kicked) and restrict that person for dueling in ranked for few minutes..

Its becoming a common thing
They need rework the first turn coin flip ensure its really 50% on each side on going Heads not 75%.

This abuse also represents these specific group of long combo users cheating and slow play to gain rewards unfairly
This issue should enter in the survey

If they fix the ban list (this is what I put everywhere on the survey), this could be bearable, but in a BO1 format with no-existing ban list, it is a waste of time, especially with some of the meta decks that can play through 3 hand traps. The issue is the fact that there are so many broken cards/combos that in BO3 you can deal with somehow with a side deck, but in BO1 they are on a rampage.

Floo is the most used deck in the event, every second game is vs a Floo deck because you need specific counters to stop them, unless they brick heavily.

We not talking what in the match - We talking first turn coin flip at the start of duel. It becoming abusvive form these players...they cheat to get rewards for playing slow and now they manipulating coin flips

[Merilirem]

What you really want to know about is RNG, probability and coin tosses. The short of it is that this is expected for a few people. If you flip a coin enough you will end up with streaks that seem to defy logic but in reality its just evening out the rest of the numbers.

[wildnike]

The probability you will go first or second is eternally 50%. Independent variables and all that.

The probability of a random participant having 32 games going 2nd in a row is 000.000000023283064%, or... twenty-three million two hundred eighty-three thousand sixty-four quadrillionths of a percent. While not impossible, it makes you very unlucky.

My suggestion would be to harness this power into a deck built on going second, or perhaps to head to your local casino. Whichever you are more likely to do second.

[[TW]Chawolme]

This game is all about luck right now BO1 makes this game ONLY luck is most important

[Grimangel]

Originally posted by wildnike:

The probability you will go first or second is eternally 50%. Independent variables and all that.

The probability of a random participant having 32 games going 2nd in a row is 000.000000023283064%, or... twenty-three million two hundred eighty-three thousand sixty-four quadrillionths of a percent. While not impossible, it makes you very unlucky.

My suggestion would be to harness this power into a deck built on going second, or perhaps to head to your local casino. Whichever you are more likely to do second.

It happens in lv19 all the time, was on discord sharing the screen today and once again didn't get to go first at all in 7 games, the master duel discord was also commenting that it is unreal. There must be a way to cheat with the coin toss, otherwise it makes no logic, back to lv18 again.

[Lasagna]

the longest coin toss loss i got was 17 losses.

real RNG can be streaky AF, if modern yugioh wasn't such a "instant loss going second unless you drew X amount of handtraps and a board breaker + a 1 card full combo starter" game it wouldn't matter as much.

a suggestion I've seen is for the going 2nd player to be allowed to start with 6 cards in hand (giving up their first draw phase), retaining their relative combo potential turn2 but having that 1 extra card turn1 to potentially have an extra handtrap (because current meta decks need at least 2 handtraps to hurt, in the future things like branded tearalments will be able to combo even through a full hand of handtraps, which is just insane).

[DeathDweller]

Cheaters can see through cards, can have bots autoplay and play faster than the game allows a real person to activate cards, can spam the timer, can stall the draw phase etc., so i wouldn't rule out a coin flip cheat.

People talking about luck forget that we are talking about programming code here.

Until Konami makes coin flip into rock paper scissors, live report buttons, showing opponent's timer, replay with both fields and hands visible and an editor with free card placement, i'm not putting any of this on "luck".

[Cinnamoon_dragon]

Originally posted by βumble:

the longest coin toss loss i got was 17 losses.

Omg I think I would have stopped playing after 6-8, the game just hints you to take a break

[Unforgiven]

Originally posted by DeathDweller:

Cheaters can see through cards, can have bots autoplay and play faster than the game allows a real person to activate cards, can spam the timer, can stall the draw phase etc., so i wouldn't rule out a coin flip cheat.

People talking about luck forget that we are talking about programming code here.

Until Konami makes coin flip into rock paper scissors, live report buttons, showing opponent's timer, replay with both fields and hands visible and an editor with free card placement, i'm not putting any of this on "luck".

They literally can't do half of what you listed anymore in ranked because konami changed that stuff from being client side to server side when playing online. So no, they can't cheat the coin toss, only thing they can do is alt f4 if they lose the coin toss, which has no effect on the outcome because it happens after the toss.
Me and my friends still haven't seen any kind of 10+ coin toss loss streaks that 2 ppl here are talking about, which is exactly why i think its bs lmao.