Can Stardust actually defeat Timelords

[CaLL Me sHiSHoU]

I mean, Yusei defeated Timelords with Stardust, so im wondering if i can do the same IRL and in Master Duel against the Timelord decks today

[Just end trashbag.]

pure build it cannot lol. try solo.

[Aldain]

You'd need a means of negating the effects of Timelords, if you do that you can run them over pretty easily.

So cards like Imperm, Breakthrough Skill or even a well timed Skill Drain after hitting the board with a big dumb beatstick can knock them out.

Breakthrough Skill in particular is a good countermeasure because it works twice, once on the field on either turn and once in the GY on your turn.

Oh and Lost Wind which can halve the attack of the big 4k one and re-set itself to the field from the GY.

[CaLL Me sHiSHoU]

Originally posted by Aldain:

You'd need a means of negating the effects of Timelords, if you do that you can run them over pretty easily.

So cards like Imperm, Breakthrough Skill or even a well timed Skill Drain after hitting the board with a big dumb beatstick can knock them out.

Breakthrough Skill in particular is a good countermeasure because it works twice, once on the field on either turn and once in the GY on your turn.

Oh and Lost Wind which can halve the attack of the big 4k one and re-set itself to the field from the GY.

Other than breakthrough skills which i need some explainations for, im assuming a crystal wing and a quasar can actually do something against the timelords?

Even with an annoying backrow, iirc i can also put a dawn dragster on the field for backrow negations

[Aldain]

Originally posted by CaLL Me ShiSHou:

Other than breakthrough skills which i need some explainations for, im assuming a crystal wing and a quasar can actually do something against the timelords?

Even with an annoying backrow, iirc i can also put a dawn dragster on the field for backrow negations

You can negate the activations of their post battle effects, but they're still destruction immune and take no battle damage via cards like Crystal Wing and Quasar.

You need to give them a full effect negation or they'll just not go away via anything but the enemy standby phase.

The only other options would be banishing them since they're not banish immune.

You'd also need a way to deal with Infinite Light if that hits the field, which similar to the Timelords needs a full negation since it is destruction proof and prevents targeting Timelords with other card effects.

[CaLL Me sHiSHoU]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by CaLL Me ShiSHou:

Other than breakthrough skills which i need some explainations for, im assuming a crystal wing and a quasar can actually do something against the timelords?

Even with an annoying backrow, iirc i can also put a dawn dragster on the field for backrow negations

You can negate the activations of their post battle effects, but they're still destruction immune and take no battle damage via cards like Crystal Wing and Quasar.

You need to give them a full effect negation or they'll just not go away via anything but the enemy standby phase.

The only other options would be banishing them since they're not banish immune.

You'd also need a way to deal with Infinite Light if that hits the field, which similar to the Timelords needs a full negation since it is destruction proof and prevents targeting Timelords with other card effects.

Wait...so...DRNM and Droplet, actually works?

[Aldain]

Originally posted by CaLL Me ShiSHou:

Originally posted by Aldain:

You can negate the activations of their post battle effects, but they're still destruction immune and take no battle damage via cards like Crystal Wing and Quasar.

You need to give them a full effect negation or they'll just not go away via anything but the enemy standby phase.

The only other options would be banishing them since they're not banish immune.

You'd also need a way to deal with Infinite Light if that hits the field, which similar to the Timelords needs a full negation since it is destruction proof and prevents targeting Timelords with other card effects.

Wait...so...DRNM and Droplet, actually works?

Yeah, though Droplet would need discards and DRNM prevents your foe from taking damage similar to how Timelords do.

But both would work if you can fit them, DRNM even would go through Infinite Light since it doesn't target.

Timelords are an archetype that basically implode at the sight of anything like Skill Drain, if their field effects are negated they are mostly just fancy Ojamas at that point.

[War Crime Bubba]

Just wanted to quickly throw this in, but they also aren’t immune to being banished, bounced back to the hand, sent directly to the graveyard, or even being flipped facedown. So cards like Zeus, Compulse Eject, and even Book of Moon + any sort of destruction effect will make due of them (so long as they aren’t flipped back up).

Originally posted by Aldain:

Oh and Lost Wind which can halve the attack of the big 4k one and re-set itself to the field from the GY.

So yes and no to this. Sandiaon will rarely get special summoned since Time Maiden can’t target him for special summons. Of the top of my head, there are only two situations where Sandaion will be special summoned, either through Infinite Machine/Light, which if you keep pressure on there backrow you’ll be fine. Or Celestial Transformation which is a bit counter intuitive cause of the attack cut.

But for the other Timelords, it’ll work just fine. Heck, you can even use it in Time Maiden since she mostly gets special summoned.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by CaLL Me ShiSHou:

Wait...so...DRNM and Droplet, actually works?

Yeah, though Droplet would need discards and DRNM prevents your foe from taking damage similar to how Timelords do.

But both would work if you can fit them, DRNM even would go through Infinite Light since it doesn't target.

Timelords are an archetype that basically implode at the sight of anything like Skill Drain, if their field effects are negated they are mostly just fancy Ojamas at that point.

Droplet doesn't target either.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Aldain:

Yeah, though Droplet would need discards and DRNM prevents your foe from taking damage similar to how Timelords do.

But both would work if you can fit them, DRNM even would go through Infinite Light since it doesn't target.

Timelords are an archetype that basically implode at the sight of anything like Skill Drain, if their field effects are negated they are mostly just fancy Ojamas at that point.

Droplet doesn't target either.

Oh right, it says choose not target...man do I hate YGO rulings sometimes.

[Energon Vlada]

No because any Stardust or Star boss monster negates effect activation of a Timelord, not all of their effects, so Timelords are immune to destruction effect of Starudst and Star monsters.
If you want to beat Timelords, add Trishula to your deck so you can banish current Timelord on the field, make a strong board and finish the opponent on that turn.

[FlintX]

Skill Drain.

[CaLL Me sHiSHoU]

Originally posted by Vlada Cut:

No because any Stardust or Star boss monster negates effect activation of a Timelord, not all of their effects, so Timelords are immune to destruction effect of Starudst and Star monsters.
If you want to beat Timelords, add Trishula to your deck so you can banish current Timelord on the field, make a strong board and finish the opponent on that turn.

i think shooting majestic star dragon can negate timelords, cant they?

[Aldain]

Originally posted by CaLL Me ShiSHou:

Originally posted by Vlada Cut:

No because any Stardust or Star boss monster negates effect activation of a Timelord, not all of their effects, so Timelords are immune to destruction effect of Starudst and Star monsters.
If you want to beat Timelords, add Trishula to your deck so you can banish current Timelord on the field, make a strong board and finish the opponent on that turn.

i think shooting majestic star dragon can negate timelords, cant they?

Yeah Shooting Majestic should work too since it negates on the field.

Hell regular Majestic can negate their effects on board too if one was that desperate.

The only problem is Infinite Light, but that's solved by one Cosmic Cyclone.

[Energon Vlada]

Originally posted by CaLL Me ShiSHou:

Originally posted by Vlada Cut:

No because any Stardust or Star boss monster negates effect activation of a Timelord, not all of their effects, so Timelords are immune to destruction effect of Starudst and Star monsters.
If you want to beat Timelords, add Trishula to your deck so you can banish current Timelord on the field, make a strong board and finish the opponent on that turn.

i think shooting majestic star dragon can negate timelords, cant they?

it can because it banishes Timelord.

[ChaosBahamut]

Solemn Judgement and/or Warning can work. Cost may be on the steep side, but the ability to negate the summon of a Timelord outright can provide an opening. (and you don't have to worry about their immunity to destruction, as by negating a summon the monster in question technically didn't hit the field and thus its effect had no chance to be applied)

Some of the alt Mirror Force traps can help as well, due to dealing with opposing monsters in a manner that doesn't destroy. (Storming Mirror Force bounces them back to their owners' hands, Quaking Mirror Force forces them into face down defense mode; with the inabililty to manually switch back to attack mode, thus making them vulnerable to any card effect you can throw at them)