Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

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R for Reload Jan 14, 2023 @ 4:03pm
Called by the grave shouldnt be semi limited, Ash Blossom should be.
I feel its weird that they semi limit the anti hand trap card instead of semi limit a hand trap.
I understand called by the grave is more powerful but thats another reason why I don't think it should be limited, Specially with all the graveyard effects every deck has now.
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G3 Jan 14, 2023 @ 4:49pm 
OCG tried this already. Ash was semi-limited from 2017 to April 2020. Maxx C' became even more of a menace during that time.
Last edited by G3; Jan 14, 2023 @ 4:51pm
Misuki Jan 14, 2023 @ 4:58pm 
Ash being limited will make Maxx-C a bazillion times powerful.
If they want to hit ash, they have to consider the existance of Maxx-C which isn't limited in anyway in the banlist.

Also, a lot of deck searches so having 3 ash would ensure you have at least a way to disrupt your opponent, pretty much the same reason you can say called by shouldn't be limited (because meta, and even rogue, decks uses the deck so much as much as there are strong graveyarf effects.)
Papa Shekels Jan 14, 2023 @ 5:08pm 
Maxx C is the single most problematic card in master duel right now, they can't afford to hit anything that slows it down. If they banned it, they could definitely experiment with hitting other hand trap or anti-hand trap cards, although I don't know how beneficial any of that would be
Lazer Jan 14, 2023 @ 5:34pm 
With all the pot cards being hit in MD Ash is getting more and more OP, should go to 2
Last edited by Lazer; Jan 14, 2023 @ 5:34pm
TormentedSalad Jan 14, 2023 @ 5:41pm 
and its so very enjoyable when you can just play over the ash and save that called by as an extra disruption for a combo endboard as long as maxx C goes first i wouldnt lose sleep over called by being completely banned ash trades for a single effect and a common type of effect at that
camus Jan 14, 2023 @ 6:58pm 
Just limiting Called by, Ash, and Maxx then calling it a day would probably fix a lot of problems. Maybe cut down some of the infamous Ash targets too like Branded Fusion just to be safe.
HeraldOfOpera Jan 14, 2023 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by camus:
Just limiting Called by, Ash, and Maxx then calling it a day would probably fix a lot of problems. Maybe cut down some of the infamous Ash targets too like Branded Fusion just to be safe.
Nope, would just make it all sackier.
Aldain Jan 14, 2023 @ 7:13pm 
Kill Maxx and watch Ash drop down to "reliable but meta dependent tech card" overnight.
Last edited by Aldain; Jan 14, 2023 @ 7:13pm
TormentedSalad Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by camus:
Just limiting Called by, Ash, and Maxx then calling it a day would probably fix a lot of problems. Maybe cut down some of the infamous Ash targets too like Branded Fusion just to be safe.
just ban called and maxx leave ash as she is she trades 1 for 1 with a search what feels worse is losing to called by after playing through an established board because you didnt draw any hand traps she will naturally lose value if the insect is banned probably still be worth running at least as long as we are dealing with branded and runick
Filipino Enjoyer Jan 14, 2023 @ 11:46pm 
besides the fact that called by is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ card itself, limiting ash just makes the maxx c mini game even more ♥♥♥♥
Ghost X Jan 15, 2023 @ 12:09am 
* Maxx c enter the chat *
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skill issue Jan 15, 2023 @ 3:19am 
called by and designator are card that shouldn't be printed in general.
Papa Smurf Jan 15, 2023 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by spain with no s:
called by and designator are card that shouldn't be printed in general.

Eh, Designator is only good because everyone is running Maxx C and Ash, without it the card would be useless (see TCG).

Called By is needed because Maxx C exists, but again without it it would be too good so should be limited to 1.
Papa Shekels Jan 15, 2023 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by spain with no s:
called by and designator are card that shouldn't be printed in general.
Crossout designator is kind of a win more card in most decks. Something like live twins that can run 20 hand traps benefits from having crossout designator to also stop anything used against them if they have it but didn't happen to draw it. Aside from that, as others said, just another maxx "C" counter. The issue is that if you have the space to run it, you're already running plenty of hand traps anyway
Originally posted by Papa Shekels:
Originally posted by spain with no s:
called by and designator are card that shouldn't be printed in general.
Crossout designator is kind of a win more card in most decks. Something like live twins that can run 20 hand traps benefits from having crossout designator to also stop anything used against them if they have it but didn't happen to draw it. Aside from that, as others said, just another maxx "C" counter. The issue is that if you have the space to run it, you're already running plenty of hand traps anyway

Countering Maxx "C", and by extension Ash Blossom, is the main reason why it got him in the OCG and MD, while in the TCG, as you said, it's mainly mid range decks like Marincess or Evil Twins, who can run almost every good hand trap in the game at the same time, that do run it, because it's extra insurance.

Some meta decks that have room might run it as a mirror match pick, since they expect a bunch of mirror matches, but yea, in the TCG, it's really overrated at times, especially on release.
Last edited by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫; Jan 15, 2023 @ 6:23am
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