What's the point anymore?

[ApocRNG]

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[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

You think Benten killed Drytron.

No one is remotely implying that. But changing card balance definitely shuffled it's place in the meta.

Originally posted by Sheepman Dueling:

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Tri-Brigade is still played, I'm running into it even more recently than before.

Okay, at least drytons basically got killed. There's still Tri-Brigade players but it's no where as bad as it used to be. Tri-brigade players make up like the entire popular of the people who used to play rogue now lmao

maybe that's anecdotal.

Bruh

[Sheepman]

Originally posted by Aldain:

I mean there's truth in the "worse and worse with each format" thing.

Look at Splights, they're literally, not metaphorically or exaggeratedly, EATING the OCG meta at the moment.

What's the most recent percentage? IIRC it's around 62% of all decks played.

It's not a surprise and not a secret that new decks are strong to support sales, espesically in a game without set rotation. In games with set rotation, which is basically everything else that isn't Yugioh, it's not just the norm, but the only way you can play.

There's been plenty of different metas, some more fun to play in and some worse, but that doesn't mean they "got worse each time". That's just a mentality of someone who hates change.

[sneed master]

Just open DRNM or Droplet in your starting hand bro : ^)

[Sheepman]

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

Originally posted by Sheepman:

No one is remotely implying that. But changing card balance definitely shuffled it's place in the meta.

Originally posted by Sheepman Dueling:

Okay, at least drytons basically got killed. There's still Tri-Brigade players but it's no where as bad as it used to be. Tri-brigade players make up like the entire popular of the people who used to play rogue now lmao

maybe that's anecdotal.

Bruh

Does flowery wording confuse you? Killed as in represented lower in the meta, which is what this whole conversation is about. Lack of Droll, blah blah. Etc.

I swear you guys look for "gottem"s so hard sometimes it barely makes sense.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by Aldain:

I mean there's truth in the "worse and worse with each format" thing.

Look at Splights, they're literally, not metaphorically or exaggeratedly, EATING the OCG meta at the moment.

What's the most recent percentage? IIRC it's around 62% of all decks played.

It's not a surprise and not a secret that new decks are strong to support sales, espesically in a game without set rotation. In games with set rotation, which is basically everything else that isn't Yugioh, it's not just the norm, but the only way you can play.

There's been plenty of different metas, some more fun to play in and some worse, but that doesn't mean they "got worse each time". That's just a mentality of someone who hates change.

So your arguement to how awful the past few and future formats are is just "you just hate change bro".

Like bruh... Really?

[Sheepman]

Like people are already forgetting this thread is about Swordswords and are willing to piggy-back off anyone else making a complaint, even if it's not consistent with their own. Pivoting the conversation into like 40 different directions.

Why are you like this

[Sheepman]

Originally posted by 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

Originally posted by Sheepman:

It's not a surprise and not a secret that new decks are strong to support sales, espesically in a game without set rotation. In games with set rotation, which is basically everything else that isn't Yugioh, it's not just the norm, but the only way you can play.

There's been plenty of different metas, some more fun to play in and some worse, but that doesn't mean they "got worse each time". That's just a mentality of someone who hates change.

So your arguement to how awful the past few and future formats are is just "you just hate change bro".

Like bruh... Really?

Aldain's (and I literally mean this. find ANY post with a complaint and he'll be there. literally obsessive compulsive-tier to the point where I refuse he even plays this game. look at the absolute insanity that is his post history) the kind of dude who's complained in literally every thread about this game since release. He's the kind of person who actually means "worse and worse" from inception, not just these specific formats. Like could you even name what the last ocg format looked like without looking it up right now? And you know the answer is no.

You all want to defend each other so bad that you barely even know what the other person is arguing.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by Aldain:

I mean there's truth in the "worse and worse with each format" thing.

Look at Splights, they're literally, not metaphorically or exaggeratedly, EATING the OCG meta at the moment.

What's the most recent percentage? IIRC it's around 62% of all decks played.

It's not a surprise and not a secret that new decks are strong to support sales, espesically in a game without set rotation.

Yeah, no, when a deck starts hitting those percentages Konami has made a Dragon Ruler/Zoodiac level error.

The next highest usage rate from last year was Phantom Knights at around 30% at the highest. Numbers like that haven't been around since the days of full power Zoodiacs back around 2017.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

Bruh

Does flowery wording confuse you? Killed as in represented lower in the meta, which is what this whole conversation is about. Lack of Droll, blah blah. Etc.

I swear you guys look for "gottem"s so hard sometimes it barely makes sense.

Dawg it's not even lowered at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all. You see it less cause new cards released and the same omni negate players see a deck with high consistency to set up 3 omni negates turn 1.

As long as Eva is in the game it's still the strongest turn 1 omni negate there is.

Swordsoul has high limitations due to restricting to Synchro. Drytron can set up a 4 material Zeus when there Herald plays fail without dedicating anything but 2 extra deck slots.

That's the reason the decks broken, Eva for omni negate and Zeus for games you get countered on.

[Sheepman]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by Sheepman:

It's not a surprise and not a secret that new decks are strong to support sales, espesically in a game without set rotation.

Yeah, no, when a deck starts hitting those percentages Konami has made a Dragon Ruler/Zoodiac level error.

The next highest usage rate from last year was Phantom Knights at around 30% at the highest. Numbers like that haven't been around since the days of full power Zoodiacs back around 2017.

Dude thinks 62% is tier 0.

[Sheepman]

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Does flowery wording confuse you? Killed as in represented lower in the meta, which is what this whole conversation is about. Lack of Droll, blah blah. Etc.

I swear you guys look for "gottem"s so hard sometimes it barely makes sense.

Dawg it's not even lowered at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all. You see it less cause new cards released and the same omni negate players see a deck with high consistency to set up 3 omni negates turn 1.

As long as Eva is in the game it's still the strongest turn 1 omni negate there is.

Swordsoul has high limitations due to restricting to Synchro. Drytron can set up a 4 material Zeus when there Herald plays fail without dedicating anything but 2 extra deck slots.

That's the reason the decks broken, Eva for omni negate and Zeus for games you get countered on.

Bruh

Droll ratio

Really glad this thread is convincing of the rampant swordsoul problem.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by Sheepman:

It's not a surprise and not a secret that new decks are strong to support sales, espesically in a game without set rotation.

Yeah, no, when a deck starts hitting those percentages Konami has made a Dragon Ruler/Zoodiac level error.

The next highest usage rate from last year was Phantom Knights at around 30% at the highest. Numbers like that haven't been around since the days of full power Zoodiacs back around 2017.

Prior to Splights, this is how the meta looked in the OCG (this is just a couple weeks before):
- Branded Despia: 13.9%
- Floowandareeze: 11.5%
- Tenyi: 10.7%
- Drytron: 9%
- Mysterune: 4.9%
- Bird Up: 4.9%
- Adventure Virtual World: 3.3%
- Branded Eldlich: 3.3%
- Tenyi Swordsoul: 3.3%
- Therions: 3.3%
- Other: 32%

[ApocRNG]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Like people are already forgetting this thread is about Swordswords and are willing to piggy-back off anyone else making a complaint, even if it's not consistent with their own. Pivoting the conversation into like 40 different directions.

Why are you like this

Yup.
I never considered complaining about decks like tri-brigade, eldlich, or drytron because there is a way to stop those decently easily.

Swordsoul is a whole other level of power, they have three cards that can give themselves a free powerful synchro for pretty much no cost. they're guaranteed to atleast get 1 powerful synchro on the field, and then if they run the standard monsters to summon DPE, a free hard to out destruction per turn. You need a very specific hand to deal with these kinds of decks, or a very specific deck. I'm not going to uncraft all my decks just to create a counter deck when I would much rather play a deck I enjoy playing.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

Dawg it's not even lowered at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all. You see it less cause new cards released and the same omni negate players see a deck with high consistency to set up 3 omni negates turn 1.

As long as Eva is in the game it's still the strongest turn 1 omni negate there is.

Swordsoul has high limitations due to restricting to Synchro. Drytron can set up a 4 material Zeus when there Herald plays fail without dedicating anything but 2 extra deck slots.

That's the reason the decks broken, Eva for omni negate and Zeus for games you get countered on.

Bruh

Droll ratio

"Just run Dark Ruler No More"
"Ash Blossom the starter"

"Draw the out bro"

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by Aldain:

Yeah, no, when a deck starts hitting those percentages Konami has made a Dragon Ruler/Zoodiac level error.

The next highest usage rate from last year was Phantom Knights at around 30% at the highest. Numbers like that haven't been around since the days of full power Zoodiacs back around 2017.

Dude thinks 62% is tier 0.

Actually yes.

When it comes to representation, anything above 60% representation is considered tier 0 for tournament purposes, so in that regard, he is right.