Anyone fear the unbannings?

[Dead-eye (huntsman)]

I fear we will unlock a new level meta grossness

[Thain]

Fear comes from not understanding. Have you personally played and played against those cards? Or did you just hearsay else where it was a meta card?

So far cards that were unban, I have not seen much comes into play.

[76561199543893354]

Doubt either of them will be near the meta. The only thing to fear now are DMs who have the potential to become a dangerous opponent.

[Merilirem]

Not really. These don't do anything obvious to push the meta higher.

[Merilirem]

Floodgates scare me more and most of them are still legal.

[Silyon]

If unbanning Yata-Garasu had zero impact on the game, so will these unbannings. These are former meta cards, keyword former and their decks haven't been updated since their bans. At worst, Master Peace gets shoehorned into Swordsoul builds as an extra boss and a handful of struggling decks use Knightmare Goblin for an extra normal summon.

None of them are any more oppressive than what Yubel and Snake Eye are putting out already. This is why they're getting unbanned, the game's evolved since they were put on the list and they're no longer the threats they once were.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Silyon:

If unbanning Yata-Garasu had zero impact on the game, so will these unbannings. These are former meta cards, keyword former and their decks haven't been updated since their bans. At worst, Master Peace gets shoehorned into Swordsoul builds as an extra boss and a handful of struggling decks use Knightmare Goblin for an extra normal summon.

None of them are any more oppressive than what Yubel and Snake Eye are putting out already. This is why they're getting unbanned, the game's evolved since they were put on the list and they're no longer the threats they once were.

Someone will have to be really clever to figure out a way of turning these into part of a combo or endboard that improves Meta relevant decks. Sometimes it happens but usually you can see it coming because of synergy.

[matija123123]

Yeah they pushed too hard. Dragoon is completely fine dpe exists which is stronger and isn't really being played.

diagram is fine because it's just consistency for a bad deck.

masterpiece himself is probably going to be fine but I don't want him in the game because it's exclusively a stun card and I don't want to look at the board of a tower monster that pops cards with a monarchs skill drain on the field.

Knightmares are a problem people don't see that with a expended cardpool cards like those only get stronger, at worst these two now turn any two cards into a full orcust combo, god knows what people will come up with in the future.

Ib is in theory and practice fine now but again the problem is there is no future proofing and it takes only a couple of badly designed cards for all 3 of these cards to be on the ban list again.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by matija123123:

masterpiece himself is probably going to be fine but I don't want him in the game because it's exclusively a stun card and I don't want to look at the board of a tower monster that pops cards with a monarchs skill drain on the field.

Peace is a card that should be fine because all he does is show us how broken stun is. If I had my way stun would be getting hit instead. We should hit the cards that do the problematic thing instead of hitting cards like peace who are doing nothing wrong.

[Soji]

Not particularly, I'm actually looking forward to them a lot.

[matija123123]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by matija123123:

masterpiece himself is probably going to be fine but I don't want him in the game because it's exclusively a stun card and I don't want to look at the board of a tower monster that pops cards with a monarchs skill drain on the field.

Peace is a card that should be fine because all he does is show us how broken stun is. If I had my way stun would be getting hit instead. We should hit the cards that do the problematic thing instead of hitting cards like peace who are doing nothing wrong.

Yeah sure I stand behind that but we have to be realistic and understand that Konami is not going to hit floodgates unless they really really have to.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by matija123123:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Peace is a card that should be fine because all he does is show us how broken stun is. If I had my way stun would be getting hit instead. We should hit the cards that do the problematic thing instead of hitting cards like peace who are doing nothing wrong.

Yeah sure I stand behind that but we have to be realistic and understand that Konami is not going to hit floodgates unless they really really have to.

I can only hope they change otherwise we will lose everything that is fun and cool that happens to be floodgate friendly too.

[Ryoga]

No, quite the opposite. For many of them the issue has never even been the cards they are now unbanning. Master Peace wasn't the problem, the out of archetype floodgates (mainly the Monarch stuff) were. Similarly with Dragoon: he wasn't the issue, the badly designed Link-2 was.

If anything I fear that they will still ban Dragoon from stuff like the anime festivals while all the other Decks are ofc. allowed to use their more recent support.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Ryoga:

No, quite the opposite. For many of them the issue has never even been the cards they are now unbanning. Master Peace wasn't the problem, the out of archetype floodgates (mainly the Monarch stuff) were. Similarly with Dragoon: he wasn't the issue, the badly designed Link-2 was.

If anything I fear that they will still ban Dragoon from stuff like the anime festivals while all the other Decks are ofc. allowed to use their more recent support.

A DM/REDEYES event better let them keep Dragoon. It would be criminal to ban core cards.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by Ryoga:

No, quite the opposite. For many of them the issue has never even been the cards they are now unbanning. Master Peace wasn't the problem, the out of archetype floodgates (mainly the Monarch stuff) were. Similarly with Dragoon: he wasn't the issue, the badly designed Link-2 was.

If anything I fear that they will still ban Dragoon from stuff like the anime festivals while all the other Decks are ofc. allowed to use their more recent support.

A DM/REDEYES event better let them keep Dragoon. It would be criminal to ban core cards.

S:P hasn't been allowed in a single link event since S:P was released...

edit: to clarify the relevance, they don't particularly care about the events themselves either. Hell, they had the no ED event that screams mikanko, and banned it. The point is once they have an idea of how an event "should" be played, anything that goes outside it is just neutered.

[Nephilim]

those unbans won't be even remotely as toxic as tenpai or yubel degeneracy