Easy ways to search floogates

[e-dood]

I figure fun conversation to be have is how easy floodgates can be to search, what cards are often used and how to deal with them with commonly used cards in the game.

I figure helping out the newer and more casual players would do some good overall.

I figure using video examples would be useful for the more common ones.

Obviously, the practicality of these is going to vary.



And easy one to remember was Scythe lock with Spright Live Twin. Getting Dagda
onto the field and using its ability to get put scythe on board is pretty easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6F6haOcw5E

An older decklist without Spright, but shows the basics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T571NEZOtE

A newer one (tho with the lifts on Spright stuff will make the deck a bit more flexible). As we can see, these aren't the hardest to do and decently consistent.

Tho they seem fairly weak to fairly standard staples like Imperm, Veiler and Ash. Its just about what to hit and when. And really, this pretty much goes for most of what is going to talked about.

While older, Swordsoul can still reliably get to Protos. Granted, that choice largely varies on the meta in general. But it is fairly consistent overall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1AU7uKe9Y

Ritual Beast can get to it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voR28D2Ab18

Pretty sure they can also get to Thunder Dragon Colossus as well with Corridor.

Then you got anything fairly mono attribute that can go into Curious to dump pretty much any one you want then go into Knightmare Gryphon to set it up. Two for one floodgate sale

Again, the more common staples can help if not outright stop them.

These are a few that I can post before I have to go to work. What would you all like to add to this as I k now that there are a lot more out there. Vaylentz getting multiple isn't the hardest thing to do without a normal summon

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Play HERO and you have access to easy search + summon floodgates

Play any Pendulum deck and you have a free Secret Village

[Pastor Shotty McBangJump]

There was the brief fad of ‘Stun 2’.

It used Runicks/Ahrima to dig for Pharaonic Advent, summoned him by tributing a Runick, and tributed another Runick to search any continuous trap.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Originally posted by Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!:

Play HERO and you have access to easy search + summon floodgates

Play any Pendulum deck and you have a free Secret Village

Majespecter is the deck that can will itself a spell field as part of their usual lines.
Every other deck has to jump some hoops, for example Valyantz prefers Fossil Dyna for a reason. You just make Granite and search it and since you never touch your normal summon, well there you go.

If your deck generates card advantage, you can play 3 metaverse and search whatever.

Yubel has this line I have practiced where you make Beatriz off from Abyss Actor Superstar and then you go for Knightmare Griffin but needs a pretty complicated setup if you want to pull it off after being interrupted but you can get anything you want. I usually go for Anti-Spell to counter Tenpai as Tenpai relies on Spells to break the board and one Tenpai guy did open Cosmic and blind banished Anti-Spell. I am not too mad about it because the heart of the card has been really kind to me lately.

Personally, I heavily dislike floodgates, you are abusing the fact that BO1 is a busted format where people are not carrying board breakers or enough of them anyways.

Centur-Ion is the worst in that aspect, just play 6 floodgates like Deck Lockdown and drop them at the end of the turn. Auxilia prevents them from being destroyed. So even hard drawing Heavy Storm does nothing. I dislike Master Rank because the game revolves heavily around handtraps and floodgates, any viable tech options are incredibly UR heavy and it feels that my worst enemy is the RNG.

Despite the meta lists, the best decks in my case is Centur-Ion. Most of my deck are handtraps, the Centur-ION engine is very compact and I can carry 6 floodgates.

I never touching Master Rank again, I want to go back to Gold, Master is not enjoyable and the gems are not worth it. You are slaving yourself to build the next meta deck.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Also don't forget the new Arcana Force has a floodgate and has easy access to The World

[Terminal Desolation]

Originally posted by Pastor Shotty McBangJump:

There was the brief fad of ‘Stun 2’.

It used Runicks/Ahrima to dig for Pharaonic Advent, summoned him by tributing a Runick, and tributed another Runick to search any continuous trap.

This is the one I was thinking of, the big dumb idiot who just searches any continuous trap.

Stun variants that put bodies on board (Runick and Horus) will soon have the option to make Verte into Dragoon, assuming the leaks are true.

There's also options involving sending floodgates to the GY (something like FBG, Curious, Beatrice) and bringing them back with Knightmare Gryphon.

[Soji]

I've had Virtual World pretty consistently dump Rollback+ that mayakashi trap into their GY first turn. Not exactly searching, but its functionally the same. Very funny but annoying and shows how Beatrice probably needs an errata.

[G3]

Well damn OP. I didn't know Live twin Spright could Scythe Lock. Now I know what I'm doing with those alt arts I got from the bundle.

I would also like to add that any deck playing Ancient Fairy Dragon can search a floodgate in Secret Village. I'm doing it with S-E Spyral. Snake-Eyes are the ones facilitating it. Both Diabellestars are Spellcasters on their own. Witch can even put itself back on the field. So they'll have to break the spell lock twice if they don't have their own spellcasters.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Originally posted by G3:

Well damn OP. I didn't know Live twin Spright could Scythe Lock. Now I know what I'm doing with those alt arts I got from the bundle.

I would also like to add that any deck playing Ancient Fairy Dragon can search a floodgate in Secret Village. I'm doing it with S-E Spyral. Snake-Eyes are the ones facilitating it. Both Diabellestars are Spellcasters on their own. Witch can even put itself back on the field. So they'll have to break the spell lock twice if they don't have their own spellcasters.

The scythe lock is not as cracked up as you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0DZPY2J14M

[G3]

Originally posted by Knud den Store 🧙‍♂:

The scythe lock is not as cracked up as you think.

Yeah I'm sure. Otherwise everyone would be doing it. I just like to try and tech these things in sometimes. I don't really go for Sanctifire when I play Branded but, I have as an option. Arcjet Lightcraft is the fun light option I'm using.

[HeraldOfOpera]

To look at the original topic sideways, I would argue that Dimensional Barrier is a rare case of a floodgate that actually requires skill to use. You have to know how your opponent's deck works in order to get any use out of it, just like with negates. Are there any others like that?

[e-dood]

Thinking about it, Trap Trick into any you need like D-Barrier or Metaverse into a field spell.

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

To look at the original topic sideways, I would argue that Dimensional Barrier is a rare case of a floodgate that actually requires skill to use. You have to know how your opponent's deck works in order to get any use out of it, just like with negates. Are there any others like that?

Honestly, D-Barrier can almost get a pass as you are correct in you need to know what your opponent is using.

Originally posted by Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!:

Play HERO and you have access to easy search + summon floodgates

Play any Pendulum deck and you have a free Secret Village

God help me, Pends have a lot of nonsense to them.

Originally posted by Knud den Store 🧙‍♂:

Personally, I heavily dislike floodgates, you are abusing the fact that BO1 is a busted format where people are not carrying board breakers or enough of them anyways.

I never touching Master Rank again, I want to go back to Gold, Master is not enjoyable and the gems are not worth it. You are slaving yourself to build the next meta deck.

Honestly, I do tend to dislike floodgates as they are simply no fun to play or play against. I figure this topic can be useful for more casual players.

And I'm glad I never went even got close to Master rank in this game. I like slumming it in low Plat. You at least get a decent variety of decks to play.

Originally posted by G3:

Well damn OP. I didn't know Live twin Spright could Scythe Lock. Now I know what I'm doing with those alt arts I got from the bundle.

I would also like to add that any deck playing Ancient Fairy Dragon can search a floodgate in Secret Village. I'm doing it with S-E Spyral. Snake-Eyes are the ones facilitating it. Both Diabellestars are Spellcasters on their own. Witch can even put itself back on the field. So they'll have to break the spell lock twice if they don't have their own spellcasters.

You get hit with Scythe lock once, you kind of remember it, lol.

God, AFD is one of those cards that really isn't used for anything healthy, is it.

Originally posted by Soji:

I've had Virtual World pretty consistently dump Rollback+ that mayakashi trap into their GY first turn. Not exactly searching, but its functionally the same. Very funny but annoying and shows how Beatrice probably needs an errata.

I figure being functionally the same counts.

I still need to eventually build VW. Looks fun.

Rollback being one of those cards that was a completer mistake to print.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by e-dood:

God, AFD is one of those cards that really isn't used for anything healthy, is it.

Rollback being one of those cards that was a completer mistake to print.

Both are from the anime, so Konami's terrible designers were only partially to blame. AFD in particular is prominent enough that they basically had to print it.

[e-dood]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by e-dood:

God, AFD is one of those cards that really isn't used for anything healthy, is it.

Rollback being one of those cards that was a completer mistake to print.

Both are from the anime, so Konami's terrible designers were only partially to blame. AFD in particular is prominent enough that they basically had to print it.

Very true.

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

To look at the original topic sideways, I would argue that Dimensional Barrier is a rare case of a floodgate that actually requires skill to use. You have to know how your opponent's deck works in order to get any use out of it, just like with negates. Are there any others like that?

I feel like that's a bit of a stretch. In the vast majority of cases, it will either be very obvious a few cards into the game which summoning mechanic your opponent will be relying on or they will straight up be locked into it. The only time this would come up is if you played against one of the 5 people in the world who use lore-accurate d/d/d decks or something. Otherwise the only skill check of the card is to pass the reading check to see that it can choose rituals or pendulums but not links

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

To look at the original topic sideways, I would argue that Dimensional Barrier is a rare case of a floodgate that actually requires skill to use. You have to know how your opponent's deck works in order to get any use out of it, just like with negates. Are there any others like that?

I feel like that's a bit of a stretch. In the vast majority of cases, it will either be very obvious a few cards into the game which summoning mechanic your opponent will be relying on or they will straight up be locked into it. The only time this would come up is if you played against one of the 5 people in the world who use lore-accurate d/d/d decks or something. Otherwise the only skill check of the card is to pass the reading check to see that it can choose rituals or pendulums but not links

I'm comparing to other floodgates here, where having to so much as look at your opponent's cards is the exception and not the rule.

Also, imagine you see a Tuner and call Synchro. Oops, it's Infernoid Decatron whose in-archetype Extra Deck is a Fusion (or Link, which isn't eligible).