Cards that should be banned

[Mikeaveli]

I'll start with the obvious

Maxx "C"
True King of All Calamities
Block Dragon
Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom
Kaiser Colosseum
Imperial Order

What else?

[Sea Slugger]

Plenty of cards of Eldrich and Aleister they are too far broken and it ain't fun to play against those deck unless you get a Kaiju or Nibiru on your starting hand or else you are screwed.

[Atomicbean]

Considering it's basically confirmed this game is working on it's own banlist and format now, Eldlich needs to be hit, Drytron probably needs to be weakened but not killed - Maybe limit something.

If we're never getting side decking, I think IO is fine at 1, Skill Drain should DEFINITELY join it but stay legal, and eldlich itself should maybe see a semi or 2.
Maxx C is actually weirdly fine in the format, again, due to no siding.

I think the game would benefit from a ton of power-generics getting hit, like Appo, BSD, UC, and other things that really drive up general consistency - Even cards that are fine in a normal full format, like some of the pots, super poly, etc. should perhaps be considered.

The kind of stuff that just instantly wins you the game the first time it's used, because you just... can't go "ok, let's side this in, this out, and play around that" - I actually think MD probably needs a MUCH stricter banlist if we're moving forward with this format, but also to allow certain cards to stick around that otherwise wouldn't - Like Maxx C. Most meta decks don't even run it, or run it at 1 or 2, because it's just not that relevant, and with no siding, it's a huge consistency dampener when it's probably not even going to be truly live like 70% of the time you draw it.

[VukasinDordevic]

Publicado originalmente por LunesseHD:

I think we need to talk about Numeron Xyz Monster or better saying. Limited the Spell cards Numeron network to 1 and Numeron Calling to 1 or complet banning.

I say it out loud. The Combination from these cards are Cheating.

Opponent begins on round 2 to use this cards, and attack with 4 Numeron Monsters. All 4 Monsters become 1000ATK per Attack. 4x Attack = 4 Monsters with 4000 ATK.

but I think it would be better if there would be a new version of the XYZ Numeron cards, where the effect is activated only 1x

if you were dealing with 1-2 Numeron xyz monsters, Okay. You might find help against that. But 4? impossible to defeat them, even if they are banished after the turn.

Several times I was defeated by these decks within 1 turn, because no defense after the 2nd attack.

if the opponent has Ashblossom or other handtraps, which prevents you from building up a defense, you can give up directly.

Oh and yes

Play Max C and your Opponent uses not more then 3 Summons

Maxx C is the perfect counter to prevent players from building up a defense, because you know what is behind Maxx C. Nibiru

I play numeron and i can tell you there are enough ways to defeat numeron easily! All you want is (YOU WIN EVERYTIME)

[Captain john]

crooked cook.

[MancakeBR]

Publicado originalmente por kuroma2:

crooked cook.

It's so easy to stop Crooked Cook lmao

[Hearthand]

EVA and Orange Herald needs to be forbidden to hit Drytron
Astrograph Magician needs the ban to hit Pendulum Magician
Eldlich needs a hit banning Imperial Order and Vanity
Virtual World needs a hit banning Calamities
Tri-brigade Zoo needs ban Fire Formation Tenki

[DS: Artorias of the Abyss (PS3)]

Publicado originalmente por HH:

EVA and Orange Herald needs to be forbidden to hit Drytron
Astrograph Magician needs the ban to hit Pendulum Magician
Eldlich needs a hit banning Imperial Order and Vanity
Virtual World needs a hit banning Calamities
Tri-brigade Zoo needs ban Fire Formation Tenki

you do realize that drytrons are an engine right lol

[Aldain]

Publicado originalmente por Mary:

you do realize that drytrons are an engine right lol

Well they do have their own boss monsters, it just so happens that because of Konami's peanut brain it also can spam out Heralds which are better than the actual two 4k boss monsters they come with because of omni-negation.

[Lazer]

Simorgh, Bird of Sovereignty

[Silamon]

Publicado originalmente por Lazer:

Simorgh, Bird of Sovereignty

Already banned in TCG, I imagine it will get hit here soon too.

[Captain Murphy The Villian]

Publicado originalmente por Mary:

Publicado originalmente por HH:

EVA and Orange Herald needs to be forbidden to hit Drytron
Astrograph Magician needs the ban to hit Pendulum Magician
Eldlich needs a hit banning Imperial Order and Vanity
Virtual World needs a hit banning Calamities
Tri-brigade Zoo needs ban Fire Formation Tenki

you do realize that drytrons are an engine right lol

You realize EVA is the problem with drytrons and it feeding the graveyard for Herald of Ultimateness? There's a reason they hit EVA in the TCG and not the drytrons.

[John Stellarum]

Publicado originalmente por C.C. アヌビス:

Publicado originalmente por WolfgangDS:

Why? Because I don't define interaction as "who can shut down the other player first"?

Because how do you define "problematic"?

Maxx "C" should be banned, there's no discussion around that, but everything else? In the TCG, where Maxx "C" is banned, lots of decks don't run Ash, so by that metric, she's not problematic if you don't need her to stop that bug.

Or what about Battle Fader and Swift Scarecrow? Those are problematic because they can deny you the whole battle phase and stall turns on end.

Ash hits far more than Maxx "C" and you know it. People are going to run it with or without Maxx "C" in the meta. Disruption is not something that should be given so much leeway. It should barely be tolerated.

Battle Fader and Swift Scarecrow are fine. Neither one stops the opponent from playing their cards, they only stop them from killing you in one turn. And before you say "So does Ash", that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and you know it. In boxing there's a significant difference between dodging a punch and paying someone to break your opponent's arm. Fader and Scarecrow are the equivalent of dodging a punch. Ash is the equivalent of breaking the other guy's arm right as they're winding up. Hardly fair, wouldn't you say?

I disagree with the banning of Maxx "C". It provides additional cards for the person using it, which only serves as disincentive to continue Special Summoning, but this doesn't always stop players. Some are willing to take the Maxx "C" Challenge. Sometimes they even succeed. I've taken it when I thought I could win. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't. But of all the times I've taken the challenge, I promise you I've succeeded more than either of us would think.

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Publicado originalmente por Kyutaru:

Eldlich and Skill Drain I'm sure people would love to see up there. :summer2019cockatiel:

skill drain was un banned and isunlimted in recent ban list

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Publicado originalmente por Mikeaveli:

I'll start with the obvious

Maxx "C"
True King of All Calamities
Block Dragon
Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom
Kaiser Colosseum
Imperial Order

What else?

if ur really haveing a problme with maxx c something wrong just dont do 20 summons order is banned recent list but master duel its limited to 1 so if they didnt ban it in master duel then its fine just pop it with a monster effect or do red reboot lol so many ways to counter the cards u dont like u dont even try to find the ways to beat them

[Lexida]

number 86 : rhongomyniad ?