for those who want to read it

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I would like to begin by expressing my dissatisfaction not with the game but with the players, all the duels or the vast majority of them are against the same decks, there is no variety of decks but rather in a day you can face caidos de albaz 70 times, 40 Swordsoul decks with their respective flower baronesses and other synchrony monsters, 60 labrislinto decks, etc. I miss the days when Yugioh players insisted more on building their decks based on strategy and not on ending the duel in one turn, making summons in the main phase of your opponent, basically, you can't even place a face down card without asking your opponent for permission, not to mention the fact that they summon 30 monsters (10 on their turn and 20 on the opponent's turn).
PS: I know it's a lot of text to read, but I would like the few who have time to read it to think a little that yugioh is a game to have fun and not to get stressed out. greetings to all

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Greetings OP! Don't express your dissatisfaction with neither the players or the game. Blame it on Konami for not only encouraging and cultivating a product that mainly adheres to the competitive crowd but also not doing their due diligence into catering to their casual market.

What you feel in regards to individuals and the decks they use is surface level at best but I am currently tired and do not feel like repeating my same points for the umpteenth time. You heard the phrase don't hate the player, hate the game but as I initially stated, instead hate the ones running the game.

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Bro think his deck so original lmao

[Hoshi]

I'm going to give you honest advice here, OP, if you care to hear it.

Play through solo mode to get a grasp of how card interactions and summoning mechanics work (the solo mode is actually a really decent tutorial).

Then, look up some tournament decklists online (OCG, not TCG), play them in YGO Omega (which is free), learn how modern decks play and what they do. Try lots of different decks to see what sort of playstyle clicks with you. Judging by your vitriol and general disdain for combo players, might I suggest control decks like Labrynth, Altergeist, or Vanquish Soul?

Unfortunately, Master Duel was always marketed as a competitive simulator for those already into Yugioh, even if the solo modes are probably some of the best tutorials for modern Yugioh available.

It's not 2004. The game has moved on from T set pass, and Konami hasn't delivered on their promise to provide alternate formats and modes, so our only consistent mode of play is still just... Ranked. If you want to play, you'll have to learn to play modern Yugioh with all of its flaws, and you'll have to tolerate those kinds of decks, so your only option besides quitting is to hunker down and learn to beat them.

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Originally posted by ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Greetings OP! Don't express your dissatisfaction with neither the players or the game. Blame it on Konami for not only encouraging and cultivating a product that mainly adheres to the competitive crowd but also not doing their due diligence into catering to their casual market.

What you feel in regards to individuals and the decks they use is surface level at best but I am currently tired and do not feel like repeating my same points for the umpteenth time. You heard the phrase don't hate the player, hate the game but as I initially stated, instead hate the ones running the game.

I agree with you 50%, but the game developers do not force players to make their decks, it is the players themselves who decide to search the internet and make a copy of winning decks from tournaments, championships, etc., without even knowing how to play it, simply copy-paste what you see, that's why I express my dissatisfaction with the players, since you don't see six samurai decks, lightsworn, gladiator beasts, among other decks that are good to play, but no, it's easier , create something like soul sword or have 3 ash blossoms, 3 infinite impermanence in their decks like all the deck profiles that can be found on the internet. greetings.

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

I agree with you 50%, but the game developers do not force players to make their decks, it is the players themselves who decide to search the internet and make a copy of winning decks from tournaments, championships, etc., without even knowing how to play it, simply copy-paste what you see, that's why I express my dissatisfaction with the players, since you don't see six samurai decks, lightsworn, gladiator beasts, among other decks that are good to play, but no, it's easier , create something like soul sword or have 3 ash blossoms, 3 infinite impermanence in their decks like all the deck profiles that can be found on the internet. greetings.

And what makes you so certain that all these people copied those decks and didn't just decide to build a deck that is popular or strong or being advertised in the main menu? Not many people play decks from 15 years ago because, shockingly, those decks are outdated and do not have the same amount of support as a deck released in the past 3 years

[76561199641711275]

Originally posted by Hoshi:

I'm going to give you honest advice here, OP, if you care to hear it.

Play through solo mode to get a grasp of how card interactions and summoning mechanics work (the solo mode is actually a really decent tutorial).

Then, look up some tournament decklists online (OCG, not TCG), play them in YGO Omega (which is free), learn how modern decks play and what they do. Try lots of different decks to see what sort of playstyle clicks with you. Judging by your vitriol and general disdain for combo players, might I suggest control decks like Labrynth, Altergeist, or Vanquish Soul?

Unfortunately, Master Duel was always marketed as a competitive simulator for those already into Yugioh, even if the solo modes are probably some of the best tutorials for modern Yugioh available.

It's not 2004. The game has moved on from T set pass, and Konami hasn't delivered on their promise to provide alternate formats and modes, so our only consistent mode of play is still just... Ranked. If you want to play, you'll have to learn to play modern Yugioh with all of its flaws, and you'll have to tolerate those kinds of decks, so your only option besides quitting is to hunker down and learn to beat them.

I really appreciate your advice, I really do, but in my opinion the reason why I made this post has not been understood, I do not hate players, simply what I have observed since I started playing master duel is that there is no reason to improvement, nor finding players who are really good (sorry for those who are and really play an entertaining game) as I have expressed before, my discontent is because you find yourself in the day basically in most of the opponents that I face, decks that They are repeated, as I said at the beginning, you face the same decks 30 times. greetings.

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Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

Originally posted by ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Greetings OP! Don't express your dissatisfaction with neither the players or the game. Blame it on Konami for not only encouraging and cultivating a product that mainly adheres to the competitive crowd but also not doing their due diligence into catering to their casual market.

What you feel in regards to individuals and the decks they use is surface level at best but I am currently tired and do not feel like repeating my same points for the umpteenth time. You heard the phrase don't hate the player, hate the game but as I initially stated, instead hate the ones running the game.

I agree with you 50%, but the game developers do not force players to make their decks, it is the players themselves who decide to search the internet and make a copy of winning decks from tournaments, championships, etc., without even knowing how to play it, simply copy-paste what you see, that's why I express my dissatisfaction with the players, since you don't see six samurai decks, lightsworn, gladiator beasts, among other decks that are good to play, but no, it's easier , create something like soul sword or have 3 ash blossoms, 3 infinite impermanence in their decks like all the deck profiles that can be found on the internet. greetings.

"You're a third rate duelist with a fourth rate deck" - Seto Kaiba
I suggest you listen to Kaiba.

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Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

And what makes you so certain that all these people copied those decks and didn't just decide to build a deck that is popular or strong or being advertised in the main menu? Not many people play decks from 15 years ago because, shockingly, those decks are outdated and do not have the same amount of support as a deck released in the past 3 years

I'm going to answer that question easily, without wanting to disrespect you or anything like that, simply because they have the same cards, the same number of repeated cards, the same profile that you find on the internet.

[Astrallight]

Originally posted by IsZ:

Bro think his deck so original lmao

Thats the problem. No one knows if his own deck is something he made himself or he just another copy cat playing something he lost to and then copied his opponent's deck.

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Originally posted by Astrallight:

Originally posted by IsZ:

Bro think his deck so original lmao

Thats the problem. No one knows if his own deck is something he made himself or he just another copy cat playing something he lost to and then copied his opponent's deck.

The fact that op tell people to play six samurai, lightsworn, and gladiator beast, his deck is definitely not original.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

Originally posted by ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Greetings OP! Don't express your dissatisfaction with neither the players or the game. Blame it on Konami for not only encouraging and cultivating a product that mainly adheres to the competitive crowd but also not doing their due diligence into catering to their casual market.

What you feel in regards to individuals and the decks they use is surface level at best but I am currently tired and do not feel like repeating my same points for the umpteenth time. You heard the phrase don't hate the player, hate the game but as I initially stated, instead hate the ones running the game.

I agree with you 50%, but the game developers do not force players to make their decks, it is the players themselves who decide to search the internet and make a copy of winning decks from tournaments, championships, etc., without even knowing how to play it, simply copy-paste what you see, that's why I express my dissatisfaction with the players, since you don't see six samurai decks, lightsworn, gladiator beasts, among other decks that are good to play, but no, it's easier , create something like soul sword or have 3 ash blossoms, 3 infinite impermanence in their decks like all the deck profiles that can be found on the internet. greetings.

If the 3 decks you claim are good to play then people would play them. Lightsworn once it's new support drops will be another copy-paste deck for you to complain about, but GB and Six Samurai will never be good hell Six Sam isn't even playable due to the timer

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

Originally posted by ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Greetings OP! Don't express your dissatisfaction with neither the players or the game. Blame it on Konami for not only encouraging and cultivating a product that mainly adheres to the competitive crowd but also not doing their due diligence into catering to their casual market.

What you feel in regards to individuals and the decks they use is surface level at best but I am currently tired and do not feel like repeating my same points for the umpteenth time. You heard the phrase don't hate the player, hate the game but as I initially stated, instead hate the ones running the game.

I agree with you 50%, but the game developers do not force players to make their decks, it is the players themselves who decide to search the internet and make a copy of winning decks from tournaments, championships, etc., without even knowing how to play it, simply copy-paste what you see, that's why I express my dissatisfaction with the players, since you don't see six samurai decks, lightsworn, gladiator beasts, among other decks that are good to play, but no, it's easier , create something like soul sword or have 3 ash blossoms, 3 infinite impermanence in their decks like all the deck profiles that can be found on the internet. greetings.

No, it is 100% on Konami. By refusing to have different formats and creating actually significant support for these older strategies to shine, for individuals who want to WIN (because nobody likes losing) you are incentivized to run particular decks. The power of these decks are also nothing new to Konami as we are merely getting the curated hand-me-downs from the TCG and OCG and STILL let some of the more problematic aspects of decks and strategies seep in through without initially culling them which they have shown they have the capacity to do. Some older decks in the right setting can become meta under the right circumstances like how Madolche, one of my favorite examples was used as a relatively successful deck for a short period of time fairly recently.

You can not shame people for not lowering themselves to whatever artificial level you want them to be because they aren't playing what you want them to be playing. Those decks like six sams, lightsworn etc. HAD their time to shine in the spotlight and MAY get their time in the spotlight in the future. And without set rotation like MTG and PKMN TCG you should be thankful you are still able to even use those decks to begin with despite them being powercrept on TOP of not knowing if support may eventually come out for them in the future which may rocket them into meta or a more playable rogue status and we will inevitably repeat the cycle of people complaining about people using the best that's out there. So WHAT if people copy a winning deck? There are so many ways to build with so many cards with different ratios for how people want to play them, not to mention that the deck might not always be optimal forever that people might just not have the time or patience to bang their head against the wall and let the actual professionals who clearly know this game better than them to have a bookmark to start off from.

Posts like these boil down to "I don't like how people play the game" when at the end of the day there is nothing to be gained by choosing to play sub-optimally other than a useless self-inflicted sense of pride that is often derived from the glorified commercial that was the anime. If you want to play rogue or lower powered decks, that's great, good for you. But don't be upset at people for playing how THEY want to play. Blame the company that refuses to put the legwork in so that all of their community can be happy. And before you assume; cause I have people used this as a means to discredit what I say, I am neither a competitive player nor am I a meta user defending the status quo. I play rogue, I am happy to play rogue because the strategies I enjoy playing just happen to be rogue. And if my deck isn't up to snuff with the current meta game, I try something else. That's it. That's what it SHOULD be it for everyone.

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

I'm going to answer that question easily, without wanting to disrespect you or anything like that, simply because they have the same cards, the same number of repeated cards, the same profile that you find on the internet.

And no disrespect to you, but it is quite childish to draw such a conclusion about such a thing. People play similar cards in a deck because those are obviously the best choices for that deck. If you play swordsoul without mo ye or longyuan, that's not original, that's just a suboptimal deck. Even the structure deck comes with max copies of both, you would have to intentionally remove the best starters in the deck to end up without them. After all the obvious choices and ratios are decided, there is much more flexibility for people to add in different tech cards, and that is where you start seeing real deck diversity if you're looking for it.

I know it's every returning yugioh player's rite of passage to confront the fact that playground yugioh was not real yugioh, but it really is tiring to see the same fallacies over and over. Playing a ranked ladder and getting upset about people playing good cards is...rather ignorant, to put it nicely. That's how it has always been in any competitive organized play, and it just kind of makes you look like you went to a pool and complained about getting wet if you get hung up on that

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Ok, so as not to repeat the same topic again, I just hope that those who read my initial words do not have to play 4 games in a row against the same deck with different players, which I find boring from my point of view. I really don't care if they call me whatever they want, I like Yugioh because of the diversity of cards it has, its strategies, the playability of its decks. I just hope they really understand and respect my perspective of the game. Greetings and finish with this topic.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Originally posted by yasmanyfuentes637:

Ok, so as not to repeat the same topic again, I just hope that those who read my initial words do not have to play 4 games in a row against the same deck with different players, which I find boring from my point of view. I really don't care if they call me whatever they want, I like Yugioh because of the diversity of cards it has, its strategies, the playability of its decks. I just hope they really understand and respect my perspective of the game. Greetings and finish with this topic.

At the end of the day, what makes your fun more valid than the fun of others? We understand where you are coming from but it ends up coming down to you pointing the fingers at the wrong people; again, for playing the game who have NO control over what other people play and it's just childish. You are ultimately saying "shame on people for enjoying something other people on mass are enjoying". Let people play the game how they want to and you play how you want to. As long as no one is actively cheating or behaving with bad sportsmanship no one should care about such a non issue. If you want to play different decks then wait for the meta game to change maybe. Bye OP.