mirrorjade ice dragon

[Darius]

Well written card

[HeraldOfOpera]

It is exceptionally janky even by Yugioh standards. I'm not even talking about power level here, look up rulings of how the card functions.

[Darius]

Is super strong maybe a tier S

[Exvalcore]

B Tier, a quick effect generic non specific removal that can only banish monsters on field every other turn with a send cost, while blowing up the other field when leaving field by opponents effect.

Baronne De Fu, on the other hand...

S Tier, a non quick effect specific target removal that destroys anything(not just monster)once per your turn, with a quick effect single use negate activation which destroys able to counter anything, who can on any standby phase revive a lv9 or lower monster while returning to extra deck to be summoned again.

It's on par with Albion Sanctifire & Mirror Jade combined.

[Naxreus]

card that should be banned, it can win games by itself

[Zephyr]

It's a little tiring seeing people use it in every single branded deck ngl.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

It's a little tiring seeing people use it in every single branded deck ngl.

It's their boss monster. The fact that they all use it and nobody else does is the one part of it that's undeniably good design.

[Exvalcore]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Zephyr:

It's a little tiring seeing people use it in every single branded deck ngl.

It's their boss monster. The fact that they all use it and nobody else does is the one part of it that's undeniably good design.

Wouldn't it be the inverse, if mirrorjade was so good every deck would be trying to fit it into their deck, my 1 mirrorjade barely sees play in my matches, it's a card that separates the skilled branded players from the trend followers that can't come up with cool comboes.

[Astrallight]

Originally posted by Exvalcore:

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

It's their boss monster. The fact that they all use it and nobody else does is the one part of it that's undeniably good design.

Wouldn't it be the inverse, if mirrorjade was so good every deck would be trying to fit it into their deck, my 1 mirrorjade barely sees play in my matches, it's a card that separates the skilled branded players from the trend followers that can't come up with cool comboes.

And what makes people a skilled Branded player ?

[Vento]

Originally posted by Exvalcore:

B Tier, a quick effect generic non specific removal that can only banish monsters on field every other turn with a send cost, while blowing up the other field when leaving field by opponents effect.

Baronne De Fu, on the other hand...

S Tier, a non quick effect specific target removal that destroys anything(not just monster)once per your turn, with a quick effect single use negate activation which destroys able to counter anything, who can on any standby phase revive a lv9 or lower monster while returning to extra deck to be summoned again.

It's on par with Albion Sanctifire & Mirror Jade combined.

baronne is better because it's splashable with no requirements, it negates activation and not effect with most cards you can activate a second copy the negate is non-hopt, but how many cards are there that can make a second baronne in a single turn? anything else is targeting which means you can interact with it. the actual text on mirrojade is literally custom: non-targeting non-hopt banish that sends a +1 for cost, which always mean a 2 for 1 trade, with a non activated raigeki if you clear it. nah

[The New Crusader]

Originally posted by Naxreus:

card that should be banned, it can win games by itself

Come on man. I'm as sick of Branded as the next guy, but you're telling me that Mirrorjade is obscenely overpowered and should be banned when we're in the middle of the second Tier 0 format in one year?

[Exvalcore]

Originally posted by Astrallight:

Originally posted by Exvalcore:

Wouldn't it be the inverse, if mirrorjade was so good every deck would be trying to fit it into their deck, my 1 mirrorjade barely sees play in my matches, it's a card that separates the skilled branded players from the trend followers that can't come up with cool comboes.

And what makes people a skilled Branded player ?

Skillful Combos & Good Deck Construction With Cheesy Summon Lock, sure you can't really prevent the standard Ash/Imperm from bricking you, but when you pop off you pop off, if a loser just branded fusions S.Lubellion & goes Mirrorjade/dump S.Albion Set Spell/Trap on End Phase, you know your dealing with a scrub, I can setup either a Lock & or Tax depending on hand, or route into a Lubellion+Branded Beast Combo, likely even Cartesia. All Turn One, Mileage Varies, Called By/Crossout maybe Merc can stop ash but it's hardly reliable/consistence.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Honestly I hate branded as much as the next guy and despite me loving the aesthetics of the deck; how overused it is (and especially how expensive it is) kind of turns me off from it but that's a personal flaw of mine. And personally speaking, my only gripe about Branded other than it's resilience is once you get rid of the dragon, it gives you the middle finger on the way out by destroying your field if you don't finish the duel on that turn.

[The New Crusader]

Originally posted by Exvalcore:

Skillful Combos & Good Deck Construction With Cheesy Summon Lock, sure you can't really prevent the standard Ash/Imperm from bricking you, but when you pop off you pop off, if a loser just branded fusions S.Lubellion & goes Mirrorjade/dump S.Albion Set Spell/Trap on End Phase, you know your dealing with a scrub, I can setup either a Lock & or Tax depending on hand, or route into a Lubellion+Branded Beast Combo, likely even Cartesia. All Turn One, Mileage Varies, Called By/Crossout maybe Merc can stop ash but it's hardly reliable/consistence.

I mean yeah. Come on man. At least do the Bystial Lubellion combo. That doesn't take much more thought than "Mirrorjade + Set 1 Pass" and it's already much better.

[Lasagna]

Originally posted by Endymion:

Originally posted by Naxreus:

card that should be banned, it can win games by itself

Come on man. I'm as sick of Branded as the next guy, but you're telling me that Mirrorjade is obscenely overpowered and should be banned when we're in the middle of the second Tier 0 format in one year?

I'm still amazed that people can hate branded so much when snake-eyes is tier 0.5 and will be tier 0 when bonfire/fire kings support comes out.

snake-eyes, lab, SHS are all running rampant but branded is clearly the problem somehow?

[nightmareside15]

Originally posted by Lasagna&Silly Bees:

Originally posted by Endymion:

Come on man. I'm as sick of Branded as the next guy, but you're telling me that Mirrorjade is obscenely overpowered and should be banned when we're in the middle of the second Tier 0 format in one year?

I'm still amazed that people can hate branded so much when snake-eyes is tier 0.5 and will be tier 0 when bonfire/fire kings support comes out.

snake-eyes, lab, SHS are all running rampant but branded is clearly the problem somehow?

No apo, no savage dragon, no baroness. And people still hate it. There are only one possible conclusion from these :

1. Branded is one of the best overall deck in general. But at the same it denying "you need to negate everything to make sure you win the game. Therefore generic boss monster is too OP".

2. Branded is not OP. Therefore the previous sentences from before is invalid.

3. People just hate anything that beat their deck.