hit kashtira unicron to one or get rid of it !!!

[fox5]

unicorn itself is a boss monster to mid range decks such as salamangreats and ghoti besides maxx being in the game i still mange, but man i tell you unicorn is too much.
to be able to select and throw any of my cards from the extra is op. not only does it yank two of my cards if i'm going second & choose to interact it does it (face down) so they are no longer playable, to add insult to injury it cost nothing to bring out and is at 3x . leaving me with the did you draw the out situation not to mention how splashable the archetype is right now.

the bottom line kashtira unicron is a extender that cost nothing to summon and is too hard of a counter to decks that rely on the extra deck to function.

[MancakeBR]

Look up Prohibition if you're that worried.

or Kaijus.

[Tempest Fox3]

Unicorn is Kashtira's only 1 card starter besides the field spell (Which is a 1 card starter because it gets you Unicorn)

They've already had Fenrir hit to 1 because everyone else used it and Birth to 1 because reasons. If you hit unicorn to 1 also the deck becomes unplayable.

Unicorn isn't the only card that has an extra deck rip anyway, perhaps just the most common. If you're not running at least 2 offs of important extra deck pieces these days thats kinda on you.

[Astrallight]

Then I would rather have Fenrir banned.

[Cheems]

Put theosis to one, trust.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Just slap Kashtira with a Plasma and watch them crumble, they aren't that good outside of being an engine

[Jamu ⚣]

Originally posted by Tempest Fox3:

Unicorn is Kashtira's only 1 card starter besides the field spell (Which is a 1 card starter because it gets you Unicorn)

They've already had Fenrir hit to 1 because everyone else used it and Birth to 1 because reasons. If you hit unicorn to 1 also the deck becomes unplayable.

Unicorn isn't the only card that has an extra deck rip anyway, perhaps just the most common. If you're not running at least 2 offs of important extra deck pieces these days thats kinda on you.

Making it unplayable is not the worst thing to do. This theme shouldn't have existed ever

[Ghost X]

Dude, Kashtira is not even on top tier 3 chill

[Fatality]

Judging by ocg ban list they will probably make kashtira more unplayable than it already is by limiting unicorn, because it is almost in every deck. I hope they don't. Kash is trash either way. Imagine hitting it so hard that it becomes unplayable just because everyone puts unicorn as tech instead of hitting the actual deck. Snake eye is the best example again...

[ガブ - Gabu]

Originally posted by Tempest Fox3:

They've already had Fenrir hit to 1 because everyone else used it and Birth to 1 because reasons. If you hit unicorn to 1 also the deck becomes unplayable.

Good. Kashtira, Tearlaments, Gothi, Snake-Eyes etc. should've never been printed.

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by ガブ - Gabu:

Good. Kashtira, Tearlaments, Gothi, Snake-Eyes etc. should've never been printed.

I was gonna reply with a snarky comment earlier but now I just can't stop laughing at the idea of putting ghoti in the same sentence as tearlaments and snake-eyes

[Terminal Desolation]

Originally posted by ガブ - Gabu:

Originally posted by Tempest Fox3:

They've already had Fenrir hit to 1 because everyone else used it and Birth to 1 because reasons. If you hit unicorn to 1 also the deck becomes unplayable.

Good. Kashtira, Tearlaments, Gothi, Snake-Eyes etc. should've never been printed.

I mean your credibility was already nearly 0 here, but I'm pretty sure it's in the negatives after complaining about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GHOTI.

I needed a good laugh, thanks.

[Hexi]

It honestly sucks how splashable the kashtira cards are in other decks, its going to get kashtira itself banned and left unplayable. It definitely does feel unfair to play against when splashed into other decks because it does so much, free summon that can recycle itself and makes the other player hold off on hand traps to protect their ed. Unpopular opinion but I actually think kashtira in its current state is a pretty fair deck to play against but the kashtira engine in other decks is pretty busted.

[fox5]

tbh i took a long break from yugioh specifically master duel before master ranking was out i think dpe and branded darklord was just starting to take off, so i wasn't around for the kashtira release having only returned at the start of this ranking season so i have no idea how good kash is if untouched by the ban list or how the rogue worked around it.
what i do know is that unicron needs an arata or something its too hard of a counter to extra deck reliant decks anybody who"s played salamangreat can tell you that you need at least 2x copies of your salamen extra deck monsters leaving me with a bit of room, if i'm going to get two cards ripped away that's basically a whole combo i cant use, i could do what @tempestFox3 said and run 3x but that would basically leave me with around 4 to 5 slots of free card space to play with and at that point why even play the deck if i cant add my own flair to it not to mention salamangreat extra deck monsters are not that good on their own.

@Ghost X its not about its ranking its about a single card that is at three and cost nothing to summon, splashable and can (by itself) stomp out decks, i know cards like alba zoa are out there but at least they are still playable when sent to the gy/bz and requires steps to get it on field. i don't have a problem with the rest of the kashtira archetype.

[Ghost X]

Originally posted by fox5:

tbh i took a long break from yugioh specifically master duel before master ranking was out i think dpe and branded darklord was just starting to take off, so i wasn't around for the kashtira release having only returned at the start of this ranking season so i have no idea how good kash is if untouched by the ban list or how the rogue worked around it.
what i do know is that unicron needs an arata or something its too hard of a counter to extra deck reliant decks anybody who"s played salamangreat can tell you that you need at least 2x copies of your salamen extra deck monsters leaving me with a bit of room, if i'm going to get two cards ripped away that's basically a whole combo i cant use, i could do what @tempestFox3 said and run 3x but that would basically leave me with around 4 to 5 slots of free card space to play with and at that point why even play the deck if i cant add my own flair to it not to mention salamangreat extra deck monsters are not that good on their own.

@Ghost X its not about its ranking its about a single card that is at three and cost nothing to summon, splashable and can (by itself) stomp out decks, i know cards like alba zoa are out there but at least they are still playable when sent to the gy/bz and requires steps to get it on field. i don't have a problem with the rest of the kashtira archetype.

Now that you mentioned Alba Zoa, this card is even more broken than kashtira unicorn because it takes away half of your extra deck...

[Tempest Fox3]

Originally posted by fox5:

tbh i took a long break from yugioh specifically master duel before master ranking was out i think dpe and branded darklord was just starting to take off, so i wasn't around for the kashtira release having only returned at the start of this ranking season so i have no idea how good kash is if untouched by the ban list or how the rogue worked around it.
what i do know is that unicron needs an arata or something its too hard of a counter to extra deck reliant decks anybody who"s played salamangreat can tell you that you need at least 2x copies of your salamen extra deck monsters leaving me with a bit of room, if i'm going to get two cards ripped away that's basically a whole combo i cant use, i could do what @tempestFox3 said and run 3x but that would basically leave me with around 4 to 5 slots of free card space to play with and at that point why even play the deck if i cant add my own flair to it not to mention salamangreat extra deck monsters are not that good on their own.

@Ghost X its not about its ranking its about a single card that is at three and cost nothing to summon, splashable and can (by itself) stomp out decks, i know cards like alba zoa are out there but at least they are still playable when sent to the gy/bz and requires steps to get it on field. i don't have a problem with the rest of the kashtira archetype.

Full power Kash's main gimmick is zone blocking via Mindhacker & Shangira. It has never really been full power in Master duel, It was pre-Hit with mindhacker outright banned and Field spell at 1 and Fenrir at 2 on release and since had additional hits of fenrir to 1 because every deck was playing Fenrir at 2 because it could search itself and was a free summon at the turn start that pressured your opponent if they activated any monster effects and Birth to 1 which hurts their consistency and recursion.

Kashira as a full deck archetype hasn't really had any impact on the meta of Master duel, it was popular for a bit after it first came out then fell off, It's being played more often now because it has a very favourable matchup against Snake eyes and other grave yard reliant decks.