Bye Bye Ash Blossom

[Rameol]

Asides from stopping Maxx "C" the card is useless nowadays, and even at that, it is not consistent considering everyone also pack Called by the Grave. Most players know better than to just rely on one strategy that can be stopped by Ash, so they either fish it or simply do not care like I do and go for the backup plan. Most deck can always play around it, so it ends up nothing but a waste of space, so goodbye, Ash Blossom

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by DeMoNFoX:

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2IDBYQOivn/?igsh=MXF0b2VwZjllbWFmOQ==

That's a 1st place Adventure Horus Orcust list from a regional, and unless I'm completely blind, I don't see Ash on that list.

Ash will still see some play, but it will be around the same level as Imperm, if not lower, because Imperm is more versatile than Ash.

Just mentioning one top doesn't mean much .I can't find a relatable way to see what's the use rate of ash,but ash is a lot more versatile than infinite IMO.

You can chain block Ash, but you can't chain block Imperm.

Also, while every deck uses some form of search/summon from deck, etc, every deck also uses monster effects.

Lastly, top deck Ash for turn after the opponent made a board is gonna be pretty useless, but top deck Imperm is a whole different story as it can still be used.

[Raven]

This topic aged like rancid milk

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Raven:

This topic aged like rancid milk

I mean, it isn't even aging here. Unless and until Maxx "C" gets banned, every deck that dies to it will have to run Ash to minimize the chance of it resolving and every deck that doesn't die to it will get banned out of existence so that the roach can stay. Nothing has changed about any of this since long before Master Duel even existed and OCG players have by now lost hope that anything ever will.

[Raven]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Raven:

This topic aged like rancid milk

I mean, it isn't even aging here. Unless and until Maxx "C" gets banned, every deck that dies to it will have to run Ash to minimize the chance of it resolving and every deck that doesn't die to it will get banned out of existence so that the roach can stay. Nothing has changed about any of this since long before Master Duel even existed and OCG players have by now lost hope that anything ever will.

That's why I said "rancid milk" it was already like this in the first place, it just went from "ew, this is bad" to the event going "HEY LOOK! LOOK HOW BAD THIS IS!!!!"

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Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Raven:

This topic aged like rancid milk

I mean, it isn't even aging here. Unless and until Maxx "C" gets banned, every deck that dies to it will have to run Ash to minimize the chance of it resolving and every deck that doesn't die to it will get banned out of existence so that the roach can stay. Nothing has changed about any of this since long before Master Duel even existed and OCG players have by now lost hope that anything ever will.

They'd sooner ban Little D than Maxx "C".

[DeMoNFoX]

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

Originally posted by DeMoNFoX:

Just mentioning one top doesn't mean much .I can't find a relatable way to see what's the use rate of ash,but ash is a lot more versatile than infinite IMO.

You can chain block Ash, but you can't chain block Imperm.

Also, while every deck uses some form of search/summon from deck, etc, every deck also uses monster effects.

Lastly, top deck Ash for turn after the opponent made a board is gonna be pretty useless, but top deck Imperm is a whole different story as it can still be used.

negating a monster effect doesn't mean much as long as they have a monster it just denies effects,the monster can still be used for many other play,imper is a good card but ash is just more generic and versatile.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by DeMoNFoX:

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

You can chain block Ash, but you can't chain block Imperm.

Also, while every deck uses some form of search/summon from deck, etc, every deck also uses monster effects.

Lastly, top deck Ash for turn after the opponent made a board is gonna be pretty useless, but top deck Imperm is a whole different story as it can still be used.

negating a monster effect doesn't mean much as long as they have a monster it just denies effects,the monster can still be used for many other play,imper is a good card but ash is just more generic and versatile.

And having a monster on the field can mean little to nothing depending on what deck you're facing.

Hell, look at Swordsoul as an example, you can't really do much with Ash against them unless they quite bricked and need to resolve Ecclesia/Emergence, but toss an Imperm on Mo Ye and it can pretty much spell doom for them if they don't have both a Longyuan and discard fodder. They still have a monster on the board, it does nothing.