Meta decks will always be a thing

[D/D/D]

You start in the solo mode, you progress and you get rewarded with enough gems and materials to build your own deck without the need to spend a penny. Your first encounter will more likely be against a noob, just so you get the hang of it. However, as you progress, you will start facing meta decks, and that is natural. Meta decks are meta because they are really good and very efficient at winning, and you choosing not play them is a regressive mentality. If you wish to keep losing, have at it, but Yu-Gi-Oh! is competitive in nature, so either bend to it or wait for a non-meta event.

[Raven]

Whenever I see topics like this, I feel like people don't understand what meta means...

Meta means the decks you anticipate to encounter the most often, the most popular decks. It's because in theory since you know what you're going to encounter, you plan around tech cards to counter it (you know, META gaming), or even straight up use a deck that's anti-meta (Like META gaming).

It's not about efficiency or how powerful a deck is. Meta could literally be all t4 decks if that's what everyone was going to use. It's just common sense though people use the strongest decks they can. Being strong doesn't make a deck meta, what makes it meta is its usage rate.

[MK]

Originally posted by Raven:

Whenever I see topics like this, I feel like people don't understand what meta means...

Meta means the decks you anticipate to encounter the most often, the most popular decks. It's because in theory since you know what you're going to encounter, you plan around tech cards to counter it (you know, META gaming), or even straight up use a deck that's anti-meta (Like META gaming).

It's not about efficiency or how powerful a deck is. Meta could literally be all t4 decks if that's what everyone was going to use. It's just common sense though people use the strongest decks they can. Being strong doesn't make a deck meta, what makes it meta is its usage rate.

fino señore

[Papa Shekels]

There will never be such a thing as a non-meta event. By definition, a meta always exists and by the nature of this game being competitive, there will always be people actively looking to find it. We've had events in this game where the meta was megalith or ben kei otk. No matter how high or low the power ceiling is, it will always be there.

There is nothing wrong with refusing to play it, and nothing wrong with choosing to play it, but people complaining about a meta as if it isn't an inevitable part of a competitive game are outing themselves as having no clue what they are talking about

[MK]

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[Hell Poet Hero]

of course meta decks will be a thing, when one deck stops being meta, or gets killed, another will become meta because it's most effective

[76561198268162355]

We need an Anti-Crafting Regulation event. Cards you have crafted before are forbidden. Everyone has a different Forbidden List. Even if you dismantle all copies of a card on your Forbidden List and then pull that card from a pack, it still remains on your Forbidden List.

There will be no meta because everyone's card pool is determined by RNG.

[Gauche]

thing will always be a thing

[Raven]

Originally posted by Jeffrey:

We need an Anti-Crafting Regulation event. Cards you have crafted before are forbidden. Everyone has a different Forbidden List. Even if you dismantle all copies of a card on your Forbidden List and then pull that card from a pack, it still remains on your Forbidden List.

There will be no meta because everyone's card pool is determined by RNG.

Wouldn't it just be way easier and make more sense to just make a sealed draft mode? Giving every player a unique banlist is kinda...yeah...

edit: I would honestly love to have master pack sealed tournament, 1000 gem entry, give 12 packs instead of 10.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by gredora:

This King Scarlet YGO skit pretty much shows why "fun decks only" formats never work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAPdHV57t8s

I'm reminded of Commander which was an attempt to do this for MtG back before it was even called Commander. The fact that cEDH is common enough to have a term for it shows how well that went.

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Jeffrey:

We need an Anti-Crafting Regulation event. Cards you have crafted before are forbidden. Everyone has a different Forbidden List. Even if you dismantle all copies of a card on your Forbidden List and then pull that card from a pack, it still remains on your Forbidden List.

There will be no meta because everyone's card pool is determined by RNG.

Wouldn't it just be way easier and make more sense to just make a sealed draft mode? Giving every player a unique banlist is kinda...yeah...

edit: I would honestly love to have master pack sealed tournament, 1000 gem entry, give 12 packs instead of 10.

Raven this guy is obsessed his non crafting challenge is all hes ever on about pretty much vanishes after the duelist cup is gone

Originally posted by Jeffrey:

We need an Anti-Crafting Regulation event. Cards you have crafted before are forbidden. Everyone has a different Forbidden List. Even if you dismantle all copies of a card on your Forbidden List and then pull that card from a pack, it still remains on your Forbidden List.

There will be no meta because everyone's card pool is determined by RNG.

No we don't you are the only one who cares about this and what you ask is functionally impossible to manage to put it simply as possible.

There would infact be a meta it would just be what packs are best to go into just like you started this thing with floo a low rarity archetype from a selection pack its absolutely ideal for this challenge of yours a meta if you would infact that would most likely be the result archetypes from mid to low rarity from selection packs because they are easier to pull.

[Raven]

Originally posted by TormentedSalad:

Raven this guy is obsessed his non crafting challenge is all hes ever on about pretty much vanishes after the duelist cup is gone

Man...I'm too old to know what is trolling and serious and everything else on this board... Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by Raven:

Man...I'm too old to know what is trolling and serious and everything else on this board... Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it

Not even sure if this would constitute trolling, more of a...one-dimensional obsession

[76561198268162355]

Originally posted by TormentedSalad:

There would infact be a meta it would just be what packs are best to go into just like you started this thing with floo a low rarity archetype from a selection pack its absolutely ideal for this challenge of yours a meta if you would infact that would most likely be the result archetypes from mid to low rarity from selection packs because they are easier to pull.

I'm playing Mikanko now (the deck that Raven also plays). But you're right that there will probably be a "best secret pack" to go for, and it'll probably be Rikka Sunavalon, which will no longer have to worry about playing under Maxx "C." Swordsoul is another deck that could become popular because it recently got a Secret Pack.

[Astrallight]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

There will never be such a thing as a non-meta event.

No but the meta decks you would face are at much lower power then whatever tier 1 decks we got now that just auto wins cause of powercreep. VS is pretty much a deck that shows what happens when card creators craft a deck that does almost everything and has nearly no weakness. Lab handripping two cards within 2 rounds and then search D-Barrier with Lady. Branded now got new puppet lock.

People will get tired of this. People want a format where its not just floodgates and the usual 5 decks that stuns you and tells you you dont get to play.

They already did some great festivals in the past they easy could have keep running but no they want you to get destroyed by meta day after day in ranked and force you to only craft meta decks to have a chance to deal with it.

Also a reason why this game only got 15000 players on average. That says alot. They could easy double or tripple that amount if they actually cared about banning OP blowout cards and easy to use floodgates including banning Max C.

Originally posted by Jeffrey:

We need an Anti-Crafting Regulation event.

No we dont. Then it would just be whoever are lucky to pull the best cards that wins. Just because you are obsessed with your non-craft challange you could just stick to your Twitter profile instead of bragging about it here non-stop does not mean we need one.

[eastwoodadam]

People want to win so they will use the best decks possible at the time to increase there chances of success, i'm not really sure how you make the game less meta as you say because look at the amount of cards in the game now that can flood the field. Perhaps a PVP mode that only uses cards up to a certain era perhaps but it's very unlikely to get put in place.