What counts as "Slow Play"?

[Kane526]

I just reported a Kashtira player with lethal, an Arise-Heart, 3 Shangs, and had blocked off all my back row and some of my front row. I didn't have anything but i still wanted duel pass points so I just immediately ended my turn. He played a bunch of cards and then instead of killing me with my 100 life points left (he intentionally didn't finish me off last turn either) just immediately went to End Phase. So I reported him for Slow Play. Does that count?

[Kane526]

Escrito originalmente por HeraldOfOpera:

Escrito originalmente por Konachibi:

If a player has lethal on board, knows you have no interaction to counter him winning, but chooses to either drag out the game, either by ending his turn or doing a long combo to put more stuff on the field and potentially destroy any face-up spells, traps or monsters on your field even though they do nothing, then it is considered slow play, as listed in the rules:

• Duelists are expected to play at a reasonable speed, regardless of the complexity of the game situation, and should not waste time.

Not taking the win as soon as you both know they have it is wasting time, and therefore counts.
The exception would be if you have a face-down card on the field, as it could potentially be a board wipe, magical cylinder, or something that stops him from getting the win, at which point, them doing a combo that allows them to destroy that card just for safety is not slow play.

Similarly, any card in hand can be eg. Battle Fader. Getting a negate on board for that is just common sense.

Ya, but in this case it definitely wasn't that. They ignored going for lethal to instead summon 3 Shangris and locked my zones. They also knew what I had in hand, because they were card ripping me too. He was just being a ♥♥♥♥. The second he summoned his third Shangri then immediately hit End Phase when he could have killed me two turns ago, I knew he wasn't being cautious, he was being a jerk.

[¿¡Kloey!?²]

Escrito originalmente por Kane526:

I knew he wasn't being cautious, he was being a jerk.

Honestly it's this particular reason why I forfeit when I know the game is lost. As much as I want to sit through my opponent doing a victory lap around me, I forfeit as a courtesy to both our time. Unless it was just a really good duel then go ahead and swing for game, just don't go doing another combo when you know I don't got jack lmfao.

[Papa Shekels]

Escrito originalmente por ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Honestly it's this particular reason why I forfeit when I know the game is lost. As much as I want to sit through my opponent doing a victory lap around me, I forfeit as a courtesy to both our time. Unless it was just a really good duel then go ahead and swing for game, just don't go doing another combo when you know I don't got jack lmfao.

It's a really weird scenario because on the one hand, you're not entitled to getting your dailies granted to you by your generous opponent. On the other hand, you're not entitled to your opponent being a punching bag or toy to mess around with after the game has concluded. That is why konami has unsportsmanlike conduct rules in place, to draw a direct line in what would otherwise be a gray area, but in this game (where the rules come up more blatantly than in paper play when you don't really have anything to lose by scooping a finished game), they are very picky in how and whether they want to actually enforce any of it

[Astrallight]

Escrito originalmente por Papa Shekels:

Escrito originalmente por ¿¡Kloey!?²:

Honestly it's this particular reason why I forfeit when I know the game is lost. As much as I want to sit through my opponent doing a victory lap around me, I forfeit as a courtesy to both our time. Unless it was just a really good duel then go ahead and swing for game, just don't go doing another combo when you know I don't got jack lmfao.

It's a really weird scenario because on the one hand, you're not entitled to getting your dailies granted to you by your generous opponent. On the other hand, you're not entitled to your opponent being a punching bag or toy to mess around with after the game has concluded. That is why konami has unsportsmanlike conduct rules in place, to draw a direct line in what would otherwise be a gray area, but in this game (where the rules come up more blatantly than in paper play when you don't really have anything to lose by scooping a finished game), they are very picky in how and whether they want to actually enforce any of it

Even tho its like that you still see people who will give pity turns for several rounds while keeping you stunned just to satisfie his ego. Thats the problem about MD. This is not the TCG/OCG where you play face to face with a team of judges on your side. This is a computer games where both players are anons and no judges to interfere. Then you get what you see on a daily basis.

Toxic players that refuse to end the game or do irellevant combos just to prolong the game even more way past kill dmg.

And since surrendering the game makes you lose all progress then you just give toxic players a reason to do it.

So as long toxic players does this I encourrage people to report for slow play cause that is the right thing to do after MD standarts. Not what some TCG/OGC rule says cause those rules does not apply to MD unless they add a unsportsman conduct report option.

[Raven]

Escrito originalmente por Astrallight:

Even tho its like that you still see people who will give pity turns for several rounds while keeping you stunned just to satisfie his ego. Thats the problem about MD. This is not the TCG/OCG where you play face to face with a team of judges on your side. This is a computer games where both players are anons and no judges to interfere. Then you get what you see on a daily basis.

Toxic players that refuse to end the game or do irellevant combos just to prolong the game even more way past kill dmg.

And since surrendering the game makes you lose all progress then you just give toxic players a reason to do it.

So as long toxic players does this I encourrage people to report for slow play cause that is the right thing to do after MD standarts. Not what some TCG/OGC rule says cause those rules does not apply to MD unless they add a unsportsman conduct report option.

Just a reminder, I was stating that a lot of cases like described by the OP qualify for cheating by konami's regulations, and warrants a more severe penalty

[Papa Shekels]

Escrito originalmente por Astrallight:

This is a computer games where both players are anons and no judges to interfere. Then you get what you see on a daily basis.

I wouldn't say on a daily basis. I see this once every like 2-5 weeks. I just go a full month forgetting that there even is a report function and then one day I find a reason to use it

[Vento]

i reported a guy yesterday he basically had no plays on the field, no cards left in hand, no effects in gy and he couldn't activate the 2 he just set and stood there like a bozo for 40 seconds