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gredora 2023 年 10 月 24 日 下午 3:16
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Kane526 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 7:18 
引用自 STAW PRATENUM
Master Duel's shuffle algorithm is fine, or if it's not fine it's only not fine in so far as a computer program can never achieve 100% perfect randomness.

If you want to know what a rigged shuffler looks like, go play Magic Arena. I promise, once you see how unbelivably and transparently rigged MTGA's shuffler is you will never complain about the shuffling in Master Duel, Duel Links, or Duelingbook or what-have-you ever again.
I find myself somewhat agreeing with this. The MTGA shuffler is wonky as ♥♥♥♥
HeraldOfOpera 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 7:21 
引用自 STAW PRATENUM
Master Duel's shuffle algorithm is fine, or if it's not fine it's only not fine in so far as a computer program can never achieve 100% perfect randomness.

If you want to know what a rigged shuffler looks like, go play Magic Arena. I promise, once you see how unbelivably and transparently rigged MTGA's shuffler is you will never complain about the shuffling in Master Duel, Duel Links, or Duelingbook or what-have-you ever again.
It's my understanding that it's effectively rigged in your favor, with a secret mulligan to reduce the number of non-games. People who know about this and account for it in their deckbuilding are the ones with an unfair advantage, not people who pay money.
Kane526 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 7:24 
引用自 HeraldOfOpera
引用自 STAW PRATENUM
Master Duel's shuffle algorithm is fine, or if it's not fine it's only not fine in so far as a computer program can never achieve 100% perfect randomness.

If you want to know what a rigged shuffler looks like, go play Magic Arena. I promise, once you see how unbelivably and transparently rigged MTGA's shuffler is you will never complain about the shuffling in Master Duel, Duel Links, or Duelingbook or what-have-you ever again.
It's my understanding that it's effectively rigged in your favor, with a secret mulligan to reduce the number of non-games. People who know about this and account for it in their deckbuilding are the ones with an unfair advantage, not people who pay money.
If this was true then why did I once draw 3 Ash, Despian Tragedy, and Branded Retribution. Boom, this one case is surely not an outlier and totally dismantles your entire theory :DSTskull:
The New Crusader 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 7:35 
引用自 HeraldOfOpera
引用自 STAW PRATENUM
Master Duel's shuffle algorithm is fine, or if it's not fine it's only not fine in so far as a computer program can never achieve 100% perfect randomness.

If you want to know what a rigged shuffler looks like, go play Magic Arena. I promise, once you see how unbelivably and transparently rigged MTGA's shuffler is you will never complain about the shuffling in Master Duel, Duel Links, or Duelingbook or what-have-you ever again.
It's my understanding that it's effectively rigged in your favor, with a secret mulligan to reduce the number of non-games. People who know about this and account for it in their deckbuilding are the ones with an unfair advantage, not people who pay money.

I shouldn't say "rigged". I should more say "Not adequately representing true randomness". In addition to the whole mana-weaving nonsense, the shuffler also has a tendency to group cards together. If you draw two or more copies of the same card in your opening hand, you're significantly more likely to draw the other copies in your deck, which is how you get nightmare scenarios of people drawing 9 lands in a row.

Though the mechanism by which this quirk of the shuffler works as well as the fact that Wizards refuses to fix it lends credibility to the idea that Wizards sees it as a feature not a bug. Whenever it checks to see how many copies of a card are left in your deck, it doesn't count the copies in your hand as being outside of your deck. So if you run 4 Mystic Elves and you have one in your hand, the game thinks you have 4 left in your deck instead of three in your deck. This is a very easy problem to fix, and not a mistake any professional programmer would realistically make.
Terminal Desolation 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 11:25 
how do you have any evidence the people opening "god hands" have paid money, let alone could be qualified as "whales"? other than the fact that they opened better hands/are playing better cards, of course lmao
¿¡Kloey!?² 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 11:33 
引用自 gredora
no bro, it's the whales. youre blind if you dont see that the "god hands" only happen to whales.
https://youtu.be/r7l0Rq9E8MY?si=_EgZzN1JPsGroAue
Pastor Shotty McBangJump 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 11:34 
I really don’t understand how you keep getting away with these, you need to teach me your ways.
SadPlatty© 2023 年 10 月 26 日 下午 12:11 
Wanted to appreciate this thread, but...
引用自 gredora
there is proof that this game rigs your hands. there is special coding with the cards you get with gems you got with real money.
immediately followed by
引用自 gredora
how do you think the whales always have "the god hands?"

That really ruins it for me. Whales buy numerous things or spend more than your average consumer, not just 4 cards to make sure they get the same opener each time; otherwise if you bought all the cards, the code is exactly the same as one who bought no cards :moneybagsbear:

Edit : though it certainly was clever
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HeraldOfOpera 2023 年 10 月 27 日 上午 8:34 
引用自 Kane526
引用自 HeraldOfOpera
It's my understanding that it's effectively rigged in your favor, with a secret mulligan to reduce the number of non-games. People who know about this and account for it in their deckbuilding are the ones with an unfair advantage, not people who pay money.
If this was true then why did I once draw 3 Ash, Despian Tragedy, and Branded Retribution. Boom, this one case is surely not an outlier and totally dismantles your entire theory :DSTskull:
I was talking about MTGA, not Master Duel. Konami isn't competent enough to rig the game in their favor.
SadPlatty© 2023 年 10 月 27 日 上午 8:52 
引用自 HeraldOfOpera
引用自 Kane526
If this was true then why did I once draw 3 Ash, Despian Tragedy, and Branded Retribution. Boom, this one case is surely not an outlier and totally dismantles your entire theory :DSTskull:
I was talking about MTGA, not Master Duel. Konami isn't competent enough to rig the game in their favor.

Especially as they couldn't do it properly without effectively enabling some light "cheating".

Basing it off card type would mean you can run 1 trap/spell to open with it every game, or if you are like me and have decks with almost no actual monsters, you could easily assure you get Eldlich every game by just running 2 or 3 of him, and nothing else. Same thing then with basing it off level of the card, or tuner vs non-tuner.

MtGA can get away with it since they draw 2 hands in the background and give you the one with more lands I believe, which are far less consequential. However - that may not be what you want if your curve is small (e.g. mono red goblins)
Beto Stark 2023 年 10 月 27 日 上午 9:00 
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HeraldOfOpera 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 2:46 
引用自 SadPlatty©
引用自 HeraldOfOpera
I was talking about MTGA, not Master Duel. Konami isn't competent enough to rig the game in their favor.

Especially as they couldn't do it properly without effectively enabling some light "cheating".

Basing it off card type would mean you can run 1 trap/spell to open with it every game, or if you are like me and have decks with almost no actual monsters, you could easily assure you get Eldlich every game by just running 2 or 3 of him, and nothing else. Same thing then with basing it off level of the card, or tuner vs non-tuner.

MtGA can get away with it since they draw 2 hands in the background and give you the one with more lands I believe, which are far less consequential. However - that may not be what you want if your curve is small (e.g. mono red goblins)
The current theories are that it's based on rarity in MD; URs are more likely to show up in your starting hand because that's where most of your one-card starters, handtraps and board breakers are concentrated. No idea how much data they actually have, but it'd be a good heuristic if true.
Zaebore 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 2:53 
Feel the bait. Sink or swim. If the expose is on the level of some specific tapes, (I leave this to your imagination. I would write it but I feel it's a bit too extreme. . .) I'd really like to know what it is but otherwise I'll just skip leg day.
Darius 2023 年 11 月 7 日 上午 4:10 
we wait
Astrallight 2023 年 11 月 9 日 下午 4:32 
引用自 SadPlatty©
Wanted to appreciate this thread, but...
引用自 gredora
there is proof that this game rigs your hands. there is special coding with the cards you get with gems you got with real money.
immediately followed by
引用自 gredora
how do you think the whales always have "the god hands?"

That really ruins it for me. Whales buy numerous things or spend more than your average consumer, not just 4 cards to make sure they get the same opener each time; otherwise if you bought all the cards, the code is exactly the same as one who bought no cards :moneybagsbear:

Edit : though it certainly was clever

If it truly was like that then all the opponents I just faced now should be granted perfect hands while I brick but I did not. You could say the same to people who post pictures of him having a starting hand full of handtraps and nothing els. Thats just rng in a nuttshell when you run 3x Max C 3x Ash and proerly 3x Nibiru or 3x Evently Matched and then get mad you open a hand with all of them at the same time.

Useing Pot cards just to draw two more pot cards can happen aswell but it dont happen often. OP showing him drawing into two more Pot of D proves nothing. Thats just rng agan.

Stuff like Asian playes always getting perfect hands. Whales always getting perfect hands and shuffle system is rigged towards a specific player is just nonsences that belong on the conspiracy shelf.
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