Master Rank?

[Exvalcore]

WTF, Why This ♥♥♥♥♥ exists is beyond me.
Plat is the New Gold, this is a silly change.

[Kaulu]

My guess is to push newer players and more experienced players a bit further away from one another. Adding in higher ranks will hopefully increase the average rank, and make it more annoying for those who purposefully derank every month to then reclimb every month.

As an example, given the monthly reset, silver is currently full of Tear, Numeron, and other sacky stuff for the moment as the people who purposely deranked are now reranking up. This is annoying for people not playing meta decks, but is crushing for newer players.

IMO, though, I don't think simply adding more ranks is the solution. Unless specific rank threshholds are too bloated. A better solution would be to simply make it so once you enter a new rank bracket, you cannot rank down outside the monthly reset.


~Reading the in game notice and they kinda did this. Will be interesting to see how this changes gold and plat over the next month or two. I may more up to plat to slum about if it actually becomes "the new gold".

[Exvalcore]

This is totally wrong, all they did was bump silver players to gold, gold to plat, plat to diamond, diamond to master, no reward structure has changed they only thing it did was give us 400 extra gems for the extra rank, I won't complain about that.

Your logic would only make sense if gold still derankable & plat was still as hard to rank up in but all they did was shift all the ranks up one lvl along making it easier, gold sitters are now plat sitters.

[Fatality]

I was getting diamond 1 or at least diamond rank each month, but I don't think I will have the patience to go from platinum 5 to master 1. Probably a big waste of time. At least they could have made that master rank like king of games in duel links.... Final rank, but not 5 divisions to get the top rank. To each their I guess.

[Kaulu]

My comment was mostly written before I read the specifics of the changes, hence the last bit stating that they mostly removed derankers from ruining things for newer players each month. Yes, you will instead just have newer players moving up higher before they hit the wall of more experienced players. I don't see how that is a bad thing. It's mostly just a band aid, but it's not a negative thing.

[Merilirem]

The master rank isn't the bad part of this. Its that they completely undermined the increase in ranks by making it impossible to rank down in gold. This means gold is literally worthless so we still only have 3 ranks that count. The whole point of adding more ranks should have been to dilute the pool by allowing weaker players to stay in lower ranks.

They absolutely suck at ranked and competition design. Like its not even funny. Rookie should be the only rank you can't de-rank in. 3 ranks just isn't enough space for all the players. The players in gold who will move to plat are not equal. They just live in the same rank because there is nothing lower.

This is dumb. They need to just let people de-rank from losses.

[Kaulu]

I actually think you should be unable to drop below tier 5 in any rank. While in any rank threshold, you can increase and decrease with wins/losses, but you can't drop down from any rank outside monthly reset. Because I do agree. Being unable to lose progress in gold will just mean eventually people get pushed into plat.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

This is dumb. They need to just let people de-rank from losses.

The rank system is flawed by design.

If they let people derank from losses, they'll just abuse it to get more gems, as in, rank to Gold 1, then derank to Silver or even Bronze to start in Rookie and get more gems.

But when I suggested a change in the system that would make it pointless to intentionally derank by giving the rewards at the end of the season based on whatever rank you currently are, and well, pretty much everyone was against it.

So if people don't want to wait for the rewards a bit, then this system that currently is in the game is the best you can get.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

This is dumb. They need to just let people de-rank from losses.

The rank system is flawed by design.

If they let people derank from losses, they'll just abuse it to get more gems, as in, rank to Gold 1, then derank to Silver or even Bronze to start in Rookie and get more gems.

But when I suggested a change in the system that would make it pointless to intentionally derank by giving the rewards at the end of the season based on whatever rank you currently are, and well, pretty much everyone was against it.

So if people don't want to wait for the rewards a bit, then this system that currently is in the game is the best you can get.

Seems you misunderstood me. The main issue is the inability to de-rank WITHIN the ranks. It doesn't matter too much if someone gets from gold to plot and can't go back to gold. What DOES matter is that people in silver and gold can't stay out of plat unless they lose every game or just don't play enough to rank up. Reaching the next rank shouldn't be a matter of playing enough to accidentally win your way up the ranks. It should be hindered by your losses. That is something they can easily fix as it has nothing to do with the rewards.

[Arkew Von Greffer]

if komoney want ppl to not sit in low rank they just need to do banlist who get more and more heavy the lower rank ppl are. (rookie : all handtraps / negate / floodgate / meta) banned is just one exemple of want they can do for insist ppl to rank up for use more powerfull card.
ppl can now derank to rookie but got fastly their meta deck unplayable bcs rookie banlist.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

The rank system is flawed by design.

If they let people derank from losses, they'll just abuse it to get more gems, as in, rank to Gold 1, then derank to Silver or even Bronze to start in Rookie and get more gems.

But when I suggested a change in the system that would make it pointless to intentionally derank by giving the rewards at the end of the season based on whatever rank you currently are, and well, pretty much everyone was against it.

So if people don't want to wait for the rewards a bit, then this system that currently is in the game is the best you can get.

Seems you misunderstood me. The main issue is the inability to de-rank WITHIN the ranks. It doesn't matter too much if someone gets from gold to plot and can't go back to gold. What DOES matter is that people in silver and gold can't stay out of plat unless they lose every game or just don't play enough to rank up. Reaching the next rank shouldn't be a matter of playing enough to accidentally win your way up the ranks. It should be hindered by your losses. That is something they can easily fix as it has nothing to do with the rewards.

That only happens in Silver iirc, Gold you can derank within the rank.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Seems you misunderstood me. The main issue is the inability to de-rank WITHIN the ranks. It doesn't matter too much if someone gets from gold to plot and can't go back to gold. What DOES matter is that people in silver and gold can't stay out of plat unless they lose every game or just don't play enough to rank up. Reaching the next rank shouldn't be a matter of playing enough to accidentally win your way up the ranks. It should be hindered by your losses. That is something they can easily fix as it has nothing to do with the rewards.

That only happens in Silver iirc, Gold you can derank within the rank.

Didn't see the Master Rank update huh? Didn't read my comment properly either. They just changed it.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

That only happens in Silver iirc, Gold you can derank within the rank.

Didn't see the Master Rank update huh? Didn't read my comment properly either. They just changed it.

No, I haven't opened the game in a while so I didn't knew they changes how stuff works, all I know is that they added an extra rank.