Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

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Lazer Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:21am
Why is Harpies Feather Duster still in this game especially in events?
You dont see me complaining about Backrow removal at all up to this point but with each new stupid banlist and new event its pretty obvious how busted Backrow removal has become like Duster and Lighting storm. Everyone right now is running 3 Evenly matched on top of that for the current event. Yeah super balanced banlist Konami, lets ban all the floodgates for these events but leave Twin Twister, Duster, Red Reboot and Lighting Storm in the game somehow?
Would actually be fair if Skill Drain and other floodgates are allowed in these events so at least both sides get the blowout.

And the thing is there are barley any backrow decks playing currently in this event, the paranoia of floodgates is just idiotic in the YGO community in general when I am looking at these decks. Like whenever I am playing combo decks, I am always cutting the Backrow hate out as much as I can, because in the end of the day the majority of YGO players dont play Trap decks. If I do play hate, i am going for Red Reboot, this card counters one of the most popular handtrap on top of being absolutely busted to Trap decks, thats how less I am worried about floodgates. I mean I wish the majority would play control decks but they dont.

Also its not like I am coming with some kind of obscure backrow deck to be not ''in the spririt of the event''. True Dracos are are Wind, Water as well as Earth, and so are Traptrick and Guru.
Terrible and boring event, biased banlist as always. All these events feel like watered down Ranked that simple punish control decks while allowing some random combo deck to absolutely dominate and sack on everybody. Even in the Anti Spell even they banned all the floodgates and combo decks where on top instead to promote some trap decks.
Last edited by Lazer; Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:27am
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HeraldOfOpera Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:27am 
That's the thing, there are hardly any backrow decks for Duster to destroy so Duster ends up not powerful enough to be banworthy.

Furthermore, Duster is technically part of a WIND archetype which can search it by name and that's not even the only WIND archetype built around being backrow hate.
Yerc2 Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:39am 
Backrow was powercrept hard. And it's not just limited to HFD or LS. Every deck can run generic ED monsters with backrow removal.
Thank goodness the event loaner decks didn't have more backrow removal, like being able to destroy cards each turn.

I personally the Revolution trap card that negates/banishes a card if it's gonna destroy 2 or more cards.

Maybe one day they'll introduce Extra Deck monsters that use spells/traps to get out. Or make Extra Deck spells/traps. To modernise and revitalise backrow decks.
Last edited by Yerc2; Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:42am
Lazer Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:
That's the thing, there are hardly any backrow decks for Duster to destroy so Duster ends up not powerful enough to be banworthy.

Furthermore, Duster is technically part of a WIND archetype which can search it by name and that's not even the only WIND archetype built around being backrow hate.
Harpies cant even search Duster unless your opponent destroy Harpies Feather Storm.

No Harpies Feather Duster is absolutely banworthy at this point with how many floodgates are banned and limited in Master Duel to warrant this card to still exist. Thats not how to balance a game centered around Spells, Monsters and Traps to make something weaker that is allready weak.

This card is always active when you drawing unlike Evenly or Lighting storm. And the thing its hurting other decks too like Skystriker or Scareclaw who arent even trap decks, these decks also cant simple put Solemn Judgment into their decks to counter 1 sacky BS card and other hate. You draw Impern and Called, they get wiped by Duster thats 2 cards out of your opening hand, destroying Spell and Trap cards has way more weight in YGO in general.
Last edited by Lazer; Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:44am
Lazer Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by Yerc2:
Backrow was powercrept hard. And it's not just limited to HFD or LS. Every deck can run generic ED monsters with backrow removal.
Thank goodness the event loaner decks didn't have more backrow removal, like being able to destroy cards each turn.

I personally the Revolution trap card that negates/banishes a card if it's gonna destroy 2 or more cards.

Maybe one day they'll introduce Extra Deck monsters that use spells/traps to get out. Or make Extra Deck spells/traps. To modernise and revitalise backrow decks.
Would be great at this point, you draw cards in your main deck fair and honest and they are gone forever, Meanwhile combo decks have Acid Code Talker, Elf, Knightmare Unicorn and so on at their finger tip. Never was a fan of the ED but would welcome if it would balance the other type of cards at leasts.
Paulodigital777 Apr 25, 2023 @ 6:59am 
Isnt Duster like a anime answer to pendulum summoning? if that is hitted what else will need to go?
JKArtorias Apr 25, 2023 @ 7:15am 
As long as floodgates are legal. Feather Duster will stay.

I'd have no problem if Feather got banned for lets say Heavy Storm if there were no overpowered floodgates.


Originally posted by Lazer:
Would be great at this point, you draw cards in your main deck fair and honest and they are gone forever, Meanwhile combo decks have Acid Code Talker, Elf, Knightmare Unicorn and so on at their finger tip. Never was a fan of the ED but would welcome if it would balance the other type of cards at leasts.
Combo decks also have to worry about Raigeki, Lightning Storm, Evenly Matched, Droplet and DRNM. Not every combo deck can out or play after an Evenly Matched hit.

Edit: Also, why it's legal in events? I honestly think it's because of True Draco and burn strategies being extremely common.
Last edited by JKArtorias; Apr 25, 2023 @ 7:19am
Astrallight Apr 25, 2023 @ 7:38am 
If you hate Duster then you can just further the list and say you want Monster Reborn, Raigeki, and other spell cards that do alot at zero cost banned.

Monster Reborn can target both graves and bring nearly any monster back.
Raigeki is a full board wipe at zero cost unless you can negate it or your monsters lucky enough cant be destroyed by effect cards.
Last edited by Astrallight; Apr 25, 2023 @ 7:41am
HeraldOfOpera Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Astrallight:
If you hate Duster then you can just further the list and say you want Monster Reborn, Raigeki, and other spell cards that do alot at zero cost banned.

Monster Reborn can target both graves and bring nearly any monster back.
Raigeki is a full board wipe at zero cost unless you can negate it or your monsters lucky enough cant be destroyed by effect cards.
Raigeki is outright unlimited because modern decks can negate or otherwise ignore it without exception.

Monster Reborn has been on and off the banlist repeatedly. It'll probably get banned again someday only to then be unbanned years later.
Angel Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:49am 
imagine playing true draco and being mad that opponent drew their one of duster, nobody wants to play against backrow strategies lol
Blank Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:53am 
It should come back to 3, it'll be funny
Honestly, I like what Konami is doing with recent support for control decks such as Labrynth, Traptrix and Altergeist, by making the decks better at being control decks, rather than focusing on floodgates.

They should get rid of stun decks completely and properly support control decks.
ObsidianButterfly Apr 25, 2023 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:
Honestly, I like what Konami is doing with recent support for control decks such as Labrynth, Traptrix and Altergeist, by making the decks better at being control decks, rather than focusing on floodgates.

They should get rid of stun decks completely and properly support control decks.

Altergeist and Traptrix are irrelevant even after their new support and Labrynth is only doing as good as it is (which isn't all that good) because of....you guessed it...SKILL DRAIN.

Backrow decks are not given the ability to keep up with the ridiculous amount of special summon vomit and effect spam. For every one decent trap card, Konami releases an entire set of even more broken monsters and their support cards.

Now, if the decks were given what they actually needed to compete, then I would agree; get rid of all the floodgates. I'm not a fan of using them just as much as anyone is not fan of going against them. However, until that happens, they need to remain.
Originally posted by Nightshade:
Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:
Honestly, I like what Konami is doing with recent support for control decks such as Labrynth, Traptrix and Altergeist, by making the decks better at being control decks, rather than focusing on floodgates.

They should get rid of stun decks completely and properly support control decks.

Altergeist and Traptrix are irrelevant even after their new support and Labrynth is only doing as good as it is (which isn't all that good) because of....you guessed it...SKILL DRAIN.

Backrow decks are not given the ability to keep up with the ridiculous amount of special summon vomit and effect spam. For every one decent trap card, Konami releases an entire set of even more broken monsters and their support cards.

Now, if the decks were given what they actually needed to compete, then I would agree; get rid of all the floodgates. I'm not a fan of using them just as much as anyone is not fan of going against them. However, until that happens, they need to remain.

Traptrix are actually doing stuff irl, and while not winning yet, they got a bunch of tops, hell, a guy got 3rd place with only cards from the structure deck, at a regional.

Altergeist didn't get their support yet, so we'll gotta have to wait and see if it will have any impact.

I was just pointing out how I like the direction they are going with control decks, I'm aware they still need more support.
Last edited by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫; Apr 25, 2023 @ 9:51am
Cinnamoon_dragon Apr 25, 2023 @ 10:04am 
Because Solemn judgment is in the game. Try adding this card to your stun deck - it has saved my ass many many times
76561198954155998 Apr 25, 2023 @ 10:14am 
My gut is that Feather Duster is still legal because it can easily get negated, same goes for stuff like Lightning Storm, Dark Hole or Raigeki
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