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Lazer 2023年3月29日 8時41分
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Top 100 Decks in the Duelist Cup were all heavy combo decks. Worst meta for Trap decks so far.
The proof is out there
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/tournaments/duelist-cup/march-2023/report

Ban IP Masquerena, ban PUNK Amazing dragon, ban Snow, ban Grass, ban Block Dragon, ban Smoke Grenade, ban Mirrorjade, ban Orange Light, ban Red Reboot, ban Verte, limit Runick fountain, tip and ban Hugin. Unlimit Super Poly and D. Shifter, release Garura. Konami what are you doing? Its literally a coin toss meta at this point and the meta is a joke thanks to broken combo decks and their UR staples you all dont want to hit the same way like you do with your Floodgate-phobia and Pot Phobia.

You go second with a trap deck:
-Spright goes with Ip Maquera into Zeroboros banishes all your set cards= lose

-Punk bounces all your set card in the End phase = lose

-Exositser banishes 4 cards in the end phase = lose

-Mathmech sents 3 cards to the GY and other broken Cyberse extra deck monsters like Link Kuribo and Magic Jammer for follow up against trap deck= lose

-Branded pops 2 set cards = almost a loss without Heavenly Prison

-Vritual World or Adamcipator = no hand, or other degeneracy like Naturia negating all traps

-Pendulums = 3+ negation still a brocken combo deck yet it gets random buff by you in a Bo1.

The most wins you actually get against these decks going second is by them bricking not because of a hand trap or a blow up card, they generated so much resources already in the GY and have follow up etc.

Red Reboot sees now more representation in this list than trap decks but Skill Drain and other floodgates are the problem in every banlist?
最近の変更はLazerが行いました; 2023年3月29日 8時52分
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Ghost X の投稿を引用:
Unlimit D. shifter? you are a floo player right?
nah, they should definitely unlimit dimension shifter. multiple decks can play under it including branded despia, thunder dragon, spright, exosister, floo, and more. once tearlaments come out, you'll want it. having it at 3 right now would be nice with all the 60 card pile decks. good against runick as well
最近の変更はEhgk-Zakhariが行いました; 2023年3月29日 13時55分
downplaying floodgates decks in a BO1 format where maxx c is legal is kekw. floodgates are at the best possible state you can have in a yugioh format, not only maxx c is a 3 and those decks literally dont lose to it on the spot, not only is a BO1 and people cant side 3 evenly 3 storm duster and 3 sekka to obliterate game 2 and 3, but master duel system incentivize to scoop immediately so you going first win a match in 25 seconds. so tell me what's the point of playing the game if you literally flip 3 cards most of the games.
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Lol Mirror Jade is one removable every other turn(perfectly balanced) & a hard punish if you clear it from field & can't push for game or negate it/protect your monsters, which is still perfectly balanced.

If you can't beat Mirror Jade then your just not playing a meta deck.
You clearly forgot it has a board wipe effect when it dies. But yea perfecly balanced monster /s

Next time you gonna say 3x tax dragons are balance aswell ?

You mean the exact same board wipe effect AZ has only worse since it only happens in the End Phase?

Wanna start complaining about AZ aswell?
最近の変更はTunnel Sharks Rule!!!が行いました; 2023年3月29日 13時56分
Astrallight の投稿を引用:
Exvalcore の投稿を引用:
Lol Mirror Jade is one removable every other turn(perfectly balanced) & a hard punish if you clear it from field & can't push for game or negate it/protect your monsters, which is still perfectly balanced.

If you can't beat Mirror Jade then your just not playing a meta deck.
You clearly forgot it has a board wipe effect when it dies. But yea perfecly balanced monster /s

Next time you gonna say 3x tax dragons are balance aswell ?
3 tax dragons is balanced. getting 3 on turn one is quite rare. plus one of the reasons that branded is good is that it doesnt play into nibiru but summoning 3 tax dragons definitely would. you'll definitely stay in gold, which you should be happy about
Astralight? you blind, the monster board wipe is the hard punish if you remove Mirror Jade from field that needs to be protected from/negated as said above, which I said is balanced even Starving Venom Dragon has that same style of effect.

Tax Dragon 2x is balanced enough I've seen many duelist playthru it, I would run 3 but actually being able to summon 3 is extremely hard & not worth the trouble when a branded fusion monster offers semi protection with tribrigade merc, I'd rather force them to survive a negate than tax a third time basically the same concept, they can only play 6 cards with double tax. 12x6=7200(less if you can burn them somehow like (Contract With Don Thousand), the only advantage a 3rd gives is if they can negate/run one over in battle then the remain 2 taxmen still gets them.

18x4=7200, if they don't have the out with 4 moves then they likely didn't with 6 moves.
I always try to setup two taxmen if possible(while still getting albion to gy to set)vs a dumb mirrorjade unless I have tri.merc in hand.

At the end of the Day Tax Dragons only work as a going first option, they can't help clear setup boards so they remain balanced & it boils down to the Coin Flip much like all the other top meta decks, unless the duel is super even lifepts are already low & one taxman can get the win which is why I like having it as a option against really annoying decks.
My Branded Deck does play into Nibiru, simply because I opt to go the Instant Fusion Route into Branded Fusion vs the normal route.

If you draw instant fusion or draw Dragon Keeper to pull instant fusion from deck you can go into lv5 predap fusion to add a plant to hand & tribute for the poly/fusion search from deck to add branded or superpoly, +the plant to hand can be a fusion/pendulum creature to extend further.

Extending is very helpful, but this requires like 4-5 extra plant monsters in your deck which is fine by me as they complement the deck very well, Also hint why I run 2 taxmen instead of 3 got not room for a 3rd in my extra deck because I like diversity.
Garbage 2023年3月29日 14時20分 
Ehgk-Zakhari の投稿を引用:
Garbage の投稿を引用:
So what I'm hearing is that you want a format in where people can just combo off for 20 minutes on their first turn, build 5 omninegate boards, and not let your opponent play that way. Cool.
people want to play cards. nothing skillful or fun about flipping skill drain, rivalry, gozen, there can be only one, etc. "Just draw the out bro xD"
It's the same thing with more steps. Combo players are hypocrites if they think otherwise.
Aldain 2023年3月29日 14時24分 
The 4th and 5th decks on that list are Runick.

So even THAT is a combo deck now?
Exosister is good against graveyards, I lose with my branded deck to it.
Aldain の投稿を引用:
The 4th and 5th decks on that list are Runick.

So even THAT is a combo deck now?

I can't come up with any excuse....sorry, I'm not good at mental gymnastics....
Blank 2023年3月29日 14時58分 
gredora の投稿を引用:
Exosister... combo deck... lmao

It's a midrange deck at best

Clearly you guys don't know what a combo deck is, a combo deck is when you summon anymore than 1 monster in a turn.
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gredora の投稿を引用:
Exosister... combo deck... lmao

It's a midrange deck at best

Clearly you guys don't know what a combo deck is, a combo deck is when you summon anymore than 1 monster in a turn.

I thought it was when you use broken combos like Celtic Guardian + Moon Mirror Shield. That's unbeatable.
Aldain 2023年3月29日 15時01分 
Blank の投稿を引用:
gredora の投稿を引用:
Exosister... combo deck... lmao

It's a midrange deck at best

Clearly you guys don't know what a combo deck is, a combo deck is when you summon anymore than 1 monster in a turn.
Huh, didn't know Elementsabers were a combo deck, neat.

Then again they're not even really a deck in the first place.
I can't really call a deck combo unless it extends outside it's archetype.
It's always interesting to see how wrong projections are versus the actual data. The subreddit whined pretty consistently that floodgates-centric decks were dominating, and lo and behold out of the 44 decks currently listed in the link, there are only 3. That said, 2/10 of the top decks are floodgate-centric, so I wouldn't be surprised if we see something like Skill Drain and TCBOO limited. I could also see Fountain and/or Runick Tip being semi-limited, or Hugin limited as well.

From the looks of things, Grass Ishizu Branded and variations of Spright are the most frequent placeholders. This *probably* means Branded hits, and you could say "but it's Grass and Ishizu which are the problem cards" which is *true*, but at the same time, neither Ishizu Adams nor Ishizu Chaos placed. Given Ishizu is probably too new, I'd expect Grass to be limited and a few hits to Branded, depending on what conclusions they draw from the data.

As for Spright? I dunno. It also feels somewhat too new, but I could definitely see Elf limited. We'll have to see.
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